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Dabulls23 thumbnail
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Posted: 14 years ago
#41
DT
Many many members depend on the detailed updates every day...Bhalla was handed this baton by tanya herself looong time ago...Bhalla has been doing a fabulous job all this time...Its not fair to read people dont care for detail updates and are more than fine with Brief updates as they dont watch the show.. or they dont care to watch the show for many reasons...IE show is gone bad or Sushant has left ETC..
I strongly support bhalla's well deserved promotion as coolbie and it is only fair to his hard work that he continues doing daily detailed updates...It defeats & undermines his hard work when members support Brief update...Duplicate info IMHO
Pls pls do not give me excuse that he does his updates late...He has been doing the same all along...No time I ever saw a post or topic someone asking where is the update...He has always notified members if he would be late due to exams or other...He has been more than professional in keeping members posted...
Its not because Bhalla is doing the updates. it would be unfair any other member who had been doing it for so long...So nothing against Tanya or in support of Bhalla per say...It is the right thing to do..
It is sooo sad to see poor Bhalla cant even enjoy or appreciate his recognition after giving so many months of personal free time in doing fab job...😳
Edited by Dabulls23 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: devashree_h

Coolbie- A person who regularly does written updates. Which bhalla did for so many months. It is not an easy task. He deserves recognition for that. He has his opinions but he is never disrespectful to anyone. Ask anyone on the forum. Why should his contribution be ignored?

Hi Devu,
@bold...I'm asking this question as I'm not familiar with the inner workings of this forum, and with the utmost of respect to you and the other members of the DT.
If one is promoted to a Coolbie because they regularly do written updates, why wasn't Tanya promoted to a Coolbie when she regularly did written updates for a long time, up to some months ago? Also, does becoming a Coolbie mean automatic promotion to the DT?
I don't know if being a Rockerz is a higher position than a Coolbie, and because Tanya was already a Rockerz when she was doing the long updates, why she wasn't made a Coolbie.
I'm not assuming anything here. Am awaiting your response, and as I said at the outset, I'm asking merely out of curiosity and am not speaking on behalf of anyone or seeking anyone's interest. Just want to know a little more about how the forum works.
Thanks in advance.
Dabulls23 thumbnail
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Posted: 14 years ago
#43
Before any member becomes viewbie, coolbie, moderator or channel moderator they are member first...They hav right to write their views as long as they are respectful...I agree with Devu and Sherma's post in support..
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Posted: 14 years ago
#44
Actually even I wanted to clear, thanks that you asked. A person who does written updates should be pretty regular over a long period of time. We had considered Tanya Di's name for coolbie but it so happened that when we were supposed to forward her name for promotion, we got her message that she could not do written updates any longer due to some personal reasons. Even Bhalla had to wait a very long time before this status was given to him.
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Posted: 14 years ago
#45
DT,
Varsha has expressed the view that it is unfair to read that people don't care for detailed updates, that they are fine with brief updates as they no longer watch the show for various reasons (story gone bad, or Sushant left).
How can this be unfair? Just as some members love the detailed updates, some will love the brief updates as well. Aren't we also allowed to have our preferences. I am one of those members who said I prefer the brief updates due to the state of the storylines now, and also said I no longer watch the show because of these same stroylines.
When I said I prefer the brief updates, I also said that the longer version should remain, to accomodate those who still want it. You can check with Bhalla, who will tell you that I've always praised his level of work and commisserated with him with having to watch the sad episodes in order to do the updates. (here I will say that these days, the episodes are getting better).
Even Bhalla himself has said he does NOT feel neglected with having the brief update.. He and Tanya agreed to keep both. So why should others try to make it look as if those who don't read Bhalla's updates are somehow wrong and doing an injustice to him, when he doesn't have a problem with it?
This forum is for all members, and not everyone will agree about everything. This was a solution arrived at with the consent of the DT, so why is this now a problem?
I don't have a problem with Bhalla's promotion given the reason behind it. That does not mean I have to read his updates to show him support. I should be free to read what suits my situation. I had explained that reading the detailed upates were becoming a chore for me, making me upset or angry with the way the CV's were dealing with the tracks. So if the shorter updates made me happier and more relaxed, what is wrong with that?
Though I no longer watch the snow, I still have some interest in it. I have watched it from the first episode, so I am still curious to see what happens in the show...how they dealt with the latest leap, how they will deal with Archana's and Manav's situation now, what will be the outcome with Ovi and Teju re Archana, etc.
For me, it's like having closure to see the show to it's conclusion, whenever that is. However, all this does not mean that I want to read the long updates. Bhalla and I still chat with one another and exchange the occasional post, so there's no problem there.
I hope all views and wishes will continue to be accomodated on this forum, an much as is possible.
Thanks, DT.
suan thumbnail
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Posted: 14 years ago
#46
Thanks so much Jaz, and a special thanks for the very prompt reply.😊
Yes, you helped alot. I'm always of the view that if one doesn't know something or doesn't understand, then ask. If, like in this case, the questions are answered, then that person is wiser for having asked. If they don't get a response, then at least they asked.
Jaz, I will take you up on your offer about other questions.
I've always wondered what sticky and unsticky means. Sometimes someone speaks about a thread being made sticky or unsticky. Exactly what does this mean?
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Posted: 14 years ago
#47
I dont know why the issue of BU and WU came up again...its been settled and put to rest...everyone expressed their views on the thread that was created a few weeks ago...we (the DT) discussed many options with both Bhalla and Tanyaz...we came to the decission that both would continue since Bhalla doesnt have any problems with Tanyaz's BU's...the matter is done with...and please...dont single out members for their opinions and what they've said in the past...lets put the issue to rest...both Tanyaz and Bhalla will continue to do their threads daily
PR Dev Team
jnawaz thumbnail
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Posted: 14 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: suan

Jaz, I will take you up on your offer about other questions.
I've always wondered what sticky and unsticky means. Sometimes someone speaks about a thread being made sticky or unsticky. Exactly what does this mean?

if you notice on pg one of the forum...first we have global announcements which are also on the homepage of IF...then comes teh PR Forum Announcements...where the Help Desk, Creations Gallery etc are...then...you get to the PR forum topics...the sticky topics are the important ones or most popular ones...like Written Updates, EDT, GOTW, DOTW etc...they are made sticky so that they dont get lost on a different page because members usually look for them...for example...lets take a WU...Bhalla does the update...people dont comment so it goes back to pg 4 or 5...then when someone comes on they cant find it...by making it a sticky its right there on pg 1 regardless of when the last comment was made...thats why all announcements, changes and even activity threads (ie: Secret Santa) are made stickies...easy access 😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
#49
To the Mods

This is SAD .

Ever since bhalla has got his coolbie status the poor boy has not been even to ENJOY it for a moment in peace . The very day he got it , questions were flung at mods about the fairness of it , about the unfairness shown to Tanya .

In short it was said Bhalla did NOT deserve it though it was added quickly enough that we are not saying bhalla should not get it BUT yada yada yada... HOW is he on DT team , how is he promoted to coolbie status etc .

I wish to point out that when ANYONE does the detailed update daily it entails a lot of hard work and commitment ...and naturally the one doing it expects the credit to the maximum capacity . Its absolutely FAIR to expect this .

When The Brief Update thread suddenly started , a lot of people started reading it , clicking on Like Buttons and going off , thanking Tanya . In short a lot of credit went to Tanya for comparatively little work . Here I am not criticizing Tanya ...I am merely pointing out that she was doing her job ...giving a BRIEF update . And the like button clicks on the Detailed Updates decreased . I still remember one day there were literally 5 members only who had clicked on the like button on Bhalla's update .

Later it got evened out as many started finding it unfair to him . But it would be fair to say that the credit got DIVIDED . And bhalla , being the gentleman that he is , he did NOT MIND .

Some members pointed this out . When DT team and Tanya talked to him , bhalla did not object . But that was HIS decency . 90 % of the people who would have done the detailed update afer coming home tired from school WOULD have minded . TERRIBLY too . I know I would have .

That decency allowed the Brief Update to continue ...bhalla made no points about how his hard work got dwindled credit , nor did he question the NECESSITY of the Brief update by pointing out that if collecting a group on it was the purpose of starting it as clearly some were saying that going on EDT thread was uncomfortable for them ...if THAT was indeed the purpose , why make Brief Update thread ? Make some OTHER thread !

I am NOT saying THIS was the purpose of the Brief Update thread . I am pointing out that bhalla COULD have said this . He could have said this on the basis that no members gathered in a group on HIS update thread , ever . But they seemed to flock on Tanya's Update thread just like they did during SOTD times .

He made no objections , was pretty decent about the whole thing and made his update diligently , half credit or full credit or no credit and then came on EDT thread in the evenings , did his customary review posts and left . See how he respected the rules ...mods had told that EDT thread is the discussion thread .

For being such a perfect member ...always well behaved , polite who made no issues about anything , what did poor bhalla get ? Questions like HOW has he been made a coolbie ? When there r far more OTHER deserving members ?

No one doubts the deserving capacity of those members ...but they left of their own accord , came back of their own accord ! Meanwhile this guy was quietly and diligently going on doing this job , inspite of a tiring schedule and his ip address being repeatedly hacked due to mischief makers ...he went to other addresses and did updates from there instead of passing the job to others . I know this for a fact .

He generously did not mind the credit thing . His update was more detailed so that expectation should have been there , but bhalla did not expect even THAT .

Such a member is targeted for his 'undeserved' coolbie status with comments like ...he has negative bias and how he deserves to be a coolbie ?

A coolbie cannot have his personal opinion of the show ? He too has to give a view that ONLY the majority will like ?

What kind of petty campaigning for your favorite is this when he has been been exactly the opposite and given you guys your brief update thread without a trace of pettiness ?

If reading the detailed update was a chore for some due to the terrible details and the Brief Update blotted out the unpleasant details , ...did bhalla ever point out that those unpleasant details were thrashed back and forth in the BU thread conversationally anyways ?

Spare him please . Respond to his goodness with what it deserves . No , I am not lawyering for him , I merely state my opinion on this . Had I been in his place I would have been very sad .

No offense to anyone . I fully support his coolbie status . And I request Mods to still pay attention to the credit ...it should go fairly to the one who puts in hard work .





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Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@kooldi:fab post,i agree to ur each and every point,its really sad,bhalla truely deserve the coolbie status

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