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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Polki_Zofi

@Hope:

😳🤗Hej Hope 😊, yes it has been long. Few recent weeks were nothing less than a different planet experience 😃. The wedding of my sister in law, along with preceding ceremonies and post marriage receptions occurred. A full fledged Indian marriage with big drums and big gifts and big feasts 😆, nothing could be small 😊. I cannot describe it back in Poland to my cousins and my friend, I wonder if they will ever believe and not discount thinking it is exaggeration 😆. But I guess you will know what I mean ... 😉

It all continued for 2 months, everything we did it had something to do with the marriage. In this time I personally had lots of blessings, thanks to kools too, she gave me 2 remarkable tips in life which I cannot forget 😊, and they worked.

About surrogacy, it is definitely a very tough choice, but I guess it is better still when the topic of adoption comes. I know some of our friends here must be having a different story they came across 😊, but I saw it very near as a member of the Catholic Girl's Group 😊.

We had trainings before being posted with a fixed duty (as volunteers). I had some close experience on the "things behind the scene" of adoption. It is never easy with the child who is to be adopted, and it is always a very complex thing. A blond little girl running around looks like a doll 😊, but she had more in her than just her present presentation. A human child is not only about the short term experience. It has a whole different psychological framework. The parents need to align themselves with it, and so must the child. However, more often than not, atleast one party fails to do it properly, and in such relationships the smallest of errors keep growing with time and take various challenging shapes. It is too detailed to explain in a post, it is about experience, training and formal education on how to handle such children and also the elderly.

Bottom line I can say is that it does not always work, and it is not about just some months or years, but an entire life of relationship. Many people look at the "attachment" part, but there is a very real "detachment" part too. This is not easy to explain even, which makes it more difficult.

The particular Church and the administration believed in charity and infrastructure for the Orphans more than adoption. Do you know the current laws of Poland and neighboring Countries on adoption? It is becoming more strict.

It is true that my knowledge of India is limited. But I think children are similar everywhere, because they are innocent and growing. So I could input 😊

If you think I made errors 😳, then it can be 😉😃, but I did communicate 😉 😳. These is a offpeak week you can say 😎, not much to do. Relaxing, but go to shop tomorrow to buy some cloth and a movie called "Mother India" (as suggested to me by kool here). Also, a few books 😊. I love books, and it seems they are available and not so expensive in India 😊.

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OMG I totally missed this post. sorry

so glad u enjoyed the wedding and famly. yes I do understand. your friends will have to see it to believe it.

I don't think you made any errors re adoptive children. the fact is that these children are orphaned or put up for adoption because of some incident in their lives and that incident does have lasting effects. Also, genetical they maybe predispositioned to certain vices or personality traits just like any other child. this is not their fault but when it is one's natural children who behave's erroneously because of influence within one's family or genetic traits, there is a natural tendency to respond without judgement and even justify. this is not the case with adoption.

when the child is your own, there is acceptance of its positive and negative traits because of the blood relationship. when the child is adopted, there are sometimes unrealistic expectations about the child's model behaviour and less tolerance of shortcomings in the long run. especially when the adopted child is not an infant but an older child. I have actually seen this happen in real life.

varsha's child in womb was healthy and innocent yet it did not fit in with her plans and so she aborted it.

she may not do so with another natural child (lessons learnt from this one) as Bhavna will watch her like hawk knowing that Satish is not as vocal

but with the adopted child Bhavna will be indifferent and if that child is a problematic one and this is misaligned with Varsha at any stage of her life then what happens to the child?

a child born by a surrogate will still be her and Satish's blood.

archana and manav are better candidates for adoptive parents. they already demonstrate how accepting they are of strangers. Varsha and vaishali do not have the same mindset. Satish by himself is very much like Archana and Manav, however, he makes grave allowances and accomodations where Varsha is concerned.🤗
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Hope--



archana and manav are better candidates for adoptive parents. they already demonstrate how accepting they are of strangers. Varsha and vaishali do not have the same mindset. Satish by himself is very much like Archana and Manav, however, he makes grave allowances and accomodations where Varsha is concerned.🤗

You hit the nail on the head. I agree - however maybe the CVs will make a 180 degree change in Varsha's character, he, he. Not for the first time for sure.😉
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Posted: 14 years ago
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For those who are visiting my thread.

I have posted a salutory thread to Mr. Hazare and his efforts on teh Lokpall Bill

I think this is a landmark one in India and we need to show our support.

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1657761#41267836

I have asked mods to make it a sticky one on the member's lounge

I apologize in advance to the mods of PR forum I know I am probably breaking the rules on PR frum by advertising this here but I think this is important for all Indians so please forgive me this once and allow this post.

To all those reading this:


Can you please support it andlet anyone else that you can know about it. I plan on sending the link to times of India and other major Indian media outlets and even some canadian outlets to let them know about this.

I would really appreciate your support on this one

Thanks a billion

Hope
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Posted: 14 years ago
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the writers never really showed a meaningful conversation between varsha and satish where he voices his grievances and she shows true remorse (before they found out she could not have other kids) - he just said he missed her and took her back and she said she was sorry for the fallout I think. it is almost like they took this really serious and enormous issue and swept it under the figurative carpet. As a viewer I felt that a confrontation before reconciliation was much needed.
He loves her to a fault. I wouldn't be surprised if down the road he starts disliking the decisions he made just to appease her, and starts blaming himself for giving in so many times, because he has had to sacrificed so much for her. I don't want to see him broken...this type of love truly hurts.😳

i keep feeling like Varsha has not done the necessary introspection required with regards to the abortion and now this situation. all her reactions seem very very reactive. makes any step she takes seem very unstable and ill thought out.
This makes me question her willingness to adopt. She has to consider the child's needs not just hers. I don't think she is in a good place emotionally to adopt.

there is still time for them to show a full blown out convo between varsha and satish - a thrashing of all old ills, an assessment of their current status quo and the implications of their next steps
i like the satish varsha relationship. there is more of a tug of war here (quite realistic) and not all hunky dory all the time. they need to exlore this relationship more than vaishu- dharmu which they spent too much time on and is now frankly boring.

yup i would like to see a meaningful discussion on the issue at hand and their previous actions. He needs to make it clear to her that the world does not revolve around her, and that he cannot forgive her mistakes nor can he just accept things lying down. He should have taking some time taking Varsha back, to sort things out for himself so that he doesn't regret forgiven her later on.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Bang on Caspie on your points in blue...I so agree..^^^^^
Hope Satish realizes sooner than later about Varsha...I still Question Varsha's love for Satish..One can see Satish loves her but not the other way around..She may have developed feelings and cares and loves him to some level but not the level which Satish loves her..It has always been an undying compromise, adjustment & wait on Satish's part in this relationship..
Be it for Love, Marriage, Sex, and now a child..Constant adjustment from Satish..
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dabulls23

Bang on Caspie on your points in blue...I so agree..^^^^^

Hope Satish realizes sooner than later about Varsha...I still Question Varsha's love for Satish..One can see Satish loves her but not the other way around..She may have developed feelings and cares and loves him to some level but not the level which Satish loves her..It has always been an undying compromise, adjustment & wait on Satish's part in this relationship..
Be it for Love, Marriage, Sex, and now a child..Constant adjustment from Satish..



His love is the only thing that is binding them. if he ever falls out of love, he will start hating every decision he made and quite possibly her. love is keeping him sedated 😳
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Posted: 14 years ago
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nice post Hope.

Varsha in a fit of rage has aborted, but she wasn't aware of the consequences of her actions till she found of her incapability to be a mother. she is in the process of self forgiveness, that may be the reason of going to orphanage and spending time with the kids.

Bhavana on the other hand has to forgive varsha for her deed. forgiving another person is lot more difficult then forgiving ourselves. spending time with the orphans is her penance right now. after all the options are exhausted , then they can go for adoption.

Satish is a good guy. It would be interesting to watch how varsha and bhava deal with the situation of a child in the house.


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Gosh not sure where this storyline is going now..Showing restricted area with kids who has down syndrome or other condition...
In India they use term "Mentally retarded" for so many condition...Lumping many things together...Wonder if Varsha is going to decide in adopting one of those kids who has some disability or conditions..
CVs yet don't know where to take storyline as far as Varsha or Savita is concerned..Lets see what happens..
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dabulls23

Gosh not sure where this storyline is going now..Showing restricted area with kids who has down syndrome or other condition...

Agree with You Di... Even I did not like the way it was explained about the restricted area.. First when Varsha was going there I remembered Ghajini movie.. Dont know why.. I still feel something fishy 😕
In India they use term "Mentally retarded" for so many condition...Lumping many things together...Wonder if Varsha is going to decide in adopting one of those kids who has some disability or conditions..
She was not ready for normal children till recently and even now I am not sure how capable she is of taking care of a child.. I doubt if she has the patience to take care of such children..
CVs yet don't know where to take storyline as far as Varsha or Savita is concerned..Lets see what happens..
CV's dont know how to handle such sensitive matters.. These are very good tracks if handled well.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Bhavna may be out of line few times but has a heart of gold..She is not a bad MIL..She is after all a human being and a loving mother who wants her son to have a child and wants a grand child..
I had mentioned abt the nice and proper convo Varsha had with Bhavna abt her feelings on Adoption that Bhavna will understand..And I was right..Bhavna did go visit orphanage but visited boys..Atleast she took the first accepting step towards her son-dil's happiness.

Each person takes their own time in dealing with painful-hurtful stuff..Aborting a child w/o husband's consent and than couple hiding such a huge truth abt DIL not be able conceive is hard for mother to take..She needed time..She needed someone to talk to her one on one and help her understand instead of yelling match..
I am proud of Bhavna for taking her first step in right direction..Not sure where this will lead up to but atleast she has shown her class and maturity..
She might be out of line sometimes, imposing, interfering but she is wise and reasonable and understanding..Abv all she is loving, forgiving and knows her son's happiness..

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