Kool Comments : Feb 26 - Page 14

Form pure cinematic POV , Mother's yearning for priority is tightly held script here. I can't resist comparing script here to the One (Mari Zaat Zarra…) I told you about. There, mother was achingly confessing her part to his trusting and unsuspecting son.

" MY son, I've loved you so much….But I don't know, I've loved you more or hated her more." "My son,…Jab tu use dekhta tha to teri ankhon me ek ajeeb si chamak hoti thi. aur wo mera vajood tak jala deti thi….is hasaraat ne mera imaan, insaniyaat, khuni rishte, sab kuchhs jala dala...is hasaraat me main ek Maa se mamuli aurat ban jati thi…kaash me maa raheti aur mamuli aurat na banati…"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3JykkSb7Rs

From 21 ^st Minute.

And a spellbinding finesse to this extraordinary scene… horrified son's slow retreat of his palm from his mother's clasp… and her feeble attempt to hold on to that withdrawing hand- her disintegrating world.. . The leads were just superb, but I've found Mother's portrayal (actress Sameena Parzada) even one notch better then hero.

Relevant to our match, I remember a siting by Commentator…Savita's frustrated yell to Manav during first phase, " Hazun tusi hawaas nahi mitley…"

Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam

Sorry to hear about your SIL Sindoorfan. I guess every household has 1 or 2 people like that, who dont get along with everybody else. And good to hear that your husband and in-laws supported you. This is definitely one of the reasons I feel sorry for Savita and angry with Manav. She has no support- one son is dead, daughter is married and settled in her own family and husband is of no support whatsoever. I dont even consider Damodar in the equation- if a man doesnt support his wife and disrespects her in front of outsiders, even children, he is no husband. Manav knows his home life and I'm guessing Damodar didnt suddenly change after Manav's second marriage, that he was always absentee and didnt respect his wife ever. So telling his aged mother who had freaked out about losing her grandson that she was responsible for losing Sachin and that he was no longer her son is so wrong on so many levels. I understand it was not just due to Savita slapping Archana and was perhaps, anger building from many days; but the lady is still grief-stricken over her son's death and has no other emotional or moral support. Even Archana had her whole family and half of the Deshmukh family supporting her during the initial days. And everybody needs somebody to lean on, whether good or bad. This same Manav had told Archana that his mother had not seen much money in life, thats why she is so interested in her gold. And he cant understand his mother's grief and state of mind now?

The second reason is his relations with Archu's family. Having good relations with in-laws is a very good thing, I want my boyfriend and his family to have very good relations with my family after marriage. He already cares about my sister and cousins so much and that is partly why I love him so much. But in Archana-Manav's case, his in-laws have always treated him badly. Lets forget for a moment about the umpteen times hes has been insulted and jailed himself. But because of Manju, his young unmarried sister and old parents were tortured in jail. That is very bad in any situation, but especially in lower middle class people where a young girls character is tarnished if she goes to jail. And Manav's brother and Damodar's son died due to that jailing, however indirectly. I would be beyond furious with Archus family if I was in Manav's or Damodars place, but Damodar the father who just lost a son and whose daughter was in jail arranged anticipatory bail for Manju so that she didnt even have to visit police station. And Manju had wealth and her mother who was well to do and in Womens association behind her. Oh, and also her husband and in-laws who did not condemn her because she was pregnant. And Manav went shopping with her and saved her butt- the person who was the direct cause of tragedy in his family. She showed no signs of repentance even after she was caught and Manav is cordial with this woman. Is this real in any way? Did he not love Vandu and Sachin as much as he loves Archana then? Still, maybe he is a veryyy good person and forgives everyone easily. Not just forgives, but forgets altogether. No apologies needed from Archus family either. But he will not forgive his old mother who has no support for mistakes, okay sins she committed.

This is height of double standards for me. If you have so much self-respect, behave the same way with your in-laws who have caused you and your family so much harm. But he wants to show his ego to his mother who has no other support? Who has experienced so much grief already? Being a son to your in-laws is commendable, but try being a good son to your own parents first. His hypocrisy and double standards leave a very bad taste in my mouth.

Originally posted by: smrth

Your commentary alerted me to a possibly high voltage Maha (?) drama. Two actors were commendable.

So indeed they (Cvs) precipitated first slap by Savita. Or a second defiance/ check by Archana. Cvs are milking all possible theatrics before they reconcile two characters. For them, it's necessary keep a counter weight set against either of the lead in during their melding process to maintain tension. So Savita, post Shravni, until new strain is developed. Jaywant or Vaishali?... as Savita will be reconciled to Archana? Hoping to be proven wrong for both tracks would be competing in ugliness.

Going by story told, Savita is showing ONLY selfish possessiveness- I, me and myself kind of self preservation and intense jealousy. How else can she feel aggravated at even a harmless revelry among Father, son and SIL? Or The moment of relief. Instead of intense relief, it ensures a jibing hatred. Not even a moment of happiness at receiving the news and a straight forward assault. This reaction bears only one explanation- Jealousy-Grief card does not hold by any logic- however painfully we may try to apply it.

Again, I feel, all these highly illogical (her hatred- Cvs' means for melodrama)-not able to buy 'hatred out of grief'. She had been already reconciled to Archana AFTER that. In so complete a sense that she pronounced her better then Shravani or making a point to ask Manav to accept her back. Her second phase of hatred (and soon to be turned into filial love) derived from elopement had only one valid reason of 'loss'- Little Sachin and NOT Manav. Because, Manav loss was self earned can be undone any moment she chooses (she knows it and she acts on it too). So once she secured Sachin, she had NO fresh reason for grief induced hatred for Archana.

My POV.

Originally posted by: viram

Lovely post as usual Kools. Read it the first thing in the morning yesterday but couldn't write my comments as I had to run after my sons .Their exams start form the 1st of March. The worst part is that they have a gap of 4 days between every exam and they are really going to drive me up the wall. They have endless list of demands like ... 1 hour to play outside (which stretches to two hours) or half an hour of computer games (which again stretches on endlessly) something to munch all the time , fights in between for pens and pencils etc..... Someone rightly said when you become a parent you become more of a referee. 😆😆😆😆 I can imagine . I am DREADING June already [ Here schools close in June]

Manav has once again handled the situation very immaturely. When he knew that his mother was not well, he should not have insulted her this way.Knowing her condition and the situation he could have comforted her and explained the situation later. He didn't even NOTICE the condition

And how stupid of him not to have telephoned his mother or father to say that Sachu is with them.Even a child of 5 knows now a days that he should inform his parents of his whereabouts immediately though mobile. Or better still archu cud have called up damo to inform him. Didn;t phone about Sachu and didn't phone to tell her dONT COOK I AM NOT COMING FOR DINNER

Archu was insensitive (unintentionally though) to say Sachu might have been run over by a car. Savita was right in slapping her as this would have brought the death of her son sachin to her mind. Any mother would have done this. Wont justify the slap but I repeat that slap was not for Archu personally it was for possibility that Sachu may die

Sick of this Batat and Vaishu's track. Now they are going to divert the track to such a point where Manav's integrity will again be questioned. Hope they don't show Archu being J. Can't bear it. Viram if it happens I will be unsympathetic to Manav .

And every one trying to perform a pooja seems so funny.Sulo wants to do one. Marwadin wants to do one for her DIL . Next it will be Bhavna for a grandson. And then Archu as the business has picked up. All this will help the CVs fit in more tamashas into the story line.

BTW I don't understand why Vaishu should hide Batats;' truth from his mother. She isn't asthmatic!!! 😆She needs to know the truth.No right minded girl would ignore such a loving MIL. The way Vaishu left without telling her saas was very bad manners and she was RUDE . I dont have sympathy for her too .

Looks like Bappa has been forgotten. 😊He must be happy now .Must be taking a looooooooong and well deserved break with his parents in the Himalayas. 🤣The juvenile scriptwriter doesnt know about Bappa .He only knows teenage romance .

Originally posted by: Polki_Zofi

Hey! 😊 ... I just read the serious commentary, and Manav laughing 😆😳😉??? ....

Anyways, lets see, I wish to write a little 😎 😊:

Savita is very aggressive isnt it? People can be like that ofcourse, but my curiosity was how did Savita must have behaved with her own in laws? Any guesses from her current way of life and attitude? 😳😊Yes she is very aggressive

In our mid/late 20's, 30's and early 40's we have a different thing rushing through our bodies 😆😉, in this time if our parents and we ourselves dont allow each other to evolve into a relationship which might be different from our childhood relationships, then clashes and uncomfortable (often useless) pain surely follows. Yes

Problem is that the dire, brave, passionate and heartfelt emotions which take the woman or the man by storm in these exciting ages are not only natural but very required too. This makes love THAT cherished syrup of astonishment! Makes people go that extra mile. Makes those kisses feel sometimes just a little more than heavenly. You just get lost somewhere with every touch, can't even remember later where you went 😳😃! However, when we cross 40's and the adrenaline calms down, we start forgetting what we went through and expect our children not to react to the FORCES WORKING IN THEM at all times. But is this fare? Had they started thinking like us, then why have their own ages and own stages?It isn't fair but thats how life is

No I'm not saying that people must go out of control, but neither should Savita go out of control. Atleast in Savita the adrenaline is supposed to have calmed down for her to evaluate her son and realize that to approach him there needs to be a new method reinvented or discovered? She needs to discover how she could make Archana her friend, even strength, not her enemy.Her case is different Polki . She is the character in that full serial who sufferedthe most losses .

Manav is in love with Archana, he was never so smart from the very beginning, however he did color his love with as much purity and responsibility as he could. Yes, I know about that period in which the most craziest story I hear (donating husband, him saying "OK!" 😆🤪), if we think without those madness, it does look that even within their stupidity, all Manav looks for is being in proximity with Archana (even with Archana's madness) 😉.

Savita's age also have many highlights for her relationships. A new light comes, her spouse is not there ever - no apart from him ... she still could capitalize on her relationships with her son in a more intelligent way ... and not getting excited by the comments of a drunken man in home (her husband), which is very naive by her. But then she IS a naive , transparent character .First Manju manipulated her then Damodar .

By the way, it is said about her Grandson, how she shared with him her grief, how she thinks only the grandson is with her. But hey, are you sure grandson will be with Savita once her gets the right opportunity? 😳😆. Don't be mad at me, I am just wondering 😆. The baby has not much choice, the little person can't even walk or talk. Beyond that, once he knows that his mother left him and went USA (as koolsadhu once told) and that Savita was the one who took him away, what perception will he have towards Savita? Because eventually if he sees his mother and talks for a period of time, he will not completely manage to hate the mother. So against whom do you see all the evidences? Plus, he will have a girlfriend and Savita will be ok with it? (but it doesn't seem there will be too much possibility for the grandson to feel bad against Savita till any girl comes into the picture, its just too much strain on the child already) 😉.Savita will be OK surprisingly with Sachus Girlfriend . She was OK with son Sachin's wife . She really isnt THAT unreasonable u know .

Manav might say many things with heightened emotions for the child of his dead brother. But hey, its not his own son. No matter which promise he made, no matter how and in what capacity, he cannot be that child's father. This logic should've come to the more matured people in the home, as per Savita, or perhaps this mad girl's mind (how can someone donate her child? she was the mother!!!), or ofcourse this mad girls father! So all those who had direct attachment with the child, had claim on the child, and were more in control of their chemicals ... were just asking for a restless lover boy of another girl (however mad she be) to come forward and with a state of heartbreak (due to misunderstanding with his girlfriend) accept the child as his son 😃? Even if he said such a thing, could they not deduce anything? On for the grab was it? ... but didn't work out 😊. Manavs brother is DEAD and Manav WANTED the baby in this world .The moment he married he changed is the story

At best in this age the boy can be only this much responsible. Someone like Satish is a different category. Manav is not at all bad, but unfortunately stupid enough, and maybe found a girl who is also too stupid ... yet they came together with so much love that they are considerably mad about each other now. They did wait till marriage (isn't it? ... I think they are waiting still right? 😆😃🤪), they did introduce the girl/boy to the parents, they did go ahead and get their jobs first ... they did show a willingness to remain in love and respect to their parents. Yes with alot of inconsistency with the parents, but there the role of a matured adult comes to consult with them on what would be a better approach to the parents .... but not go ahead and beat the girl or the boy 😆.

Another aspect, Manav taking slaps from Archana's mother and not tolerating slap on Archana's face 😳. Maybe he is just saving her cheeks for his kisses, so he don't like the element of slap on it? 😆😃😳. But jokes apart, he is a BOY IN LOVE isn't it? 😆. How could Archana tolerate the slap? , I mean a woman cannot, it is another madness. But this serial is sometimes with stories which are too mad to understand which is more mad 😆. Yes he is a boy in love but Indian boys r raised to fall in love differently .They DON"T turn back on responsibilities . He did .

Manav will apologize to Savita if Savita comes and gives a hug to Archana and tell her son how much she loves him, and say's to Archana about how she wants everything to start from the beginning. Then if Savita show a little more maturity, eventually I think Manav and Archana will be her two greatest pillars. She can do it, if only she would want to do it from her heart. Nothing else will work. Atleast this is my perception 😆Yes that will only happen . Ur analysis had me in splits😆😆😆

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Then either u stopped watching serial or were out of touch for a long long time dear .😊

That is owned repeatedly, but recently, JDJ and your commentaries have landed me quite a frequent viewing.😆😆

Coz Her anger resurfaced during SECOND JAILING . I keep repeating this in all my posts and I wud point it out again ............She had

1] Accepted Archana and requested her to stay

2] Archana refused coz Manav was hell bent on marrying Shravani

The point I sited as the proof of her reconciling with Sachin's loss as far as Archana is concerned

3] Savita did not like it and got MIFFED that Archana waltzes in and out acc to HER whims

4] Still she was cordial to her after she came back after one year

5] She was cordial to the point she went to Archana's second engagement upon Archana's insistence and gave her saas a good report of Archana .That She is good bahu and good human being .

Was it not before Elopement, till the time she and Cvs had Shravni at hand for drama (as contended)

6] It was when Manav was jailed for second time and AGAIN this time Karanjkars looked away that she SNAPPED . Coz this time Manav was going in for LIFE . First jailing she had got beaten and names had got tarnished and SAchin had died and now Manav was gong away forever .

again, Archana had done all in her power to undo the jail (though you had diff. POV there,perhaps), she had no reason (her character by logic) to place her wrath on Archana, so again Shravani's departure is Cvs' imperative, in my POV.

Her arch enemy Rasika spoke sensibly for once and told her The Karanjkars r hypocrites and they r doing this to her son .

Its at that point she decided I just dont want this girl and her baggage . I dont blame her a bit . No saas in the world wud have ever looked at archanas face and no boy wud have remarried Archana . This fairytale is STUPID so I am on the side of the realism element .

Stupidity galore and realism absence is completely agreed.