Kool Comments : Feb 26

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Kools reporting from base : Savita Slaps Archana in PR . Saturdays r my busiest days . So I will only give my comments today , by coming straight to the point coz I believe CVS read the commentary . And since all sympathy is gonna go to ARMAN today I wish to make MY controversial view point to be known . No humour today coz episode is intense in last scene . I will go STRAIGHT to last scene only . Fantastic acting between Mother and son . Hats off to Sushant Rajput and Usha Nadkarni .........the scene ANGERED and PAINED me . I request Manav fans to forgive me in advance today coz what I have to say for this character called Manav has to be said , as I believe in speaking my mind . .
Manav felt ANGER and PAIN to see Archana slapped .........it was in his question TUNE ARCHANA PE HAATH UTHAYA . A calm , cold , pained , contemptuous question to his nervous , dithering mom . The slap was given NOT in hatred for ARCHANA PERSONALLY but to the remark SOMETHING MAY HAVE HAPPENED TO SACHU . The Slap was to THAT POSSIBILITY . Something happened to Sachin her son ..........but NOTHING will happen to THIS SACHU was the crazed woman's GRIEF that came out in the form of that SLAP . One Sachu I lost but second Sachu I CANNOT EVEN BEAR THE THOUGHT OF LOSING HIM was that SLAP . Archana was NOT even in Savita's mind when she slapped her ..........she wud have slapped ANYONE who wud have said that LITTLE SACHU MAY HAVE BEEN KIDNAPPED OR LITTLE SACHU MAY HAVE DIED .
Whatever Savita told Manav later ........that I wudn't HAVE SLAPPED U was not true . She lied to hold on to him . It was PATHETICALLY PAINFUL , that lie that she uttered to appease her son . Its SAchin all the way ...........Sachin who DIED , Sachin whom she sees in Little Sachu and Sachin whom she now hangs on to in the form of her LIVING ONLY SON Manav . Savita wud have slapped even Damodar for uttering possibilities that Little Sachu cud DIE Or be Kidnapped or LOST TO HER FOREVER .
The answers given to the cold, systematic queries of Manav were the frightened ditherings of the tremendous insecurity created in her tired old mind by TWO MEN who were HERS once ..........DAMODAR and MANAV . ARCHANA HATES ME AND IS JEALOUS OF ME . Why ? Why has this fact sunk in that tired old brain ? Coz these two Men CONSISTENTLY praised Archana to the skies and told her SHE IS BETTER THAN U . U HAVE TO SIT AT HER FEET AND DRINK THE WATER .
It brings forth HATE that kind of GOADING . Baap BETA did it in plenty ...........Beta did it AFTER marraige . So it HURT MORE . She tried telling something to Damodar today morning but Damodar DIDN"T LISTEN . He dismissed her off as PAGAL .
Beta who has become BUSINESSMAN in TRUE SENSE now gave a cold calculated answer to his emotional wife yesterday . You see guys the Wife , foolish though she is , is not a bad person AT ALL . Very emotional at heart and has the capacity to SENSE PAIN . Also has the capacity to be FAIR in her mind ..........remember how she insisted Shravani's baby shud be given to HER ONLY when Savita had said U two get married and look after Sachu . The WIFE is NOT a business woman YET . BETA has become PAKKA businessman though IT SEEMS . He said LETS NOT RAISE HER EXPECTATIONS , HUH ?And OPTED OUT of going to the alternate night dinner . Beta did NOT bother to INFORM her well in advance though . She cooked EVERYTHING like a pagal for him . And waited with a Pagal expression on her face . And when he did not come , did PAGAL talks with her grandson .......U DO MANTRA TANTRA on KAKI coz she takes all people AWAY from me . Ever since she has come in my life , I LOST PEOPLE . Two years back I had EVERYTHING . Now I have ONLY U .
With a half crazed look in her eyes the old lady talked ALL DAY to the little chap , not really understanding that the little fellow did NOT understand anything she said . She fed him , bathed him , and took him shopping and talked to him all day and when her tired Brain went BLANK coz nowdays she BLOCKED a lot of her Mental Pain silently by swallowing it , she FORGOT him and LOST him .
The BETA laughed contemptuously and coldly at his mom and told his WIFE in front of the woman ..........YOU KNOW ARCHANA , THIS WOMAN .......MY MOTHER LOSES EVERYTHING COZ SHE DOESN"T ALLOW ANYONE NEAR HER . SHE LOST SACHIN , LITTLE SACHU and DROVE ME AWAY TOO . MOM do me a favor .........GO . I am nOT UR BETA from now on .
That KILLED the old woman . She was CRACKING but somehow till then she was glueing the pieces with effort , now she completely CRUMBLED . Coz what the BETA did was he told a woman who had borne immense PAIN of a dead son .........THAT UR RESPONSIBLE for all these 3 losses .
It was CRUEL . It was twisting a knife in a mental wound so deep , so festered , that the STUPID BETA did not even know how DEEP he twisted it .
Archana's sufferings have often been compared to Savita's on this forum . But yesterday someone made a very accurate remark .............For the mistakes Archana did [ like walking out on Manav] we can say Archana was PUNISHED ENOUGH . Things became better for Archana eventually . But we can NEVER say Savita was PUNISHED ENOUGH coz Sachin is NEVER gona comeback . Things can NEVER be better .........her punishment and grief r both ETERNAL in nature .
Savita was right . Archana HAS come between her and Manav after all ...........but its not ARCHANA who has done it . Its MANAV who has brought Archana between them . Archana is blameless .
He returned tonite after hearing the convo between his mother and Sachu coz ARCHANA was criticized .
He coldly cut off relations forever today coz his mom slapped Archana , not him .
He constantly tells his mom its thru ARCHANA i will keep relations with u and She cries out silently KEEP THEM WITH ME INDEPENDENTLY LIKE BEFORE . She was not there when u were in my tummy for nine months ...it was just the two of us . And thats the way it shud always be SON .
She would have eventually accepted Archana as she loves her son far too much . But BEFORE accepting her she wanted ASSURANCE that relations between herself and her son were INDEPENDENT by themselves , UNINFLUENCED by the CHANGES in his life POST MARRAIGE .......namely the WIFE .
But the son , NOT known for his sensitivity , did not understand what his mother wanted . Like a BUSINESSMAN he insisted on SELLING A PACKAGE DEAL and later decided ENOUGH WAS ENOUGH and THAT HER EXPECTATIONS NEEDN"T BE RAISED .
Today he twisted the knife FURTHER by bitterly commenting that he brouht SACHU home with HAQ as a KAKA . I forgot I don't Have the HAQ he said ith a bitter smile , laying GUILT on his broken mom . There was no one there to ask the son REALLY ? Didn't SEE u going EVER to inquire after him EVER SINCE u REMARRIED , so u ACTUALLY REMEMBER u have a nephew and u have so called HAQS ? Oh WOW !!!!!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Thought u were too busy EXERCISING the HAQS of a JEEJOO !
Maybe the two HAQS overlapped ? Hmmmm ? But GOOD that u remembered u had a HAQ ! OMG !
Ideally Vandu shud have said this to DADA Manav . I read a comment somewhere saying SHAME ON VANDU for not taking cognizance of Savita's problem . Was confused . WHY ? The poor girl is battling with her own problems caused by her dear brother's OVER INVOLVEMENT with his SAALI 's problem ........rumors r RIFE in society that her BROTHER is having a dirty AFFAIR on the SLY with his own SAALI . She is fighting those rumors and tackling her HEAD EATING SAAS . Like a normal Indian girl she visits Maaika occasionally only to visit her mother and has no idea of these recent developments . Last time her STUBBORN brother ORDERED her to take care of the SAALI and went with WIFE to see his mom when she immediately wanted to go . She does not visit Maaika ALL THE TIME like the KARANJKAR SISTERS . Why blame her ?
Can we please see DAMODAR redeemed from CHAMCHA sasur to PROTECTIVE Husband and giving MANAV a HARD , HARD SLAP ? For driving Savita over the EDGE ? And admitting HIS role in the mistake ? I LOVED Damodar once u know .
So much the Slap to Archana hit Manav where it hurts ! The Mom was THROWN out of his life forever ! But The dialogue to Sulochana who slapped him THRICE was I DON"T WANNA LOSE U !
But thats coz he doesn't mind being slapped HIMSELF ! He DOES mind when someone slaps ARCHANA though say the viewers . AH ! Such LOVE ! 👏👏👏👏
Then shouldn't the SAME ANGER be shown towards Archana's sisters too ? Coz they both treated Archana shamefully ! Not just Manav mind u , they have disrespected Archana as an elder sister many many times ! But I see Manav RUSHING to envelop them in his arms and FORGIVING them !
Today BETA MANAV was not ready to give the bank address of his old home even to open an account ! It seems he didn't want his MOM"S obligation or help ! OMG , SUCH SELF RESPECT ! But he didn't mind taking VARSHA"s OBLIGATION of standing GUARANTEE for him ..........Varsha who has insulted him SHAMEFULLY in the past ..........why ???? Coz she is Archana's sister . OMG the BETA feels SICK to take a Mom's reference but doesn't mind the SAAli's reference ? How the SOCH today has changed !
Its like the Mothers give birth to SONS to see them SOLD OFF to HIS SASURAL . The point of the GARLANDING in the ceremony is actually the point where she RELINQUISHES ALL RIGHTS . The bank guarantees for him from then on r his IN LAWS .
I will NOT call him a NALAYAK BETA or a FAALTOO Beta . I will request CVS to show a scene where He goes to meet Savita bit she turns him away or tells people to tell him to GO AWAY . I wud request CVS to show that Savita's anger against Archana TOTALLY GOES coz she realizes who the REAL CULPRIT is . Just like Vaishali has MISPLACED anger on MADHURI not DHARMESH ...........Savita too shud realize her MISPLACED ANGER .
Oh yea .Before I wrap up I want to comment on TWO COMMENTS that caught my interest recently ...........
What has Savita done but HOUSEWORK ? She has NOT made any sacrifices for Manav ! .........I guess our Moms were worthless then coz they were housewives . The immense sacrifices they did , the tireless work they did was NOTHING compared to the working women . Pardon me . Dismissing a mom's job as mere HOUSEWORK was a little difficult to digest but I did it .
Both MOTHERS and MOTHER IN LAWS Shud not be BULLIES . Agreed . But what should we call Archana who was ordering Madhuri to leave Mumbai so that her darling sister should never be able to see her face again ? What was SHE being ? A MOOT question !
Oh BTW I don't blame Archana for raising her voice at all . It was NOT petty yelling like Varsha does , she told the woman a simple truth , thats all . Kudos to Archana .
Kools signing off late today . Don't tell me I didn't warn u guys , my comments r CONTROVERSIAL today .Don't expect ANYONE to agree with me .😊😊😊
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hi Kool,
Kool, you have taken two of the comments from me from other threads and I would like to answer you for that ..
Bullies are wrong ...So what if they are mothers and mother in laws ...
Kool ,I think there is a difference between beign a constant bully and between beign unfair at times .
Wha tI have seen in this show between savita and Archana is a very ver ylong term bullying relationship .I can tell you at least 25 terrible incidents when she has bullied her very badly ..
What Archu did to Madhuri was unfair ( in my eyes it was nto byllying ) .She had seen her with her brother in law i na hotel at night and it made her angry .I think most of us would have felt that way .Most definitely I would have and I don' think I am a bully at all...
What savita has done with Archcna is very intense kind of bullying ...and no way can this be comapred with that one or two statement that Archan put on Madhuri ....
I also did say that I found even Sulochna to be bullying Manav at times .I have tried my best to be fair to everyone , even Savita ......
Of course yo ucan agree to disagree with me ...
And yes , about vandita .I do feel that after knowing how savita was throwing dinenr on the floor and forgetting things , not just Damodar and manav but even Vandita shoudl show more concern for her mother .Daughters care so much for their mother's well being .She should have also checked her mother out .Her husband is wonderful , he would have made sure that she would go and see her .. mother .....
I don't want to say that your commentry is wrong or yourt point of view is wrong ..Just wanted to clear the two places where you had quoted my statements ....😊
Of course different people have different point of views and that is quiet OK with me ...
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Originally posted by: Tanyaz

Hi Kool,

Kool, you have taken two of the comments from me from other threads and I would like to answer you for that ..
Bullies are wrong ...So what if they are mothers and mother in laws ...
Kool ,I think there is a difference between beign a constant bully and between beign unfair at times .
Wha tI have seen in this show between savita and Archana is a very ver ylong term bullying relationship .I can tell you at least 25 terrible incidents when she has bullied her very badly ..
What Archu did to Madhuri was unfair ( in my eyes it was nto byllying ) .She had seen her with her brother in law i na hotel at night and it made her angry .I think most of us would have felt that way .Most definitely I would have and I don' think I am a bully at all...
What savita has done with Archcna is very intense kind of bullying ...and no way can this be comapred with that one or two statement that Archan put on Madhuri ....
I also did say that I found even Sulochna to be bullying Manav at times .I have tried my best to be fair to everyone , even Savita ......
Of course yo ucan agree to disagree with me ...
And yes , about vandita .I do feel that after knowing how savita was throwing dinenr on the floor and forgetting things , not just Damodar and manav but even Vandita shoudl show more concern for her mother .Daughters care so much for their mother's well being .She should have also checked her mother out .Her husband is wonderful , he would have made sure that she would go and see her .. mother .....
I don't want to say that your commentry is wrong or yourt point of view is wrong ..Just wanted to clear the two places where you had quoted my statements ....😊
Of course different people have different point of views and that is quiet OK with me ...

Ajit and Vandu r MORE involved than Archna and Manav any day with Savitas life . Only a day has passed and its said shame on Vandu , who has been the most balanced character so far . Her obstinate brother dominated her into staying back and went and since the problem was related to him she respected him and listened . Sorry I disagree STRONGLy about Vandu .
The poor dear is battling with SICK RUMORS due to Archus stupidity of keeping Vaishali SO LONG with her .
As far as underlined statement of long term bullying goes ...........I wanna say something . Savita is that way with ALL . She even railroaded Shravani at times and we ALL know how sharp Shravani was . U Can call her a Natural Bully or simply a dominant , aggressive character whatever u wish .Thats why i said AGREED . But I wud STRONGLY emphasize that Archana is no GAREEB BICHAARI to take it . SHe takes it coz she gives it NO IMPORTANCE and has other goals .Archana can be very tough at times . Her decision to be soft with Savita is her conscious way of giving her that special allowance as Manav's mother coz she loves Manav deeply .
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I agree with you 100%. Manav was horrible in breaking relations with his mom. As far as Savita slapping Archana, she probably should've slapped her own son for what happened. Manav has crossed his line. I feel, that now he's even worse than Damodar. Vandu and Ajit should not be held responsible for Savita's illness. I'm glad Archana and Solochana were worrying for Savita in the precap. And by the way, when will that episode take place? There was an article that said Savita was going to get ill and Archana will take care of her, and they will become close to each other and it was going to be shown in today's maha episode but they showed Sachu getting lost. I hope ArMan come back into the house, Manav treating his mom nicely, Savita mellow down towards Archana, and some sense into Damodar. Damodar has never respected Savita even when Savita was kind to Archana he still never loved her. Kools, I have to say that I feel really bad for Savita at the end what do you say? He has done way more than enough. And yet they call him a protagonist? For what happened today, hopefully Manav gets a really hard slap. Maybe two. I knew that a couple episodes back, they wanted us to think that Manav Savita bonding was coming back but I had an idea that was very temporary. I don't think Manav will come back to Savita's house on a alternate day basis anymore. Poor Savita, just going through so much depression. No one consoles her. Manav is too harsh, Damodar makes fun, butshe won't allow Archana to console her. Vandu should, but she will probably support Manav over her mother. I would like the creatives to show Vandu talking to her elder brother by telling him that the way you are treating our mom is wrong. But she will support her brother. Ajit will too support Manav. Rasika probably won't even care. Anyway, I hope the next episode will be better. Please do reply Kools when you have time. I know, it was a very sad episode.😭
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hai Kool Di,

Nice Comments Di.

Ususally anyone would say agree with some and not agree with some.
But seeing the epi these days,with the same point,it is to be agreed some time and disagreed sometime.

Last part was emotional and couldn't say with whom to find fault with . Sometimes feel both are at fault,sometimes feel sorry for both of them.
Feel sorry for both Manav and Savita.

fabulous acting by Sushant and Ushaji.
Hats off to them. Sav's fear on seeing his son,Manav's dejected feeling on seeing,oh god how to correct this.everything was shown well by them.

Then about slap,I would say,sav was not in right frame of mind,so when she hears accident,on high impulse she slapped. so I would say none of archu fans get offended by that slap.

Di,I would say,its a Big blooper from CV's part they are tarnishing Manav's character Like this.

Di,I am saying what I felt on seeing manav's emotions today (It might be wrong too).
I felt that his Dejected feeling was not beacuse Archu got slapped(his loved one get slapped), its a fed up state that ,oh ,How am I going to make things right between the two souls whom I love the most. Seeing his mom's hatred for archu,he is fed up and gave up on seeing that slap that ,never ever he will be able to mend things between his mom and his wife. I think Like us ,he too was waiting and wishing to see a Happy Deshmukh family. But seeing the situations it seemed Less achievable for him. so he too was feeling lost.

Di, Because girls are always emotional(to an extent). Thats why archu could sense sav aai's pain and she kept quiet.Even after getting slap ,she doesn't mind that ,only on seeing manav ,she felt worried ,oh what is going to happen and she kept looking at both. and when sav aai said ,she is jealous ,she showed a expression,oh aai ,why cant you understand,just give me an opportunity to prove that these were false accusations.
she is trying to mend the situation and bringing things right between mom and son(her and her sasural).

But Guys are not like that. Thats why Manav look insensitive in certain situations.(and quite egoistic too).

I said its a Blooper by CV because, if they wish to show manav who is strong,doesnt support false hopes , doesnt wish to get any Favours,and do what he thinks correct,Then they should show him doing the same to both his Maayka and Sasural. Should show him as the same man in all situations.
But they are showing ,when it come to savita ,he is saying no lies,no false hopes but whereas when archu's sisters and sulo is concerned he is telling lies.
That where this character Lacks credibility. If he choses The attitude he has for is aai in vaishu's matter also and solve it by telling everything an face whatevevr may comes.Then its fine.

Poor Savita. ARMAN has got a chance to get into Deshmukh house.Hope they all make it up well this time and finally our wish gets fulfilled.

Totally agree with you Di. Savita's current state is due to Manav's fault and to an extent Damodars's and savita. Yes,They would have stayed far but found out more ways to strengthen their relationship with his parents from far. He hasn't done that. Instead everytime a comparison was done which has increased sav's hate for archu.


Hope at least coming epi's as a remedy for it.
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Originally posted by: bhallarox

I agree with you 100%. Manav was horrible in breaking relations with his mom. As far as Savita slapping Archana, she probably should've slapped her own son for what happened. Manav has crossed his line. I feel, that now he's even worse than Damodar. Vandu and Ajit should not be held responsible for Savita's illness. I'm glad Archana and Solochana were worrying for Savita in the precap. And by the way, when will that episode take place? There was an article that said Savita was going to get ill and Archana will take care of her, and they will become close to each other and it was going to be shown in today's maha episode but they showed Sachu getting lost. I hope ArMan come back into the house, Manav treating his mom nicely, Savita mellow down towards Archana, and some sense into Damodar. Damodar has never respected Savita even when Savita was kind to Archana he still never loved her. Kools, I have to say that I feel really bad for Savita at the end what do you say? He has done way more than enough. And yet they call him a protagonist? For what happened today, hopefully Manav gets a really hard slap. Maybe two. I knew that a couple episodes back, they wanted us to think that Manav Savita bonding was coming back but I had an idea that was very temporary. I don't think Manav will come back to Savita's house on a alternate day basis anymore. Poor Savita, just going through so much depression. No one consoles her. Manav is too harsh, Damodar makes fun, butshe won't allow Archana to console her. Vandu should, but she will probably support Manav over her mother. I would like the creatives to show Vandu talking to her elder brother by telling him that the way you are treating our mom is wrong. But she will support her brother. Ajit will too support Manav. Rasika probably won't even care. Anyway, I hope the next episode will be better. Please do reply Kools when you have time. I know, it was a very sad episode.😭

I second THAT . All wanted to see Savita CRAWL back to Manav , well Im NOT one among those fans . Its a PATHETIC sight , as PATHETIC as the dancing she did at Rasikas party . I hope someone gives Manav good publicly .The stupid chawl women r taunting him about the WRONG thing . They shud taunt him on THIS .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Umi .........the CV BLOOPER of butchering Manav's character was also done during sindoor scene and engagement scene . Im just so SAD today , telling his mom to GO like that . His success , his goodness , nothing will make me happy anymore .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I too feel Irritated with Damo Baba these days. He is Doing things as if only taunting savita is his job.
Anyone who stays with us long will know us and when we behave different they will make out surely.That how it is,when we are not feeling well how our loved ones sense that.

Still Damodar not realizing savita's problem is strange.even after she left the baby at a shop and came home,he just scolded her ,then after knowing where sachu is ,he told her to get him and go back home.
Arrey yaar,just now she left the baby somewhere,you are again asking her to get baby and go home alone. Didn't you sense something wrong and that you should accompany her.

on archu's single statement,sulo could make it out. That what elder people experience is. Didin't Damo baba have it.(surely I missing Kaka-he would have been sensible).

So I too wish him to behave sensibly and usefully.
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All Manav had to do was call his Aie immediately and tell them that Archana found sachin and we will bring him in an hour ....any adult would do this ...its common sense.Instead of accepting his fault he lays a guilt trip on her ...or Archana she should have told or she would have called to let savita know that she found sachin in the market ...I think savita was right in slapping her and she should slapped manav too!!!!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: umayal

I too feel Irritated with Damo Baba these days. He is Doing things as if only taunting savita is his job.
Anyone who stays with us long will know us and when we behave different they will make out surely.That how it is,when we are not feeling well how our loved ones sense that.

Still Damodar not realizing savita's problem is strange.even after she left the baby at a shop and came home,he just scolded her ,then after knowing where sachu is ,he told her to get him and go back home.
Arrey yaar,just now she left the baby somewhere,you are again asking her to get baby and go home alone. Didn't you sense something wrong and that you should accompany her.

on archu's single statement,sulo could make it out. That what elder people experience is. Didin't Damo baba have it.(surely I missing Kaka-he would have been sensible).

So I too wish him to behave sensibly and usefully.

Me too .For The first time I missed Kaka . Damodar doesnt see the frightened scared look in her eyes he only monotonously calls her PAGAL .
As far as Manav goes , he is OUT of my heart . It was the way he told her to GO .

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