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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: sindoorfan

yes Kools, I do see ur point. and I do realize with parents its a diff equation. In our case, yes, my husband did give that ultimatum in desperation during one of the "episodes", but never actually followed it through. How could he? No matter what, she is his sister...one and only... and in her own way she loves him, and so does he. Yes he did not talk to her for almost 2 mnths, but believe me that action hurt him as much as it must have hurt his sis. Slowly as a family we again came together, but mine and her relationship perhaps can never be smooth. I have now learned to accept that. She has her own family, since my mil passed away some yrs back, and my fil too old to be dragged into all this, it does become more of our responsibility to work this out somehow and keep working at it probably all life. A friend of mine had said, why tolerate a sil? MIL ya FIl hoti toh saamaj shakti, but why her? U know why Kool? Because she is the only sis he has, and somewhere up there my MIL's soul will never rest in peace if her 2 kids drift away..... so we do what we can... but trust me it does get pretty tough... I see my husband's frustration... and hence I can see Manav's frustration too. I believe, just like my husband, Manav too won't carry this forward... he will rush to her side when he realizes how sick she is and how much she needs them now. The character Manav is still not dead for me... IF he were to turn his back, EVEN AFTER knowing abt. his mom's health... that day YES Manav will be dead.

See Thi is exactly my point again .........Blood relations NEVER break . Something happens and it forces u to get up and be there for ur family , however flawed they may be . Siblings r not perfect [ like ur SIL} and the man is sandwiched . Its horrible torture for the man .
U wanna know the real reason why Im so angry with him ? For NOT noticing how she was cowering in fear . It was so UNNATURAL . She is NOT like that .Such a bold , aggresive lady she was dithering and talking like a child . But he was BLIND to that . That pricked me . If ur her son , u shud know ur mom . Something shud make ur antenna wiggle uneasily .
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: nikitagmc

Hi Kools! How are the twins??? :-)

Hahaha ! Diplomatic niks ! Manav ki dhulaai ho rahi hai so staying OUT of the conversation and talking on neutral topics ! Arre baba I have apologised in advance to Manav fans in my commentary .
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Posted: 15 years ago
Yes I do agree that he is so lost with his sasural's problems that he does not care for his mom's problems any more and mind you none of his offending talks are pardoned but I still feel that he did the right thing by standing up for his wife. The stupid dialogues are a mess from the creatives. The dialogues could have been better specially that last statement. He could have instead told Savita that fine you don't like us this way or that way and I cannot leave Archana so you decide what you want and I will abide. That would have made more sense.

anupama , I think he has gone a little overboard with the standing up for wife thingy . That package deal message has hit the old lady hard and she is now craving for her son in the way he was BEFORE rchu came in his life . Normally I wudnt say anything abt standing up for wife but seeing how his mom is cracking up nowdays it wud have done really well for him to hold his tongue and simply take her home . Sending Sachu with her is DANGEROUS she may sit in a train and go somewhere she doesnt even want to go . Somewhere Manav lacked the sensitivity to sense her state and that put me off .
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Hahaha ! Diplomatic niks ! Manav ki dhulaai ho rahi hai so staying OUT of the conversation and talking on neutral topics ! Arre baba I have apologised in advance to Manav fans in my commentary .

Arre niki Kools par kab tak gussa rahogi for doing dhulaai of Manav . Buddhe logo ko maaf karna chahiye . Like Im advocating for Savita .
Twins r fine . I will now retire to bed .Good night dear .😆😆😆
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Hahaha ! Diplomatic niks ! Manav ki dhulaai ho rahi hai so staying OUT of the conversation and talking on neutral topics ! Arre baba I have apologised in advance to Manav fans in my commentary .



Call me whatever you want- diplomatic or whatever.

Actually I don't care about the serial anymore. The story doesn't make any sense. The characters have taken a 180 degree turn and behave so differently from what they were before. I just can't identify this Manav. You can bash him as much as you want, I really don't care- and you don't need to apologize for that. I do read your commentary since I understand that you spend time on it, and I appreciate that, but many times I don't comment cos I don't understand what to write except CV's suck.

That is why I didn't enter the conversation yesterday and today even. I don't find anything 'discuss karne layak' in the serial anymore. I am seriously bugged up. We keep reiterating our points but the CV's don't notice. So I don't feel like writing the same same posts anymore. The CV's want to make a mess of the story, what can we do.

I just felt like having one of our chat sessions- like old times. That's it. So asked you casually how are the twins.

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Posted: 15 years ago
Sorry to hear about your SIL Sindoorfan. I guess every household has 1 or 2 people like that, who dont get along with everybody else. And good to hear that your husband and in-laws supported you. This is definitely one of the reasons I feel sorry for Savita and angry with Manav. She has no support- one son is dead, daughter is married and settled in her own family and husband is of no support whatsoever. I dont even consider Damodar in the equation- if a man doesnt support his wife and disrespects her in front of outsiders, even children, he is no husband. Manav knows his home life and I'm guessing Damodar didnt suddenly change after Manav's second marriage, that he was always absentee and didnt respect his wife ever. So telling his aged mother who had freaked out about losing her grandson that she was responsible for losing Sachin and that he was no longer her son is so wrong on so many levels. I understand it was not just due to Savita slapping Archana and was perhaps, anger building from many days; but the lady is still grief-stricken over her son's death and has no other emotional or moral support. Even Archana had her whole family and half of the Deshmukh family supporting her during the initial days. And everybody needs somebody to lean on, whether good or bad. This same Manav had told Archana that his mother had not seen much money in life, thats why she is so interested in her gold. And he cant understand his mother's grief and state of mind now?

The second reason is his relations with Archu's family. Having good relations with in-laws is a very good thing, I want my boyfriend and his family to have very good relations with my family after marriage. He already cares about my sister and cousins so much and that is partly why I love him so much. But in Archana-Manav's case, his in-laws have always treated him badly. Lets forget for a moment about the umpteen times hes has been insulted and jailed himself. But because of Manju, his young unmarried sister and old parents were tortured in jail. That is very bad in any situation, but especially in lower middle class people where a young girls character is tarnished if she goes to jail. And Manav's brother and Damodar's son died due to that jailing, however indirectly. I would be beyond furious with Archus family if I was in Manav's or Damodars place, but Damodar the father who just lost a son and whose daughter was in jail arranged anticipatory bail for Manju so that she didnt even have to visit police station. And Manju had wealth and her mother who was well to do and in Womens association behind her. Oh, and also her husband and in-laws who did not condemn her because she was pregnant. And Manav went shopping with her and saved her butt- the person who was the direct cause of tragedy in his family. She showed no signs of repentance even after she was caught and Manav is cordial with this woman. Is this real in any way? Did he not love Vandu and Sachin as much as he loves Archana then? Still, maybe he is a veryyy good person and forgives everyone easily. Not just forgives, but forgets altogether. No apologies needed from Archus family either. But he will not forgive his old mother who has no support for mistakes, okay sins she committed.

This is height of double standards for me. If you have so much self-respect, behave the same way with your in-laws who have caused you and your family so much harm. But he wants to show his ego to his mother who has no other support? Who has experienced so much grief already? Being a son to your in-laws is commendable, but try being a good son to your own parents first. His hypocrisy and double standards leave a very bad taste in my mouth.
Edited by sowmya_jairam - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: goblue



Thanks Shraddha, He is fine now ie he is home, can move about in the house. has vision issues and many many mood swings, again all due to the hemmoraging in the brain which eventually was contained. He loves cricket so I am hoping that the world cup will bring cheer.

Take care.. Anjali



Good to hear he is fine now. Don't worry this problems will also slowly get cured 😊
Yest was India's match hope he would have enjoyed it 😊 The match ended up in tie 😆 wich disappointed many indian fans
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Posted: 15 years ago
I read very interesting personal life stories here. Thanks for sharing it all soumya ,sindoorfan. By reading i can only say u have gone through many phases of life n tats wat it is.Hats off to you soumya, sindoorfan, anjali for handling such situtions so maturely 👏

Kool di n tanu di had also shared sum stories here b4

Keep writing such good things n abt ur experience like this so tat the chota ones like me 😆 can get a guidance of how to handle a situation in life

A big hug from me to u all courageous ladies 🤗
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Posted: 15 years ago
Hey! 😊 ... I just read the serious commentary, and Manav laughing 😆😳😉??? ....

Anyways, lets see, I wish to write a little 😎 😊:

Savita is very aggressive isnt it? People can be like that ofcourse, but my curiosity was how did Savita must have behaved with her own in laws? Any guesses from her current way of life and attitude? 😳😊

In our mid/late 20's, 30's and early 40's we have a different thing rushing through our bodies 😆😉, in this time if our parents and we ourselves dont allow each other to evolve into a relationship which might be different from our childhood relationships, then clashes and uncomfortable (often useless) pain surely follows.

Problem is that the dire, brave, passionate and heartfelt emotions which take the woman or the man by storm in these exciting ages are not only natural but very required too. This makes love THAT cherished syrup of astonishment! Makes people go that extra mile. Makes those kisses feel sometimes just a little more than heavenly. You just get lost somewhere with every touch, can't even remember later where you went 😳😃! However, when we cross 40's and the adrenaline calms down, we start forgetting what we went through and expect our children not to react to the FORCES WORKING IN THEM at all times. But is this fare? Had they started thinking like us, then why have their own ages and own stages?

No I'm not saying that people must go out of control, but neither should Savita go out of control. Atleast in Savita the adrenaline is supposed to have calmed down for her to evaluate her son and realize that to approach him there needs to be a new method reinvented or discovered? She needs to discover how she could make Archana her friend, even strength, not her enemy.

Manav is in love with Archana, he was never so smart from the very beginning, however he did color his love with as much purity and responsibility as he could. Yes, I know about that period in which the most craziest story I hear (donating husband, him saying "OK!" 😆🤪), if we think without those madness, it does look that even within their stupidity, all Manav looks for is being in proximity with Archana (even with Archana's madness) 😉.

Savita's age also have many highlights for her relationships. A new light comes, her spouse is not there ever - no apart from him ... she still could capitalize on her relationships with her son in a more intelligent way ... and not getting excited by the comments of a drunken man in home (her husband), which is very naive by her.

By the way, it is said about her Grandson, how she shared with him her grief, how she thinks only the grandson is with her. But hey, are you sure grandson will be with Savita once her gets the right opportunity? 😳😆. Don't be mad at me, I am just wondering 😆. The baby has not much choice, the little person can't even walk or talk. Beyond that, once he knows that his mother left him and went USA (as koolsadhu once told) and that Savita was the one who took him away, what perception will he have towards Savita? Because eventually if he sees his mother and talks for a period of time, he will not completely manage to hate the mother. So against whom do you see all the evidences? Plus, he will have a girlfriend and Savita will be ok with it? (but it doesn't seem there will be too much possibility for the grandson to feel bad against Savita till any girl comes into the picture, its just too much strain on the child already) 😉.

Manav might say many things with heightened emotions for the child of his dead brother. But hey, its not his own son. No matter which promise he made, no matter how and in what capacity, he cannot be that child's father. This logic should've come to the more matured people in the home, as per Savita, or perhaps this mad girl's mind (how can someone donate her child? she was the mother!!!), or ofcourse this mad girls father! So all those who had direct attachment with the child, had claim on the child, and were more in control of their chemicals ... were just asking for a restless lover boy of another girl (however mad she be) to come forward and with a state of heartbreak (due to misunderstanding with his girlfriend) accept the child as his son 😃? Even if he said such a thing, could they not deduce anything? On for the grab was it? ... but didn't work out 😊.

At best in this age the boy can be only this much responsible. Someone like Satish is a different category. Manav is not at all bad, but unfortunately stupid enough, and maybe found a girl who is also too stupid ... yet they came together with so much love that they are considerably mad about each other now. They did wait till marriage (isn't it? ... I think they are waiting still right? 😆😃🤪), they did introduce the girl/boy to the parents, they did go ahead and get their jobs first ... they did show a willingness to remain in love and respect to their parents. Yes with alot of inconsistency with the parents, but there the role of a matured adult comes to consult with them on what would be a better approach to the parents .... but not go ahead and beat the girl or the boy 😆.

Another aspect, Manav taking slaps from Archana's mother and not tolerating slap on Archana's face 😳. Maybe he is just saving her cheeks for his kisses, so he don't like the element of slap on it? 😆😃😳. But jokes apart, he is a BOY IN LOVE isn't it? 😆. How could Archana tolerate the slap? , I mean a woman cannot, it is another madness. But this serial is sometimes with stories which are too mad to understand which is more mad 😆.

Manav will apologize to Savita if Savita comes and gives a hug to Archana and tell her son how much she loves him, and say's to Archana about how she wants everything to start from the beginning. Then if Savita show a little more maturity, eventually I think Manav and Archana will be her two greatest pillars. She can do it, if only she would want to do it from her heart. Nothing else will work. Atleast this is my perception 😆





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Posted: 15 years ago

Your commentary alerted me to a possibly high voltage Maha (?) drama. Two actors were commendable.

So indeed they (Cvs) precipitated first slap by Savita. Or a second defiance/ check by Archana. Cvs are milking all possible theatrics before they reconcile two characters. For them, it's necessary keep a counter weight set against either of the lead in during their melding process to maintain tension. So Savita, post Shravni, until new strain is developed. Jaywant or Vaishali?... as Savita will be reconciled to Archana? Hoping to be proven wrong for both tracks would be competing in ugliness.

Going by story told, Savita is showing ONLY selfish possessiveness- I, me and myself kind of self preservation and intense jealousy. How else can she feel aggravated at even a harmless revelry among Father, son and SIL? Or The moment of relief. Instead of intense relief, it ensures a jibing hatred. Not even a moment of happiness at receiving the news and a straight forward assault. This reaction bears only one explanation- Jealousy-Grief card does not hold by any logic- however painfully we may try to apply it.

Again, I feel, all these highly illogical (her hatred- Cvs' means for melodrama)-not able to buy 'hatred out of grief'. She had been already reconciled to Archana AFTER that. In so complete a sense that she pronounced her better then Shravani or making a point to ask Manav to accept her back. Her second phase of hatred (and soon to be turned into filial love) derived from elopement had only one valid reason of 'loss'- Little Sachin and NOT Manav. Because, Manav loss was self earned can be undone any moment she chooses (she knows it and she acts on it too). So once she secured Sachin, she had NO fresh reason for grief induced hatred for Archana.

My POV.

Edited by smrth - 15 years ago

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