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Posted: 15 years ago

You can say u disagree with me ..............is it really necessary to tell me that u don't RESPECT my views and that they are ONE SIDED ? Who is to be the judge of THAT ? For the x number of posts that disagree with me for this view .........like ur post or dew's post or Tanyas post ..........there r many who agree too .............so how is MY view ONE SIDED and not yours ? Who is to decide that ?
Inspite of all this I still respect your view , even if it is DIAMETRICALLY opposite to my View . I wouldnt ever dream of not RESPECTING it even if I didnt agree with anythinG . Its Your view , thats it .......its so simple for me .
You found THIS thread a Kools Fans thread , I am surprised u dont look around the forum and notice threads where ARMAN fans gather only to praise Archana and Manav ..the leads , whatever nonsense they do . How come u didnt spot dissent when Dew was arguiing with me , Bonny gave a neutral view , Tanya gave her view , Gene Nisha and naava gave hers ? How can u say this is a Kools Fans thread nowdays .........who am I , someone great ? No , Im a simple person posting MY views ..............thats all ! If people agree with me nowdays its not coz they r MY fans but bcoz the storyline SUCKS and their views co incide with mine !
People r Archanas fans or Manavs fans coz they are somebody ...........why wud they be Kools fans .............who is Kool ? They jump in the discussion with THEIR views given by their observations .............lets not dismiss them off as KOOLS FANS please ! Its discrediting their intelligence .
Why urge ladies to join in and oppose me ? Those who are interested will come of their own accord ...........u give ur views , simple !
Yes it IS possible to maintain relations independently .its not all that difficult is my firm view . Archana gave Haldi Kunku to sister Varsha who came to her door turning up her nose and refusing to enter her house that she compared with SERVANT quarters . She was INSULTING Manav very badly but I didnt see ANY effect on Archanas relations with her sister for THAT .............so why cannot it be the SAME case with Manav ? He neednt take Archana to meet Savita like he foolishly does , neither does he need to sleep there at nights , but how about going every day , spending some time , asking if they need anything , giving household expenses ?Whats so wrong with this and how does it TAX Manav and how is this HARD TO DIGEST ? Neither am I advocating they shud go back nor have i admonished Archana for RAISING her voice to Savita............infact I gave her KUDOS .
Let us agree to disagree . I stated in my commentary my views r controversial . My objection is to ur statement that this is a Kools Fans thread . This is an insult to the intelligence of other viewers .
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Hi There Kools,
First of all let me apologise for using a wrong word while expressing my views. I am not surprised that it hurt you. It would hurt anyone. I was just writing in a hurry, scribbling infact, and hence perhaps used the word "cannot respect" your POV. It just came out unintentionally. Trust me I am not that kind of a person at all. Even if I do not agree with someone, I always make it a point to agree to disagree. So my sincere apologies.

However, finding your POV one sided is not a bad thing to me. I mean yes, many many others agree to your views and so do I with most. In the Savita vs Manav track, I feel that you are only seeing the situation from Savita's side and ignoring what Manav is going through. Hence I said "one sided" You ask how am I supposed to judge wheather it is one sided or not? My question is why not? Just like you find many others comments completely Archu/Manav centric, so did I found yours as Savita centric. Is that wrong?

Also when I said "Kools fan thread" I DID NOT mean it as derogetory to either you or to all the people who visit your thread, infact wait eargerly for it EVERYDAY, including ME. You are a very good writer. I am sure many people read your thread not because they all agree to what you say but they love and enjoy reading your writing. How is that a bad thing Kools? Ask people around here... are they not your fan? I am. I DO NOT find that SHAMEFUL or in any way RIDICULING our intelligence! Here I am hurt that you came down this hard on me over this "fan" word. I made that post not to ridicule anyone. My point was before there used to be many more disagreement posts/discussions. But recently saw posts mostly from people who agree with you.I WAS MISSING THE COUNTER ARGUMENTS. However, as I go through this commentary, I am glad to see the counter POV. I liked reading that and was eargerly waiting your rebuttal. THATS ALL.

Even then, I am sorry to have caused you hurt. That was never my intention.
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Posted: 15 years ago
Tanya, thanks for sharing your opinion on the question I asked. :-) God forbid, if I ever found/find myself in such a situation, my life would be close to devastation! I agree that I would never be able to break off my relations with my folks but at the same time I would find it extremely difficult to maintain a happy relationship with them. I would not expect them to love my guy, but would ask for some decency. EVEN IF ITS FAKE. Just to maintain some peace when they are around each other. I find Savita lacking there very much. I am not supporting Manav whole heartedly either. He has his faults, BIG ONES. Like you so very nicely put it across the other day, he is very much responsible for this whole fiasco. If he knew how to balance relationship, specially between mother and wife, things would never have come to be this bad. He has his faults, and I do feel sad for Savita in her current situation. But cannot say that Savita is all "poor Savita" Savita too has her negatives.
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Posted: 15 years ago
kools i agree with your commentary..
my only anger on manav is he is not consistent with his rage. if he is so swabhimani that he was offended by his mom insulting archu.. then why the hell is he aiding dharmesh who has called their pavitra rishta bogus and called archu names... why is he not giving back to manju who has called archu wat no and also made her life hell.. when he knowns to suck up to archu maayka and forgive all their misdoings i think he should do the same for his mom too. wat did K do so much that he melted.. just asked armaan to come and stay that too just bcs archu was sick.. if not i dnt think sulo wld have forgiven them so easily.


Also i see many posts saying manav has done enough already that he has been working since he was 15.. are our obligation and responsibility towards our family.. measured only by the effort we put..well for that matter archu has sacrificied equally as manav. she too forgave ger studies so that her sisters cld study further.. wat manav did outside archu did in her home.. with taking our the full responsibility of ruchi and her siblings....still i donot see archu turning her face over from her maayka problems.. just becos they didnt support her relation with maanav.. also her siblings have turned no stone unturned to insult manav.then archu too shld be "Fed up" and not go to her maayka? but does she? she is still busy solving their problems rather than have a marriage. in that way i wld respect archu more.. atleast she has been consistent and tried to have balance. manav should do the say. first is he needs to really feel bad for telling such pinching words to his mom and apologise ASAP.
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Posted: 15 years ago
Lovely post as usual Kools. Read it the first thing in the morning yesterday but couldn't write my comments as I had to run after my sons .Their exams start form the 1st of March. The worst part is that they have a gap of 4 days between every exam and they are really going to drive me up the wall. They have endless list of demands like ... 1 hour to play outside (which stretches to two hours) or half an hour of computer games (which again stretches on endlessly) something to munch all the time , fights in between for pens and pencils etc..... Someone rightly said when you become a parent you become more of a referee.

Manav has once again handled the situation very immaturely. When he knew that his mother was not well, he should not have insulted her this way.Knowing her condition and the situation he could have comforted her and explained the situation later.

And how stupid of him not to have telephoned his mother or father to say that Sachu is with them.Even a child of 5 knows now a days that he should inform his parents of his whereabouts immediately though mobile. Or better still archu cud have called up damo to inform him.

Archu was insensitive (unintentionally though) to say Sachu might have been run over by a car. Savita was right in slapping her as this would have brought the death of her son sachin to her mind. Any mother would have done this.

Sick of this Batat and Vaishu's track. Now they are going to divert the track to such a point where Manav's integrity will again be questioned. Hope they don't show Archu being J. Can't bear it.
And every one trying to perform a pooja seems so funny.Sulo wants to do one. Marwadin wants to do one for her DIL . Next it will be Bhavna for a grandson. And then Archu as the business has picked up. All this will help the CVs fit in more tamashas into the story line.

BTW I don't understand why Vaishu should hide Batats;' truth from his mother. She isn't asthmatic!!! 😆She needs to know the truth.No right minded girl would ignore such a loving MIL.

Looks like Bappa has been forgotten. 😊He must be happy now .Must be taking a looooooooong and well deserved break with his parents in the Himalayas. 🤣
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Posted: 15 years ago
Forgot to add.It was wrong on Manav's part to have used words like he is not her son. Very insensitive in fact, that too at a time when she is trying to come to terms with Sachin's loss. Perhaps he hasnt realised the intensity of the words he used.Let the CVs show him running behind her to apologise for what he has said.

I find his character very inconsistent at times.One day he lies in her lap and asks her to sing a lullaby and another day he says he is not her son anymore. !!!! Funny Manav. Crazy CVs for thinking up such perverted ideas and situations.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: sindoorfan

Tanya, thanks for sharing your opinion on the question I asked. :-) God forbid, if I ever found/find myself in such a situation, my life would be close to devastation! I agree that I would never be able to break off my relations with my folks but at the same time I would find it extremely difficult to maintain a happy relationship with them. I would not expect them to love my guy, but would ask for some decency. EVEN IF ITS FAKE. Just to maintain some peace when they are around each other. I find Savita lacking there very much. I am not supporting Manav whole heartedly either. He has his faults, BIG ONES. Like you so very nicely put it across the other day, he is very much responsible for this whole fiasco. If he knew how to balance relationship, specially between mother and wife, things would never have come to be this bad. He has his faults, and I do feel sad for Savita in her current situation. But cannot say that Savita is all "poor Savita" Savita too has her negatives.

it's such a sensitive situation now ...
I hope the writers handle this well..I have an Uncle and he is 80 years old .He was very sick few weeks ago and had to eb hospitalised .Now his son wants him to give up where he is living and move in his house .My Uncle was always a very controlling man ...the eldest in a family of 12 brother and sisters ...He is not at all used to having anyone tell him what to do ...bu tnow he has no choice ...
He is in such a bad mood these days and sounds terribly depressed. I call him every single day 9 in the morning sharp to just lift him a bit, tak about cricket and all that , but he is just getting more and more depressed ..
I sometimes see this as savita's problem as well...She is getting old and has always been a controlling person ..It is degrading and very bad for her to be told that she is getting old and forgetful ....
The other day she was proudly telling Sulochna how well she takes care of herself ..Savita is more looks conscious even than Archana ...and likes to be compared to heroines and all that ...
It would be a killer for this woman to be told that she is suffering from a mental illness caused by old age .....
Of course I don't consider her a poor woman ...I am not going to go into details wh yI don't feel bad for her ( I am sure yo uknow very well ) but looking at her vulnerability and her age , I do hope that her problems with her son are sorted out soon ...
I really really hope tha tshe will not go hard on Archana this time when Archu will start taking care of her .....Little bit friction I expect but nothing like what it was whe n Archu went to stay for 3 months ....Tha twas the kind of torture I never want to see in PR again ......Don't know how Archana survived .any normal girl woudl have killed herself in depression .....
Let's wait and see how the track unfolds ....😊
Edited by Tanyaz - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
Tanya, you r such a wonderful person. May God bless u... Tanya, I have also faced what Archu faced befoe and is facing now again at Savita's hand. In my case, it was not my MIL who was a most loving MIL anyone can wish for. It is my sister-in-law who like Savita, always fears that I am out there to snatch away her brother, and even her mom n dad who did see me as I am and being the awesome people they are, have always loved me. But this does not go down well with my sil. She feels I am cunning and manupulative, and dramebaaz, and what not! and I am fooling all etc. I have tried ,God knows, again and again to win her over but have failed. My husband ofcourse loves his sis, but over the yrs. did get fedup with her and there was indeed a time when he had told her that IF she continues this he might have to end his relation with her! Trust me, he said this in immense hurt. He still loves her, and keeps praying that one day she comes to her senses. Well its not that we don't have relation with her anymore... we do... but my husband did give her that ultimatum. I am going to be very honest here... I am grateful that my hubby and inlaws stood by me, and that gave me courage to slog on with our relationship. (me & Sil) The fact that I have by hubby's support helps me in taking her sharp words... which goes on to this day, but she has toned it down a little after that episode.
So when I read your updates its like my life is in front of me... there are many illogical things in every serials including PR, but some of it does show real life. Its when we can draw parallels with our lives and we tend to get more emotional over the track. I don't post much, but this track is too close to life.
Sorry for this long post, just felt like sharing :-)
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Posted: 15 years ago
kool di Thnx for liking my post..you can call me Nisha :))
wow dis track is actually very nice.we may agree or disagree but its damn intresting atleast for me..reminding me of the tracks wen D's went to jail for first time and Archu staying at D's for 3months..the only tracks i lke till now in PR are
1)wen Archu was dere in D's after dere wedding
2)wen D's went to jail for first time.goshh dose epis brought goosebumps to me
3)wen Archu again went to D's house for 3months
4)wen Manav went to Jail for 2nd time..i know most of the ppl disagree wid me here but i loved how everyone scolded Archu for taking so much care of manav and why dey took divorce if dey actually lovee so much?and later Re union
but other dan dat i feel bored wen CVs concentrate more on k's :(
and i agree wid u,Tanaydi on ArMan's temporary seperation and i feel if dat happens savita will gradually realise she is wrong by not letting Archu inside D's house as manav is not at all happ without her..one time or other she has to REALISE Archu is manav's real happiness
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Posted: 15 years ago
I don't know how kind I am or anything like this but I do know that we all have to go through this time in our age when we will have to depend on our young ones to take care of us ...It is a scary thought but it is something that will happen .
If we take care of someone now and be nice to them ....who knows , tomorrow someone will be nice to us ...
Your story is a story of almost every home Pavitra Rishta has many many aspects of different relationships that we can identify with ...
This show is not the number one show for nothing you know ...It is pretty close to life in many ways ...
Obviously your sister in law was insecure .....thank God your husband and your in laws supported you .. They did the right thing by not backing their own blood but supporting the daughter from the other home ..They have strengthen their family and if this family is strong then it is good for everyone ...including your sister in law ....I am sure she too will appreciate one day that she was not encouraged when she was doing something wrong ..
It is so difficult to say No to someone yo u love but by telling them that they are wrong ( if they are asking for something wrong ) we are protecting them from harm in the long term..
Coming back to the show ...that is what Manav should have done with his mother long long time back ..he didn't ....and now both him and his mother are hurting so bad .......The whole family is falling apart ...
Let's see how they put all this back together .....
It is really good you shared yoru experience with us ..We are humans ...we all need to be encouraged if we do something right .....
may God bless you , your family and your children ......😊
Edited by Tanyaz - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
Hi There Kools,
First of all let me apologise for using a wrong word while expressing my views. I am not surprised that it hurt you. It would hurt anyone. I was just writing in a hurry, scribbling infact, and hence perhaps used the word "cannot respect" your POV. It just came out unintentionally. Trust me I am not that kind of a person at all. Even if I do not agree with someone, I always make it a point to agree to disagree. So my sincere apologies.

However, finding your POV one sided is not a bad thing to me. I mean yes, many many others agree to your views and so do I with most. In the Savita vs Manav track, I feel that you are only seeing the situation from Savita's side and ignoring what Manav is going through. Hence I said "one sided" You ask how am I supposed to judge wheather it is one sided or not? My question is why not? Just like you find many others comments completely Archu/Manav centric, so did I found yours as Savita centric. Is that wrong?

Also when I said "Kools fan thread" I DID NOT mean it as derogetory to either you or to all the people who visit your thread, infact wait eargerly for it EVERYDAY, including ME. You are a very good writer. I am sure many people read your thread not because they all agree to what you say but they love and enjoy reading your writing. How is that a bad thing Kools? Ask people around here... are they not your fan? I am. I DO NOT find that SHAMEFUL or in any way RIDICULING our intelligence! Here I am hurt that you came down this hard on me over this "fan" word. I made that post not to ridicule anyone. My point was before there used to be many more disagreement posts/discussions. But recently saw posts mostly from people who agree with you.I WAS MISSING THE COUNTER ARGUMENTS. However, as I go through this commentary, I am glad to see the counter POV. I liked reading that and was eargerly waiting your rebuttal. THATS ALL.

Even then, I am sorry to have caused you hurt. That was never my intention.


Sindoorfan ......... . My turn to apologise . I am SORRY . I guess I misunderstood then . . Actually I admit , I was a little surprised coz u always read my commentary and wud seem like the interested regulars . . I am so touched u read it regularly ............u wud click on like button but comment very rarely . . I totally agreed with ur comments about mama's boys turning into joru ka gulam that day . .
Ur intention was good and u were eagerly waiting for my rebuttal .........I am so sorry if I hurt u dear . The reason I got a little defensive is bcoz lately I have been taking so much flak for not agreeing with popular opinion that it is becoming increasingly hard for me to discern who means well and who is being plain mean .
Let us put this unfortunate misunderstanding behind us and continue with discussion , Ok ?😊

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