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Posted: 15 years ago
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hey guys..in my back yard are 5 almond trees blooming...and they are a symbol of hope for us here. That spring will indeed come even though winter lingers on. Let's project that for our beleaguered families and friends on PR... that things will turn around and the beautiful scent of the almond tree will waft through minds of everyone on the set and us too....from the cv's to Manav, Archana, Savita, Damodar, The K's etc.all the way to Varun & Sachu and the bab(ies) incognito & to us the viewers...and bring some smiles and hope for a better week and future. eh what? .
Nice to hear that naava😊
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: goblue

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Thanks Shraddha, He is fine now ie he is home, can move about in the house. has vision issues and many many mood swings, again all due to the hemmoraging in the brain which eventually was contained. He loves cricket so I am hoping that the world cup will bring cheer.

Take care.. Anjali

Hope your dad gets better and enjoys the world Cup ..take care ....😊
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

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1] He shud NOT take Archu with him but go alone .......INDEPENDENTLY is my demand , suggestion , whatever
I would like that also but I don't think that will happen ...TRPs problem again ...They will bring Archu because she will be told to take care of sachu as savita is not capable of doing so .....
3] I wanted Vaishu OUT so ARMAN cud have marital bliss
Vaishu is gettign on my nerves ..I used to love this character but then they started destroying it , first she was horrible to sister and jeeju and now she is just neither here nor there...She is boring ..Everytime manav wants to do something , she knocks and spoils the mood .....😡
She is least bothered about her own problems or even her baby .Not once ( since she has come to stay at Archu's ) she has said , I need to see a doctor or get the baby checked up etc etc .....
4] I wanted him not to praise Archu on Moms face as it drives her crazy but to do duty and come back
Agree ..completely
5] Now in this whole thing why bring this that UNLESS u like my spouse I wont even do my dUTies , fails me , whats so terrible about my thought process I dont understand
If you are asking me , then perhaps I would say , go a little easy on Manav ....He too has suffered a lot .Even though he too has made terrible mistakes ..He is human and was driven up the wall by his mother ...
believe me he will always be there for her .He loves his mother way too much .He was hurting so bad for beign saying those words to her ....Both mother and son have hurt each other ....
At one point I hope they hug and make up and start respecting each other again and take a fresh start in life ....
But of course the choice is yours ....You have a point of view and a strong one and there are members out there who see things from that point of view ....so it's OK ...
We Archu fans should be hating Manav forever after the way he behaved on the divorce day .......me and GM had decided that we would hate him forever and he became our no. 1 villian of the show that day , we were begging for another lead for Archana .Somewhere we wil lalways be scared ofManav when he goes on hsi guilt trips ...
...But time passed and now we like him a lot ....
What's the point of looking back and get angry ....what he is doing now is good enough ...
6] I even gave kudos to Archna and said SHE is blameless .So Im like HUH ?????

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Posted: 15 years ago
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I want to ask the forum ladies here, married or in a commited love relationship..... IF in real life, your mom/dad hated the guts of the man you love what would you do? Not just dislike the person, but constantly curse, verbally abuse, call names ALL THE TIME ! Its one thing your parents don't approve much your choice, but another thing being so violent abt. it all the times. Given such a situation, would you girls be able to turn a blind eye to all that, and continue a happy, healthy relationship with your folks INDEPENDENTLY??


This is very personal and I'm a very reserved person, but I'm going to share this with you since you asked this particular question. I'm in a very similar situation as Manav. My mom is alone with some relatives back in India, me and my sister are both studying in the USA and my dad passed away recently. I'm 100% committed to my boyfriend of 7 years, and he and his family have been very, very patient and helpful always. But my mom doesnt like the idea of love marriages, and maybe she is insecure. She doesnt like my boyfriend or his family, just because he is my boyfriend. And I'm at a loss everyday how to deal with it- let her think badly about them which I know is not true and will not help; or defend them which makes her more insecure because she thinks I'm already taking their side making her dislike them more. I've tried different ways of letting her know, convincing her, all to no avail yet. But I do know one thing, that I love my mom and my boyfriend as well, and a very large part of what I am today is because of my parents, especially my mom. I know for sure she loves me and she tells me that her only wish is that I marry according to her choice, which I know is not possible. I know and I tell her that marriage is not just the ceremony, but a lifetime of companionship, so I cant marry somebody I know I will not be happy with. I talk to her twice everyday since I moved to the USA, and I continue to talk to her twice today and keep telling her I love her. Sometimes she disconnects the phone in anger, but I call her up again and again as time permits. Of course I lose my temper and she does too, but I dont let it linger. I try to make up immediately. And I have stopped talking about my boyfriend or marriage and have requested her to do the same, since talking about it right now is not helping and I'm hoping that time and thinking will convince her that she will always be a very important part of my life irrespective of who I marry.

So you see, my problem with manav is that he's not trying to make up with his mother. He is not spending any time with her as a son only, he is always trying to talk to her as Archana's husband. Which like I said is not working, so he should let Archana be and spend just 5 mins with his mom everyday. Parents, Indian parents especially, think they know what is best for their children and that children should follow them. That is again because children continue to live with parents even after becoming adults. In several cases, parents are right. In this case, I dont think Savita ever wanted Manav to be unhappy. And the circumstances of their second marriage, no Indian parent would happily welcome their children the way Archana and Manav got married, whether or not there was any past differences between them. And in this case, the issue was so much more complicated-there was the issue of little Sachu, Shravani who was technically their responsibility, Manav's in-laws who have never been good to the Deshmukhs in so many ways and several others. Savita trying to burn Archu was completely wrong, but here she has also lost a son for life and was on the verge of losing her beloved grandson as well. The action was still wrong, but her reasons for hate are also very strong.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: tiya229

i havent watched the episode yet, but read Tanyaz wonderfully detailed update.


i am ANGRY at manav. he is mad that his mom cant accept archana. but HAS he DONE anything to put archana in a postive light? no. he has FLUNG archana's goodness (which does more harm) in SAVITA's face.

BUT my question is savita's accepting of archana going to MAKE everything ALRIGHT?? is manav's love for his mom DEPENDENT of her acceptance of archana??? if then WHAT kind of LOVE is that???

i am deeply hurt, angry and upset at cvs for showing manav in such a cheap light. LOVE shouldnt be dependent on ANYTHING. it should be FREELY given.

manav forgot that when archana LEFT him, his MOM stood by him. he FORGOT that she nutured him and LOVED him when NO ONE else would.
tommorow, if savita and archana have a disagreement what WILL manav do? say he wont LOOK at her FACE till she agrees with archana? WHAT TOXIC LOVE.
its teenage BEHAVIOR at its best, and INSOLENCE on manav's part for taking his mom's LOVE for granted.

MANAV is so HYPCRITICAL.i am angry at baap- beta for thinking that 2 year old relation is MORE important than 30 year old relation.

damodar: this woman STUCK by you; seeing him at his worst. HOW can he favor archana over HER?? no matter how "good and sanskaari" archana is, the least he can do is be neutral.

manav: YOUR MOM's relation with archana is BETWEEN them. protect your wife WHEN SHE NEEDS it, but DONT interfere between bahu-saas.
your mother HAS gone through the worst thing a woman can ever go through: she BURIED HER SON. No mother wants to do that. that kind of HURT and PAIN takes TIME to heal. HE cannot FORCE his mom to heal and accept archana like he accepted the K-KLAN. NOT DONE.

the worst, manav LIED to injustify the SLAP.

CVs. stop disrespecting the bond between mother and son. it shouldnt be held down by anything else.

tiya darling ........ I have underlined these parts coz thats precisely my argument .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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he is always trying to talk to her as Archana's husband.
sowmya this statement puts my argument in a nutshell .
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I sympathise with ur situation and thank u for sharing it with us . This is precisely what I am talking about . One doesn't discard ones parents if they dont like the spouse . Likes and dislikes cannot be FORCED on people .
My brother's daughter was in similiar position as u .........my bhabhi hates her rbf . After 7 years . She does EVERYTHINg for her . only child so only earning member too .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

🤗 Anjali firstly a hug for meeting u after so many days *AWWW, thanks so much"
Secondly I know what ur saying coz my mom had paralytic stroke when I was in US and I pretty much cud NOT do anything for her as my sister did
Thirdly Manav doesnt stay abroad or even in another suburb he stays at a distance 5 minutes away
Fourthly I insist he shud NOT take Archana with him for geting abbused or insulted but go alone , do duty and come back
My objection was to his SIMPLY not going .coz his parents dont have his brother any more to fall back on .Vandu is a married daughter living with a khadoos saas who wont allow her to take on the role of Manav in that house
So my point is ..keep Archu away , do duty and let ur mom come around on her own , dont force Archu down her throat .its driving her to crazy hate .

I pretty much agree with your points about how Manav can do so much more for his mom by simply being more understanding and using his brains. MY small reaction was more telling about how he may be feeling so guilty about his choices (running away from mandap, not providing for his family since 2nd wedding, his mother making it only a binary solution, "either you are with me or against me" (even if it is out of grief). Sometimes, it is hard to do the right thing but that does not mean one does not want to.

My reaction was I think more emotional than rational reasoning which you have illustrated so well. His statement of "go away" was more out of desperation and frustration of not being able to be only the 'son' his mom wants .

Believe me, when I was in India, my mom was feeling on one hand very secure and comfortable to know that I am there to deal with the scans, tests, physiotherapy, running after doctors etc but was equally feeling distraught that she had to pull me away from my life. Everyday she would cry or say many times that "why does God is keeping us" as she did not want to take the burden even from her daughter. Each day, I felt horrible and wanted to be at both places. Things are much better now but what it has taught me is that "it is so difficult to always do the right thing even when one so much wants to do it.

Take care... Anjali

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Sowmya.. You are dealing with the situation so maturely, in fact in the only possible way as it stands. May be there is a third truth somewhere and it will just emerge. Very often in conflict, both sides are right but coming to a solution often is portrayed as someone won and someone lost and that does not have to be that way. Our parents mean the world to us, but we also are the individuals that we are. I read some time ago that "be compassionate for the person who you are today" and it so hit me because most of us are inherently moral and good but are also very hard on ourselves because we are moral and good. It taught me to respect what I was feeling and go on. Hope this helps.. Take care.. Anjali
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Kool, Anjali,

Thank you for your kind words. Yeah, I've come to believe that things fall in place at the right time. Till that time, I am trying to maintain both sides of my relations independently. I cannot and will not abandon my mother, and thankfully, I have a wonderful younger sister who takes over when I get too frustrated.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam

I want to ask the forum ladies here, married or in a commited love relationship..... IF in real life, your mom/dad hated the guts of the man you love what would you do? Not just dislike the person, but constantly curse, verbally abuse, call names ALL THE TIME ! Its one thing your parents don't approve much your choice, but another thing being so violent abt. it all the times. Given such a situation, would you girls be able to turn a blind eye to all that, and continue a happy, healthy relationship with your folks INDEPENDENTLY??



This is very personal and I'm a very reserved person, but I'm going to share this with you since you asked this particular question. I'm in a very similar situation as Manav. My mom is alone with some relatives back in India, me and my sister are both studying in the USA and my dad passed away recently. I'm 100% committed to my boyfriend of 7 years, and he and his family have been very, very patient and helpful always. But my mom doesnt like the idea of love marriages, and maybe she is insecure. She doesnt like my boyfriend or his family, just because he is my boyfriend. And I'm at a loss everyday how to deal with it- let her think badly about them which I know is not true and will not help; or defend them which makes her more insecure because she thinks I'm already taking their side making her dislike them more. I've tried different ways of letting her know, convincing her, all to no avail yet. But I do know one thing, that I love my mom and my boyfriend as well, and a very large part of what I am today is because of my parents, especially my mom. I know for sure she loves me and she tells me that her only wish is that I marry according to her choice, which I know is not possible. I know and I tell her that marriage is not just the ceremony, but a lifetime of companionship, so I cant marry somebody I know I will not be happy with. I talk to her twice everyday since I moved to the USA, and I continue to talk to her twice today and keep telling her I love her. Sometimes she disconnects the phone in anger, but I call her up again and again as time permits. Of course I lose my temper and she does too, but I dont let it linger. I try to make up immediately. And I have stopped talking about my boyfriend or marriage and have requested her to do the same, since talking about it right now is not helping and I'm hoping that time and thinking will convince her that she will always be a very important part of my life irrespective of who I marry.

So you see, my problem with manav is that he's not trying to make up with his mother. He is not spending any time with her as a son only, he is always trying to talk to her as Archana's husband. Which like I said is not working, so he should let Archana be and spend just 5 mins with his mom everyday. Parents, Indian parents especially, think they know what is best for their children and that children should follow them. That is again because children continue to live with parents even after becoming adults. In several cases, parents are right. In this case, I dont think Savita ever wanted Manav to be unhappy. And the circumstances of their second marriage, no Indian parent would happily welcome their children the way Archana and Manav got married, whether or not there was any past differences between them. And in this case, the issue was so much more complicated-there was the issue of little Sachu, Shravani who was technically their responsibility, Manav's in-laws who have never been good to the Deshmukhs in so many ways and several others. Savita trying to burn Archu was completely wrong, but here she has also lost a son for life and was on the verge of losing her beloved grandson as well. The action was still wrong, but her reasons for hate are also very strong.


Thanks for taking the time and discussing this point. I never wanted to pry into anyones personal space, just wanted to discuss a "what if" situation. It was very brave of you. You are a very good daughter and I respect your approach towards handling this sensitive situation.

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