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Posted: 14 years ago

Koolsadhu,

This week-end, saw the episode and your commentary properly…let me present the counterview here, as permitted by your welcome to contrary…

Savita: Is she a bipolar? How else can one explain her Lady Jackyl or Mrs. Hyde sorties!

  • Would keep on cursing Archana for Jail- Her son's death etc., never bothering to remember inconvenient culprit Manjusha, but then won't hesitate a moment to burn this girl alive if it satiates her macabre sense of revenge-unafraid of jail and next moment will start moving as a saddest mother in the world (haltingly and broken, eyes full of hurt and lips pursed in sadness- with a craftily sneaked jewellery in one hand!).
  • Won't hesitate a moment to throw her husband down into same Jail on same pretexts when he tries to rein in her murderous rage, and conveniently slipping back into the role of a mistreated, ill provided wife.
  • Won't think twice in throwing her son and his bride out on the road in dead of a night won't budge an inch over most obdurate stand in accepting them back, but then expect same son to keep on looking after them- old aged parents- even more laughably- expecting him to return to his parents with immediate abandonment of his wife!! She will keep on accusing her son of neglect, never bothering to spend a single cent /thought where his happiness lays. After all it's her incontrovertible right as a mother- well exercised since his early age. May be she has the right of charging every single ounce of blood she had nourished him to, but what right does she have to effect slavery on her DIL?
  • Won't think twice over the PUBLIC onslaught of her son- not even for a moment trying to look at the pain in his eyes, reckless imperilment of her own daughter's marriage (ref. Ajit a misnomer target in lieu of Manjusha, now that he HAS repented) or endless taunting to Manav-Archana and next instant will done a pathetic cloak of an abandoned old parent (Will berate them in enraged fury and next moment revert back to sad- defeated-eyes- twitched- hurt- lips of an old dejected parent)…..

Let us not even remember- character assassination, dowry demands, doormat treatment, foxily stopping her TRUSTING son's (and his wife) marriage consummation, ruthless destruction of a girl's marriage in connivance with her SIL……She is a mother injured indeed, except that she is no proper mother ever.

Kools, as you know we'd concurred on Savita as a mother (post: 'Aai'), even before her transformation...but her character portrayal is leaving much more to be desired….and yet your perception might be more thorough on her- I being a very irregular viewer…not for any debate…

Tc.

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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

She is what she is , HIS MOTHER is my meaning . Imperfect , but a mother who loves him very much . Dismissing her by saying where she cared forhis happiness etc is not done ..........and hence my above retort .For that matter , Sulo never thought of Archus happiness too and pretty much took her for granted . Yet Archu is loving her unconditionally .Manav too is loving his mom but currently not sHOWING it adequately enuf . He has failed .


He is making mistakes now kools, but we have seen enough of his character of 32 years. Lets not call him a failure so soon.
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: smrth

Koolsadhu,

This week-end, saw the episode and your commentary properly'let me present the counterview here, as permitted by your welcome to contrary'

Savita: Is she a bipolar? How else can one explain her Lady Jackyl or Mrs. Hyde sorties!

    Would keep on cursing Archana for Jail- Her son's death etc., never bothering to remember inconvenient culprit Manjusha, but then won't hesitate a moment to burn this girl alive if it satiates her macabre sense of revenge-unafraid of jail and next moment will start moving as a saddest mother in the world (haltingly and broken, eyes full of hurt and lips pursed in sadness- with a craftily sneaked jewellery in one hand!).
    Won't hesitate a moment to throw her husband down into same Jail on same pretexts when he tries to rein in her murderous rage, and conveniently slipping back into the role of a mistreated, ill provided wife.
    Won't think twice in throwing her son and his bride out on the road in dead of a night won't budge an inch over most obdurate stand in accepting them back, but then expect same son to keep on looking after them- old aged parents- even more laughably- expecting him to return to his parents with immediate abandonment of his wife!! She will keep on accusing her son of neglect, never bothering to spend a single cent /thought where his happiness lays. After all it's her incontrovertible right as a mother- well exercised since his early age. May be she has the right of charging every single ounce of blood she had nourished him to, but what right does she have to effect slavery on her DIL?
  • Won't think twice over the PUBLIC onslaught of her son- not even for a moment trying to look at the pain in his eyes, reckless imperilment of her own daughter's marriage (ref. Ajit a misnomer target in lieu of Manjusha, now that he HAS repented) or endless taunting to Manav-Archana and next instant will done a pathetic cloak of an abandoned old parent (Will berate them in enraged fury and next moment revert back to sad- defeated-eyes- twitched- hurt- lips of an old dejected parent)'..

Let us not even remember- character assassination, dowry demands, doormat treatment, foxily stopping her TRUSTING son's (and his wife) marriage consummation, ruthless destruction of a girl's marriage in connivance with her SIL''She is a mother injured indeed, except that she is no proper mother ever.

Kools, as you know we'd concurred on Savita as a mother (post: 'Aai'), even before her transformation...but her character portrayal is leaving much more to be desired'.and yet your perception might be more thorough on her- I being a very irregular viewer'not for any debate'

Tc.

Yup .Lets agree to disagree . I can post a similiar one outlining hundreds of Archnas follies that will show her in a very UNDESIRABLE light but nowdays I have decided not to debate it .But I was happy to see u after a longgg time .
Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
hi kools...namaste! you might be shocked, but i tend to agree with much of your analysis this time..not all of it but ....😆, don't fall off ur chair 😆😆😆 regardless of whether we agree or disagree i also have great respect for your views (thx for your comment last thread) cause you are passionate and consistent with what you believe. i enjoy the debate, and would love it over a cup of hot tea or coffee someday. 😛

i thought this epi was very sloppy, so many gaps....argh.. why was varsha shown all chirpy happy without any details or explanations..at least we know the sequence(s) of vaishali's turnaround..which started back awhile ago...but did varsha suddenly come to this chawl she hates and a light switch went on?...i don't think so but WE need the light switch cause the CV's left us in the dark...

and no it's not ok between V&MANAV..or is it?? she was honest like u said...at least at first...but then it looked like she was happy to hang around him, even beamed at him...i mean even with my "forgiveness track" 😆 there needs to be SOME verbal discussion about the situation and some dialog..a little give and take...you DO NOT just sweep everything under the rug..THAT'S THE WORST.

and kools, the money...omg...that was so ...out to lunch... to rush in and give that money to archu in front of the sisters.....the whole thing about this business is being handled very carelessly by the CV's. i hope for Ajit and manav it WORKS but it's a bit scary.

Maybe i'll do my thoughts in two different posts..so they aren't so long...but i have a QUESTION for you...but why don't you think Manoar would be happy about the 3 sisters together? or did i misunderstand u...i would think he would be happy too...??

The other thing i'll say about the arman home scenes...while it was for the show and the viewers that they repeated madhuri's story (since they did it SILENTLY the first time)...but did they forget that madhuri already told ArMan? realistically why would she come and tell archu the whole thing again as if she was doing it the first time?...(the cv's still left many gaps tho...WHY did Dharmesh leave her and marry ...well almost married another girl even before...Vaishali.... btw ..i think MAYBE his parents know about madhuri but not the child? how could you hide a marriage?

anyway..later i today/tonight after my afternoon nap 😆 i will comment on your Savita...😎 but i do think manav was wrong how he handled it at the house....
Edited by naava - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: naava

hi kools...namaste! you might be shocked, but i tend to agree with much of your analysis this time..not all of it but ....😆, don't fall off ur chair 😆😆😆 regardless of whether we agree or disagree i also have great respect for your views (thx for your comment last thread) cause you are passionate and consistent with what you believe. i enjoy the debate, and would love it over a cup of hot tea or coffee someday. 😛 Thanks my friend .🤗 I wud have loved the coffee banter too .

i thought this epi was very sloppy, so many gaps....argh.. why was varsha shown all chirpy happy without any details or explanations..at least we know the sequence(s) of vaishali's turnaround..which started back awhile ago...but did varsha suddenly come to this chawl she hates and a light switch went on?...i don't think so but WE need the light switch cause the CV's left us in the dark..Same here .

and no it's not ok between V&MANAV..or is it?? she was honest like u said...at least at first...but then it looked like she was happy to hang around him, even beamed at him...i mean even with my "forgiveness track" 😆 there needs to be SOME verbal discussion about the situation and some dialog..a little give and take...you DO NOT just sweep everything under the rug..THAT'S THE WORST. Totally agree

and kools, the money...omg...that was so ...out to lunch... to rush in and give that money to archu in front of the sisters.....the whole thing about this business is being handled very carelessly by the CV's. i hope for Ajit and manav it WORKS but it's a bit scary. Not only is it scary ........it looked so INAPPROPRIATE somehow . Giving it like that in front of the sisters with the door open ........its a CHAWL , ROBBERIES take place in chawls , u know ? Atmosphere there is vERY BAD although it has its own culture and warmth on another level . Isn't giving money to wife a PRIVATE matter naava..as private as the bedroom romance ? I grew up with that value . Its a very basic value I feel . They r handling money carelessly and inappropriately .

Maybe i'll do my thoughts in two different posts..so they aren't so long...but i have a QUESTION for you...but why don't you think Manoar would be happy about the 3 sisters together? or did i misunderstand u...i would think he would be happy too...??Oh no thats humor .......a joke .U see I have been doing this commentary for long and just like I caricature Dharmesh as the hot Batatwada , I caricature Manohar as the suppressed and oppressed man who watches the endless melodramas in his family silently , pretending to agree with his wife but having totally opposite thoughts . 😆😆😆😆 Its FUN .

The other thing i'll say about the arman home scenes...while it was for the show and the viewers that they repeated madhuri's story (since they did it SILENTLY the first time)...but did they forget that madhuri already told ArMan? realistically why would she come and tell archu the whole thing again as if she was doing it the first time?...(the cv's still left many gaps tho...WHY did Dharmesh leave her and marry ...well almost married another girl even before...Vaishali.... btw ..i think MAYBE his parents know about madhuri but not the child? how could you hide a marriage? It was a sloppy mistake of CVS .I actually believe the scripts r written on the day of the shoot ...........they dont bother to check what the earlier scriptwriter wrote nor do they watch their own show . They r sTILL fumbling with Dharmeshs story .

anyway..later i today/tonight after my afternoon nap 😆 i will comment on your Savita...😎 but i do think manav was wrong how he handled it at the house....Enjoy ur nap .😊

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Posted: 14 years ago
Fab commentary di,
your views are eye opener for me many of times to each POV...
I am ok with the we sisters are together, its really so, always quarelling with each other, but why Manav is so involved in giirly talks that too foolish ones

I was shocked too when Manav didnt follow Savita aai when she left the kholi dejected.
Ideally even if any relative visits our home, we dont leave them like this when they come to our home for first time....
About the forgiveness, he is like that only dii, will never show the pain hesufferd because of them, which I too didnt like
Even if she denied, Manav and Archu should have forced her to come inside ( by saying aaj ke din aap hamare saath khushi mein shaamil ho ) But no!! He just let her go 😔

Vandita behaved very sensibly when talking to Aai, girl rocks, but I felt being stubborn wont help anyone, atleast once she can forgive ArMan.
Vandita also should put thi words in Manav's head thats enough convince aai she loves you, she will listen to you.....
Someone should show this much courtesy to bury the grudges Manav cant leave Archu and Aai dont want to forgive Them, somebody has to show understanding nahi toh kaise chalega, life is short....

Madhuri shouldnt leave that bag gut Dharmesh, look at everyone's life, just destroyed because of him and he isnt ashamed of anything .......
I say leave that bad guy women, leave him......let him suffer lonely

And hope Varsha gets whaterver wish she wants, less headache for everyone
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Posted: 14 years ago
Manav is so involved in giirly talks that too foolish ones U know Sonii , I wud have liked to see his business venture MORE . This statement of urs is SO APT its EXACTLY what I feel , ............why is he even there in those girly talk sessions . Out of the blue we have seen him pointing a place saying I wanna start moneylending business here . After that ZERO ! What is he doing , how he is doing it , NOTHING ! To top it his wife doesnt have a CLUE ! All this is soooooooo bizzare ........umi put it very rightly for me ....Archus incessant maayka problems are a MAJOR PUT OFF as they DWARF Manav's characterization .Thats the reason i did this extra teekha commentary . .
And hope Varsha gets whaterver wish she wants, less headache for everyone
This is the most mature statement of the year .


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Posted: 14 years ago
yes dii, even I was wondering whats his presence will do for all the K's Manav should buck up for his business along with Ajit now. If they want to show happy family scene, then its ok but I didnt felt so....🤔

but I am skeptical for such type of business, I want his business to flourish but I have seen ppl dont give money which is lended to them, how Manav will do vasuli 😆😆
krupaya hame hamare paise dijiye??
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: ..Sonii..

yes dii, even I was wondering whats his presence will do for all the K's Manav should buck up for his business along with Ajit now. If they want to show happy family scene, then its ok but I didnt felt so....🤔


but I am skeptical for such type of business, I want his business to flourish but I have seen ppl dont give money which is lended to them, how Manav will do vasuli 😆😆
krupaya hame hamare paise dijiye??

Ajit will be doing the vasooli it seems .Ajit thought of it FIRST and he knew that Manav cudnt do it , it wasnt his cup of tea .Looks like Manav will manage the goodwill part while Ajit the rough part .

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