Ep 198 - 29-AUG-2019 - It's all up to you, Babita - Page 2

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

LMAO, we're like goldfish. 🤣

@Jean - I quite liked the length of this analysis. I feel like you covered all the essential stuff. Don't really know if there is anything else left to say. But then again, you know better than me. 😆

You can change up the analysis as per the episodes? If there are some scenes that you think need to be looked at more intently than others, then focus on those instead of the whole piece. Does that make sense?

Yaar, lalach buri bala hai. I still want to dig in a little bit more about ep 194. Will try and do it this weekend because I feel something would be missing until I post something on it.

Originally posted by: inlieu

I think Minnie too got a chance to connect the dots and speak her mind - it was a nice continuation of the thoughts she put in her diary about no one really seeing her. Why did she always have to appear to be happy for others and hide her own emotions?

Not sure if this 100% applicable since both Minnie and HS have seen each other in pain and cry before but I feel like what HS said today was a callback to yesterday's diary moment. HS sees Minnie has his Veer Balika and Babes sees her as her daughter. It was Mickey who saw her as a person. Similarly, Minnie sees HS as her Hanuman Uncle, while Babes with her mind clouded with insecurities, isn't able to see him clearly. At the end of the day, we're all just trying to find that one person who will see us for us. Not as a relation to someone but the crux of who we are.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Yaar, lalach buri bala hai. I still want to dig in a little bit more about ep 194. Will try and do it this weekend because I feel something would be missing until I post something on it.

LOLL, hum kaha rok re hai. Tum jab chahiye likho aur publish karo, hum par lenge. 😎

Also, throwback to that one day when you were asking us all, "Mein likhu ya na likhu?" Aur hum sab seena parh ke chila re the, kuch toh likh de behen. 🤣🤣

wonderful episode. Cvs 👏. when hanuman was saying all that to babita i was like go hanuman. I loved how he bought up that it was upto babita if she wanted to trust him or not and even babita knows that hanuman has done nothing that she should not be trusting him

I have said that one day i wanted Mini to confront Babita about the jewellery returning thing, the alimony returning & the slap in front of ashok thing. An we get that today. All these decisions have affected mini in a negative way.

But no Babitas ego is still intact, she in return blamed mini for staying in the loveless marriage with ashok 😡 where as it was babita who had put blinders on and Mini had to make her walk out of it. Naim bi was so right babita stayed in the marriage because she did not know & was insecure of where she would go. She was not strong enough to take care of mini & herself alone. Somewhere when Babita was telling all this i saw more of disbelief on minis face than guilt it was like even mini could see that she was conveniently putting blame on her & im glad naim bi stopped her at the right time before she could inflict more damage to mini.

i just wish mini has brought up how she had to let go of her dream college for babita . How she has had to become a mother to babita. If babita stayed with ashok then it was for herself also but here mini has sacrificed only for her .

Im not sure but i remember the psychologist telling babita on the lines of about how a child can blame self for his/her existence for her parent staying in a loveless marriage and babita did exactly that😒👎🏼

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

Not sure if this 100% applicable since both Minnie and HS have seen each other in pain and cry before but I feel like what HS said today was a callback to yesterday's diary moment. HS sees Minnie has his Veer Balika and Babes sees her as her daughter. It was Mickey who saw her as a person. Similarly, Minnie sees HS as her Hanuman Uncle, while Babes with her mind clouded with insecurities, isn't able to see him clearly. At the end of the day, we're all just trying to find that one person who will see us for us. Not as a relation to someone but the crux of who we are.

I understand what you mean, but keep in mind that no matter how much Minnie loves HS, she still has a longer history of sharing her life with her mother that outweighs the comparatively short duration she has spent with HS. I know the quality is greater than quantity, but all those years weigh on Minnie sometimes.

With HS, she hasn't had to pretend to be brave or act as a parent, the equation is totally different. Minnie is also becoming and adult, and it all goes back to what we have been saying about her needing to find her way in life without being burdened by having to mother Babita.

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

LOLL, hum kaha rok re hai. Tum jab chahiye likho aur publish karo, hum par lenge. 😎

Also, throwback to that one day when you were asking us all, "Mein likhu ya na likhu?" Aur hum sab seena parh ke chila re the, kuch toh likh de behen. 🤣🤣

I think just like HS, I had a mental block after that episode. The words have not been flowing since that day and I have had this heavy feeling in my heart.

But for some reason, as soon as I finished watching today's episode, everything flowed so naturally, as if something had been unlocked, just like HS' emotions were today.

Yeh show ne na humaara dimaag kharaab karke rakha hai.

Originally posted by: naq5

Somewhere when Babita was telling all this i saw more of disbelief on minis face than guilt it was like even mini could see that she was conveniently putting blame on her & im glad naim bi stopped her at the right time before she could inflict more damage to mini.

i just wish mini has brought up how she had to let go of her dream college for babita . How she has had to become a mother to babita. If babita stayed with ashok then it was for herself also but here mini has sacrificed only for her .

Im not sure but i remember the psychologist telling babita on the lines of about how a child can blame self for his/her existence for her parent staying in a loveless marriage and babita did exactly that😒👎🏼

Yes, Minnie had a look of disbelief. A few months ago, her reaction would have been far more emotional and guilt-ridden. It shows how much she has grown mentally under HS' care, seriously.

As for her dream college, I really really really hope HS discovers it accidentally or in some conversation Minnie brings it up, since he is going to take responsibility for helping her achieve her dreams and letting her fly.

I also remembered what the psychologist said about guilt trips that children go on because of such things. I think Minnie might need to continue her therapy if things don't go well after the wedding. It's not over yet.

I unfortunately have to wait for subtitles to get the true dialogue but the written update and forum has helped.

No child should ever have to bear the burden of parents issues. So many people stay in marriages for the sake of the children, even so it was still a choice you made, blaming kids for staying or leaving is a cop -out.

Having said that I still believe that Babita has to deal with so many emotions that she herself doesn't understand. For the first time she fell in love with someone and it scares her more than any emotions she felt with Ashok. The betrayal she felt with Ashok will never eve her. the test will be not transfer it to HS.

I am glad that HS character is strong enough to not accept her tantrums. I think it will be this strength that will build their relationship and break Babitas ego. I admire Minnie for the support she has given her mother and maturity she showed in many instances but she will never know the emotions her mother went through as she is still a child and have not really experienced love for a man YET😉.

Originally posted by: inlieu

I understand what you mean, but keep in mind that no matter how much Minnie loves HS, she still has a longer history of sharing her life with her mother that outweighs the comparatively short duration she has spent with HS. I know the quality is greater than quantity, but all those years weigh on Minnie sometimes.

With HS, she hasn't had to pretend to be brave or act as a parent, the equation is totally different. Minnie is also becoming and adult, and it all goes back to what we have been saying about her needing to find her way in life without being burdened by having to mother Babita.

I get that. Besides, we've only seen Minnie be in protective mother mode but surely there had been years where Minnie was the child while Babes was the parent. I guess she became so consumed about becoming Babes' parent in her formative years that the idea of finding herself again has become a bit daunting. And really, there's only so much that Minnie can do. At the end of the day, it's Babes' life and it's up to her to decide how she wants to live it.

Originally posted by: inlieu

I think just like HS, I had a mental block after that episode. The words have not been flowing since that day and I have had this heavy feeling in my heart.

But for some reason, as soon as I finished watching today's episode, everything flowed so naturally, as if something had been unlocked, just like HS' emotions were today.

Yeh show ne na humaara dimaag kharaab karke rakha hai.

Loll, I think we're all just really in tune with HS' emotions. Jaise woh feel kar the hai, waise hi hum. 😆