Hanuman Singh's flaws

We've talked about the flaws of different characters but what about our Hanuman Singh?

The main one I can think of is his over-protectiveness that makes him feel he needs to push people away for their security, rather than let them decide for themselves if they want to be with him or not. This leads to him taking drastic decisions and using some harsh methods that hurt them, and himself. He is sensitive to others and knows exactly what to say and when, but he also uses it against people if he want to hurt them.

He had told Minnie that one must not hold on so tight onto their loved one that it causes suffocation. I think now, in the bid to avoid that at all costs, he sometimes goes to the other extreme, which is remain too far back. This might give the other person the impression that he is being standoffish.

He sometimes sweeps things under the rug, such as when mother-daughter do things to hurt him or take him for granted, often saying nothing. By keeping it bottled up, he hurts himself, and then it obviously has to come out at some point.

What would you guys say are his flaws?

I say he has his own dhai ke se ways to express himself loud and clear but when it is about a sincere conversation about his own feelings ... Even he needs a push.

He is a very defensive man too ... Remember when the whole Imarti topic started coming to the surface he never liked talking about it.

About his feelings for Babita ... He loved her from a distance but then fear and nervousness crept in his heart too when he realized that she is inching closer.

He has his flaws and faults but thanks to his maturity and experience cards ... He is able to keep them under wraps.

His capacity to love.

On one hand it's absolutely fantastic but on the other, because it's so deep, vast and all consuming, he fails to see how the other person is feeling. For example, his love for Imarti is so vast, he has made her an intrinsic part of himself. He can't separate himself from her even if he wanted to. Because of this, I doubt he will ever be able to completely move on from her like Babes has done with Ashok.

It's also because of his love that he has let both Babes and Minnie mistreat him and get away with it. He has scolded them for it and warned them about maintaining a certain level of discipline, but he hasn't actually done anything about it. Minnie now knows better but Babes still doesn't see it.

You mentioned pushing people away but I think that applies only to Babes and Minnie. They're new to his life and thus to his tragedies and problems too. If he truly pushed everyone away, then he would have done the same to Naeem Bi and Lala. In the recent case, he made the mistake of making the decision on Babes' behalf but prior to this, he has always let her decide things for herself.

Originally posted by: Cinnamon_Kisses

I say he has his own dhai ke se ways to express himself loud and clear but when it is about a sincere conversation about his own feelings ... Even he needs a push.

He is a very defensive man too ... Remember when the whole Imarti topic started coming to the surface he never liked talking about it.

About his feelings for Babita ... He loved her from a distance but then fear and nervousness crept in his heart too when he realized that she is inching closer.

He has his flaws and faults but thanks to his maturity and experience cards ... He is able to keep them under wraps.

I think keeping it under wraps is what causes problems sometimes.

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

His capacity to love.

On one hand it's absolutely fantastic but on the other, because it's so deep, vast and all consuming, he fails to see how the other person is feeling. For example, his love for Imarti is so vast, he has made her an intrinsic part of himself. He can't separate himself from her even if he wanted to. Because of this, I doubt he will ever be able to completely move on from her like Babes has done with Ashok.

It's also because of his love that he has let both Babes and Minnie mistreat him and get away with it. He has scolded them for it and warned them about maintaining a certain level of discipline, but he hasn't actually done anything about it. Minnie now knows better but Babes still doesn't see it.

You mentioned pushing people away but I think that applies only to Babes and Minnie. They're new to his life and thus to his tragedies and problems too. If he truly pushed everyone away, then he would have done the same to Naeem Bi and Lala. In the recent case, he made the mistake of making the decision on Babes' behalf but prior to this, he has always let her decide things for herself.

Very well said. His capacity to love can be somewhat intimidating for others, especially someone like Babita who feels insecure and unworthy of it. Yes, people can take him for granted too, but I think it's only mother-daughter that have managed to get away with it often because he has let them. Not sure others see this side of him at all.

I see what you mean about him pushing people away. I should have not generalized and made it more specific to recent events.

I think what happened during his time with Imarti made him realize he shouldn't suffocate people with his love, but it also means he has recently been somewhat wary of getting too close lest he do the same with mother-daughter. Of course, Minnie is as tough as he is, so she got through to him. Jaisa baap, waisi beti. Babita's situation is different of course.

Well honestly I am not able to think of any flaw😆but then I agree with you and others who have replied here. I feel his love is too deep and that has huge chances of him being hurt the most.. I mean it's great to see such love that he has for people around him.. and how he stood by two complete strangers and made them his family..but then same love can hurt him deep If not reciprocated in similar manner.. he might not show his hurt but he can be devastated inside ..he is vulnerable guy.. and the fact that he knows it ..he keeps his guards up..

Yes, he is vulnerable and that makes him defensive.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Very well said. His capacity to love can be somewhat intimidating for others, especially someone like Babita who feels insecure and unworthy of it. Yes, people can take him for granted too, but I think it's only mother-daughter that have managed to get away with it often because he has let them. Not sure others see this side of him at all.

I see what you mean about him pushing people away. I should have not generalized and made it more specific to recent events.

I think what happened during his time with Imarti made him realize he shouldn't suffocate people with his love, but it also means he has recently been somewhat wary of getting too close lest he do the same with mother-daughter. Of course, Minnie is as tough as he is, so she got through to him. Jaisa baap, waisi beti. Babita's situation is different of course.

See which side? Him being taken advantage of?

I watched yesterday's episode and while I considered it to be okay overall, I found him to be really stubborn on his stance of not wanting to put the first step forward. Yes, he has extended his hand towards her multiple times, but with baby steps, she too has approached him. The song dedication, her wanting him to stop drinking, cooking his favorite sabji, the tum pukaar lo scene - that was all her putting in some efforts as well. It was her way of testing the waters and seeing what the heck is going on with her and all these new desires within her.

While I liked Poonam quite a bit, I didn't agree with her in not having HS apologize to her. I don't expect it to be exaggerated as she suggested via him begging or grovelling at her feet. But I do expect him to acknowledge his mistake and apologize for saying them in the first place. And it wasn't out of anger that he did it either. He did it purposely. He wanted Babita to be hurt so that she goes away from him. Regardless of the intentions behind his actions, the fact remains that he did it knowing full well how his words are going to affect her and how she's going to react to them. That's not something that can just be swept under the rug so easily.

I completely understand him wanting Babes to take that first step but given the situation he has created, I don't side with him. He needs to apologize and make amends.

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

See which side? Him being taken advantage of?

I watched yesterday's episode and while I considered it to be okay overall, I found him to be really stubborn on his stance of not wanting to put the first step forward. Yes, he has extended his hand towards her multiple times, but with baby steps, she too has approached him. The song dedication, her wanting him to stop drinking, cooking his favorite sabji, the tum pukaar lo scene - that was all her putting in some efforts as well. It was her way of testing the waters and seeing what the heck is going on with her and all these new desires within her.

While I liked Poonam quite a bit, I didn't agree with her in not having HS apologize to her. I don't expect it to be exaggerated as she suggested via him begging or grovelling at her feet. But I do expect him to acknowledge his mistake and apologize for saying them in the first place. And it wasn't out of anger that he did it either. He did it purposely. He wanted Babita to be hurt so that she goes away from him. Regardless of the intentions behind his actions, the fact remains that he did it knowing full well how his words are going to affect her and how she's going to react to them. That's not something that can just be swept under the rug so easily.

I completely understand him wanting Babes to take that first step but given the situation he has created, I don't side with him. He needs to apologize and make amends.

I am wondering too, why is he taking so long for apologizing about that maryada speech? Regardless of his plans about any relationship with babita, apology is a must. I also don't recall any scene after that event where he showed any remorse for his words?

I honestly believe that any interaction between both should continue only after he apologizes. He has right to not to make any move, but he has to say sorry where it's due.

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

See which side? Him being taken advantage of?

I watched yesterday's episode and while I considered it to be okay overall, I found him to be really stubborn on his stance of not wanting to put the first step forward. Yes, he has extended his hand towards her multiple times, but with baby steps, she too has approached him. The song dedication, her wanting him to stop drinking, cooking his favorite sabji, the tum pukaar lo scene - that was all her putting in some efforts as well. It was her way of testing the waters and seeing what the heck is going on with her and all these new desires within her.

While I liked Poonam quite a bit, I didn't agree with her in not having HS apologize to her. I don't expect it to be exaggerated as she suggested via him begging or grovelling at her feet. But I do expect him to acknowledge his mistake and apologize for saying them in the first place. And it wasn't out of anger that he did it either. He did it purposely. He wanted Babita to be hurt so that she goes away from him. Regardless of the intentions behind his actions, the fact remains that he did it knowing full well how his words are going to affect her and how she's going to react to them. That's not something that can just be swept under the rug so easily.

I completely understand him wanting Babes to take that first step but given the situation he has created, I don't side with him. He needs to apologize and make amends.

By others seeing this side of his, I meant people outside his close ones. To outsiders he's an honest but tough cop.

I also agree that whether or not they have a relationship, or whatever signal Babita gives him or doesn't he has to apologize to her. Especially now that the situation has been sorted out, he has no reason not to. Even if they were to remain tenant-landlord or she were to leave, he owes her that out of basic decency, forget being a lover. I am speaking about his quota of amends... For sure, Babita has to fix some things too but that's not the scope of this topic.

Yes, I agree that he can't sweep things under the rug. This has hurt both of them in the past because they didn't talk about issues - they thought they were putting them behind and moving on, when in fact the issues were festering in their minds even much later as evidence by their front-door spat the other day.

I think he is being firm on the outside this time because he is afraid for himself and for her but is masking it with this whole "life is good as it is, I'm happy, etc." attitude. He is afraid to change the status quo and afraid he might lose control over his emotions again. The thing is, Babita doesn't know that he has decided not to make a move. So there's this pehle aap thing happening on both sides. I know people have had a go at Minnie in the past for her misbehavior with him and the fact that he put up with it, but of late she has done her best to more than make up for it. He was distant for a little bit but it was soon cleared up the moment she went to apologize.

I don't think he needs to wait for Babita to apologize or approach him or whatever. He is due an expression of apology, a direct one at that, and he should not carry this "debt" around, if you know what I mean. Bringing Pinku back into her life is not sufficient. It needs to be verbalized because the attack itself was verbal and extremely harsh. I want him to address all 3 fronts: Babita as a woman, as a mother, and as an entrepreneur.