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Posted: 4 years ago
#41

TBH its fun discussion, I really enjoy this conversation. I agree on mostly all points.


But there is one reality: Writers will keep Dhara & Gaumbi's sanskar and lecturing parts even if we like or dislike why? Shiny and Kinshuk ko screen space to dena padega na?


Think about it. If there is no lecturing and idle parivaar expectation. How Dhara and Gaumbi's character fit into this show?socho socho..!


Honestly , I dont mind if they run the show with Shivi and DevTa. Actually I would love that😉

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Posted: 4 years ago
#42

I think even though Rishita sometimes raise valid arguments but still the way she puts them across makes them invalid. Its also because of the way she was raised and does not realized that now she lives in a joint household and she has to adjust and of course not only her but other family members also which I see they are trying to.
Like for the pehli rasoi she can eat with Dev but does not mean that she will not cook for other family members. If someone newly married, refuse to cook for family member , I am pretty sure it will raise some concerns. She could have went with Dev just to sit and eat a little bit just forsake of eating together, given the fact that she refused to do the rasam. Then eat pizza that she made in her room with Dev.

With Krish entering the room without knocking was wrong. But i think it will take time to get used to that. But she did not have to be wrong. I am not married but I have seen sometimes in joint family there could be a lack of privacy.

Then with her fight with Raavi, i think point was valid that she was with her husband. But if someone else had entered instead of Raavi given that it an open space and everyone is free to walk around. Would she have reacted the same way. I think she is just looking selfish and not recognizing that wrong did happen with Raavi and in some way because of her.

From what it seems that she wants to live only with Dev and does not care about anyone else. It just doesn’t work that way in a joint family. And even if someone lives in nuclear family still I think it’s insensitive to not care about ur or ur partners family members.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: nushy1995

First of all, thank you for voicing out the obvious.


And no, you are not the only one. I too think they go overboard with their Sanskar and Parivaar Ka Taqat when the reality is different.


TBH, Rishita is a scapegoat for writers to promote Dhara and more importantly, the unity of Pandy Family. Otherwise not a single member of this family has ever opened up to her but they just assume she'll be melted by Dhara's kindness.


The biggest blunder had been going ahead with the marriage itself.


Dev gets a lot of bashing for being a mute spectator but he was the only one who actually foresaw what would happen if he and Raavi got married. Keeping his and Rishita's suffering aside, Raavi would never be happy.


Sure, Janardhan insulted Dhara and his sister (I can't remember her name) slapped Dhara. If you want to honor your Bhabi, don't marry Rishita. Why was it necessary to go ahead with the marriage? Even Dhara requested Gautam to tell Raavi everything but then they went ahead, circus happened and she emotionally blackmailed Shiva and gave Raavi's Mausa Ji the idea to blackmail the poor girl on the worst day of her life.


And now they are being hailed as saviors.


Keeping aside the crackling chemistry of Shiva and Raavi that everybody keep talking about, God forbids if a girl is married under such circumstances and to a guy who is brash and less educated, that marriage is bound to get doomed.


Coming back to Rishita, Gautam made it sound like they got together because of ShiVi. An innaccurate statement. Dev had no spine to begin with and the was Rishita claimed her right, on a normal day any girl with lowest self esteem would come out of her infatuation and call off the wedding herself as Raavi did. Heck! Prafulla herself wouldn't get her married to such a guy. But again, it's all Parivar Ka Pyaar they keep on harping about.


Shiva is another Namuna out there. Just because he respects Dhara doesn't mean everyone else will. Even Rishita is her bhabi. He hasn't shown one iota of warmth regarding her but she is expected to do Dhara Jaap all the time. This guy has no problem in shaming Dev about loving another girl. Why? Just because he doesn't have a personal life, can't anyone else have it?


The fact that these brothers can't keep their s**t together is evident by the fact that whenever they are left alone, Shiva and Dev fight. DEv can sulk on his own, Shiva can plot but they can't have a proper conversation and it's always Dhara or Gautam who has to come forward with a Belan/Chappal to reunite them.


Again a disfunctionality which is used to show how Dhara/Gautam is the thread to tie all together.


Like other members have mentioned here, it's easy to portray Rishita to be negative because she's not Sanskari and she is selfish and rude and everything else. I agree with them.


But if you remove the veil of Sanskar, Pandya family members are much more problematic than Rishita. At least she is what she is. She doesn't preach something which she doesn't herself believe in. Here people expect something but can't give the same respect to another because she was not Dhara bhabi's choice.

superb valid points..

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Posted: 4 years ago
#44

I think slowly Dhara will realise that her children are now grown up men and have to figure out their own issues. If she can tell this to Raavi to deal with her issues on her own, she can definitely tell her kids to grow up and deal with it on their own 🤷‍♀️

Hoping there is a character progression instead of villainizing one character for the other to be a saint

Originally posted by: chinnu_kaku

unity of parivar doesnt mean that the husband and wife shouldnt have some private time😊. to sit and eat dinner with the family is nice gesture but always going after devars to tell what they should do or not is annoying..they are grown up men amd should know how to handle their issues..everytime gaumbi or dhara has to make those brothers realise where they went wrong..but appreciate it for atleast they are pointing their brother's mistake. in normal.house hold,no one supports daughter in law and men are treated like saints..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: nushy1995



TBH, Rishita is a scapegoat for writers to promote Dhara and more importantly, the unity of Pandy Family. Otherwise not a single member of this family has ever opened up to her but they just assume she'll be melted by Dhara's kindness.


The biggest blunder had been going ahead with the marriage itself.


Dev gets a lot of bashing for being a mute spectator but he was the only one who actually foresaw what would happen if he and Raavi got married. Keeping his and Rishita's suffering aside, Raavi would never be happy.


Sure, Janardhan insulted Dhara and his sister (I can't remember her name) slapped Dhara. If you want to honor your Bhabi, don't marry Rishita. Why was it necessary to go ahead with the marriage? Even Dhara requested Gautam to tell Raavi everything but then they went ahead, circus happened and she emotionally blackmailed Shiva and gave Raavi's Mausa Ji the idea to blackmail the poor girl on the worst day of her life.


And now they are being hailed as saviors.






Shiva is another Namuna out there. Just because he respects Dhara doesn't mean everyone else will. Even Rishita is her bhabi. He hasn't shown one iota of warmth regarding her but she is expected to do Dhara Jaap all the time. This guy has no problem in shaming Dev about loving another girl. Why? Just because he doesn't have a personal life, can't anyone else have it?




Again a disfunctionality which is used to show how Dhara/Gautam is the thread to tie all together.


Like other members have mentioned here, it's easy to portray Rishita to be negative because she's not Sanskari and she is selfish and rude and everything else. I agree with them.


But if you remove the veil of Sanskar, Pandya family members are much more problematic than Rishita


There is a whole lot of difference between doing something in love , for other person's sake and being selfish. Pandya family is the former and rishita the later




In the whole marriage fiasco, dhara had her share of mistakes , for which she was apologetic. dhara wronged shiva and raavi and she was dishonest throughout the track.....The biggest fool was dev who couldn't tell the truth to raavi or rishita and was ready to marry raavi and ruin both their lives. Everything started with dhara mu that he loves raavi, she was reprimanded enuf for this and nobody is denying she was wrong. Gautam himself clarified to his mom that dev was the real culprit here..he was given a choice n dhara also tried to hook him up with rishita when she learnt the truth. Again, it was dharas mistake to suggest Shiva raavi marriage at that time but a lot was discussed , raavi was at the verge of suicide and everyone feared her life will be like Anita's. In conservative societies girl being rejected on the altar is a big thing ..to save the family honor of both families dhara suggested this..



Dunno why Shiva is being blamed , Shiva was the one who requested dev to tell raavi the truth ..that he doesn't love her but dev didn't.. dev made a conscious decision to marry raavi.....shiva doesn't have a problem with dev and rishitas love, he has a problem with rishita rubbing it on everybody's faces that she and dev are so much in love . Raavi is hurt by her useless comments and Shiva is just reacting to it . He is reminding dev in his own way ( which is rude I agree ) , that dev must be the one to explain rishita that their family means a lot to them.if this is not an ideal family then who is ? Ghum Parivar? 😆 Everyone except rishita is fighting for each other's happiness , not theirs.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#46

The couples and individual dynamics need to evolve. Gaumbi-Dhara don’t have to interfere for them to be appealing. Surely, there are different ways to keep them occupied 😆

Originally posted by: tintin1234

TBH its fun discussion, I really enjoy this conversation. I agree on mostly all points.


But there is one reality: Writers will keep Dhara & Gaumbi's sanskar and lecturing parts even if we like or dislike why? Shiny and Kinshuk ko screen space to dena padega na?


Think about it. If there is no lecturing and idle parivaar expectation. How Dhara and Gaumbi's character fit into this show?socho socho..!


Honestly , I dont mind if they run the show with Shivi and DevTa. Actually I would love that😉

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Posted: 4 years ago
#47

So many people who watched the original had mentioned that Rishita’s character is actually a different perspective thrown into the traditional family dynamics and she makes sense always and audience actually feel for her.


Idk why in Hindi makers didn’t take that route. They can tone down her bratty attitude and can put across her points in much mature way, it would be refreshing


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Posted: 4 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: HanaKB


And what's wrong with listening to your wife or acting like a girl?

What could possibly be wrong? Suman called gombi peticot chaap😆 They aren't biased ..

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Posted: 4 years ago
#49

Never apologise for your opinion 😆 No matter how long.

I wish we didn’t have to hate Rishita. Her character was a spice that could have been added in the right amount to showcase evolving family dynamics. Now she just comes across as a brat 🤷‍♀️ Koi kare toh kya kare?

Originally posted by: barbieflora

I concur with this.

I am from a nuclear family. We aren't too big on sanskar.

Most of the time we don't even have food together. That doesn't make us love each other any less.

I understand they have different traditions and views but I don't think it's fair to have such high expectations from Rishita since they know where she comes from.

I digress but I have to admit a lot of your points are valid expectations on Rishita's part.

She's a newly wed bride in her honeymoon period.

It's perfectly natural to want to spend alone time with her husband.

My problem with her is her behaviour. Or lack of empathy and tact to be precise.

She is a brat and if things don't go her way, she lashes out spewing vitriol at everyone.

She is tactless and hurtful and that is the reason why I am perfectly content hating her.😆

Apologies for the long rant 🙈

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Posted: 4 years ago
#50

Yeah, man. Why do they have to change it into a regressive plot? It would have indeed been refreshing to watch a mature Rishita put these valid points across maturely 🤷‍♀️

Originally posted by: Peanutbolt

So many people who watched the original had mentioned that Rishita’s character is actually a different perspective thrown into the traditional family dynamics and she makes sense always and audience actually feel for her.


Idk why in Hindi makers didn’t take that route. They can tone down her bratty attitude and can put across her points in much mature way, it would be refreshing


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