Episode Discussion Thread: 31st July - 4th August - Page 5

Originally posted by: .Avengers.

What exactly Ali saw? I mean camera angle looked like Neil sitting beside a sleeping avni (her closed eyes were showing) and he was making her wear mangalsutra...I mean in his delulu world it didn't occur to him that maybe Neil taking advantage? It was like a wake up call and it seemed as if his anger is directed towards avni (it was always toward her) and not Neil. In past I remember many times it was insinuated that he thinks Neil is trapping her in marriage. So...er not sure where did it come from.

From another angle (cap below, you can see that they blurred AvNeil and focused on Ali), it was clearly shown that Ali saw Neil making Avni wear the mangalsutra and mind you this happened after Neil told Avni that the moments she has given him were the most priceless moments of his life. So what would a normal person or Ali think? They will think that since now AvNeil have consummated their relationship ("best moments/best gift you have given me" dialogue and the whole situation might make them think that), Neil decided to make her wear the mangalsutra as they have become husband and wife in all senses.




@Blue 1, He knows Neil wouldn't do that, he knows him on a personal level, they are friends!, moreover there is nothing that would make him think that, don't forget he doesn't know Avni was sick only Rhea knows, and obviously he wouldn't think that Neil drugged her, Neil would never do that and Ali knows it, he knows Neil is an honest man and an honest cop as well!

@Blue 2, Ali was thinking that Neil was making Avni solve some of his family matters as in please bebe etc that's all, he didn't think Neil had feelings for Avni.

I am running out of words to describe these two and better people are describing them so won't say much. The body heat scene was done nicely, looked pleasing to eyes. Neil's dialogue what if something happens to you...no I won't let anything. Time and Time again and again it's shown symbolically that it's him who will hold onto the relationship. I thought if party blows he may walk out with avni but since Ali saved the day it looks like shweta/Rhea live to see another day. But I guess it's safe to assume shweta/Neil rift is coming soon. The precap is cute. Ab to no shyness touch each other however you want . Actually Neil never shied away from physical touch but avni was always the restricted one, even today during the teasing scene she cups his face and almost immediately withdraws.

Yes that was an aesthetically shot scene, his care for her, he loves her! obviously he can't afford to lose her or see her in pain and he will do all he can to save this relationship. For him, as long as she doesn't love someone else, he will try to win her little does he know that she has already fallen in love with him😆
Anyways, if these two ponder over it a little bit they will understand that the other person has feelings for them more than frienship, which friend would check you out Neil?! and which friend would flirt with you Avni?!, without forgetting the jelaousy, the long eyelocks, the nervousness...😆

So what exactly shweta thinking to do with birth certificate can someone elaborate? Also what shweta Ali talked in Cafe?

The birth certificate had Avni as Avni Ashish Mehta, which means a child recognized legally by the dad. It even had Ayesha as Ayesha Ashish Mehta which means she is the wife of Ashish Mehta, so even if Shweta wants to show it to others, the birth certificate just shows that Avni is actually a legally recongnized child 😆but maybe she wants to play on all what was being published on press in the past and that bebe read.

When Shweta went to Ali's Cafe she tried to brainwash him telling him that there is no better person who knows what's in Neil's heart better than her, that Neil doesn't love Avni, that he only loved Juhi, and that Avni is only Ali's bla bla.. She was playing on Ali's emotions and trying to coax him to fight for his love, for Avni!!

Ali has a fight going on between his heart and his brain, his brain tells him that there is something between AvNeil and his heart still wants to believe that he has a chance with Avni!

Gutter mind

- you gave me most beautiful thing last night. My mind immediately went to V card *ehm* Neil nothing happened so what exactly you talking about? Was it about feeling up the wifey?

@Haina?! a very misleading dialogue, how did you expect poor Ali not to misunderstand the situation!

About Neil, he was obviously mainly worried for his wife, he did it to save her and the poor guy had no ill intentions😆 but obviously holding your most cherished person in your arms so close during the whole night is a pleasant experience. I mean at an emotional level it's very priceless to him. Later he might remember it and think of it on a physical level too, eventually!😆 but at that particular moment the guy was shareef and this is why we love him.

- I know what I need to do, I will fight for avni by Ali. Since we know about olv it felt like Ali talking about doing right with avni and not letting anyone to hurt her. So if shweta trying to harm her he will fight on her team. Or is it his literal fight to win her, which is bollocks cause come on, tell her your feeling, and then find out if she reciprocate or not and then fighting...shit.

@Blue 3 Exactly, all his turmoil and doubts can get wiped in one second if he asks Avni in a straightforward way and tells her about his feelings.

I don't know how things will play exactly, maybe Ali will get carried away by his emotions and the constant brainwashing of Rhea and Shweta, but eventually after (as per OLV) he will back off and understand that he will hurt Avni and he will also be highly affected by Avni and Neil's affection towards him, as these two will fight amongst each other about who is Ali's best friend (I watched that in some OLV), that might make Ali see reason and he will understand his mistake of paying head to Shweta and even warn Shweta so that she doesn't hurt Avni, he might help Avni, AvNeil later.

- poor Ali. I feel for you but you come wayyy later on the list of "people I care about". What interesting is this is not even a love triangle. If this was another random ITV chick she would have been like "oh, he loves me and I hurt him. Imma comfort him" but avni will probably like "huh, love? I don't reciprocate, what you talking about?" As hyped I was for the triangle I am not anymore . He is a bit of a grey area and I hope he stays like that.

I liked it that they didn't butcher Ali's character nor they will do, they are keeping him human, I mean very believable, something that anyone in his place might do, he is a good person but he is very much in love, at the same time he knows the importance of friendship and AvNeil both are his friends.

I felt really bad for him in the scene where he saw AvNeil, poor guy, to see your dreams shatter is such a heartbreaking experience. He also deserves to be happy, I hope he finds someone who would really love him immensely and make him forget Avni.

Both the three deserve to be happy, I felt for Neil when he heard Ali and Avni's conversation post Dayavanti's drama when Ali told her she has no reason anymore to stay with Neil, and in the scene when Neil told her that she is free to leave and he went to the bathroom and couldn't even scream his pain and obviously I felt for him when he had that dream in the police station about Avni loving Ali.

I felt bad for Avni in yesterday's episode a lot, how much excited and happy she was to know what all Neil has planned for her just to shatter completely after having that dream.

Today I felt for Ali!!!

A song comes to my mind "Yeh pyaar tune kya kiya" from the pyaar tune kya kiya series, might just insert a button to hear it, the way I did yesterday for "Nahin hona tha" 😆

- that was curtain Neil wrapped avni with. I thought table cloth 😆

- shweta going like pata nahi Kya hua Kal raat...um to quote Neil "Roop mastana, pyar diwana...and kaand." Two hot blooded gorgeous people together on a rainy romantic night, what do you think will happen? *Eyeroll* you did this woman,ab bhugto. Not that AvNeil could not have done "it" inside their bedroom.

I wonder if Shweta can ever be redeemed, she genuinely thinks that Ananya is the source of all troubles, for her whenever Ananya was present somewhere, a hungama happened which was not false, also Ananya sat in the mandap and married Neil by means of deceit, so I see where she comes from but I can never agree with her ways: Tarnishing someone's reputation or judging them on the basis of their birth/class etc, afterall even if Avni is najayez she has no fault at that, also using someone and playing with their feelings (Ali)! Moreover she doesn't take her son's opinion about all this, does she think her son is dumb or he can't judge by himself what's better for him?!, or does she think that despite him solving the important cases, in a woman's chakkar he won't be able to make a good judgement!!! still, I hate it when others take decisions for grown up people! you can advice them, explain your perspective to them but you have no right in making the decision at their place especially resorting to such cheap tricks. I would have respected her more had she been straight on your face about what she thinks and wants !

- END OF THEIR EHSAAN NONSENSE!! hallejujah!!!

Seems Neil doesn't bother anymore about the word ehsaan, it doesn't hurt or irritate him anymore!

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We belive in equality ryt guyz 😆
So now its avni's turn to do some ehasan on neil privately 🤪

Originally posted by: arshisfan

From another angle (cap below, you can see that they blurred AvNeil and focused on Ali), it was clearly shown that Ali saw Neil making Avni wear the mangalsutra and mind you this happened after Neil told Avni that the moments she has given him were the most priceless moments of his life. So what would a normal person or Ali think? they will think that since now AvNeil has consummated their relationship (best moments/best gift you have given me dialogue and the whole situation might make them think that), Neil decided to make her wear the mangalsutra as they have become husband and wife in all senses.



Ah ok, thanks for clearing...ohh man, major cringe alert if that's what he felt/thought. Also, if this is true then maybe he won't be as driven to confess as he was before cause she surrendered to her new relationship and it won't make a difference. I think? For a second Ali was angry/disgusted and it felt as if he thought Neil talking advantage, then he backed off the khamoshiyan started playing.

@Blue 1, he knows Neil wouldn't do that, he knows him they are friends, moreover there is nothing that would make him think that, don't forget he doesn't know Avni was sick only Rhea knows, and obviously he wouldn't think that Neil drugged her, Neil would never do that and Ali knows it, he knows he is an honest man and an honest cop as well!

@Blue 2, Ali was thinking that Neil was making Avni solve some of his family matters as in please bebe etc that's all, he didn't think Neil had feelings for Avni



During that Mitali track when avni didn't come out house and Neil made her promise to stay inside yes he did think Neil controlling her. But his frustration was always there wrt avni that since this was a fake marriage why she's doing things what a wife/DIL supposed to do. More than Neil his expectations is fro avni and in a way she has been disappointing him from the day she returned. He probably thinks avni has feelings for Neil.

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Yes that was an aesthetically shot scene, his care for her, he loves her obviously he can't afford to los her or see her in pain and he will do all he can to save this relationship, for him as long as she doesn't love someone else, he will try to win her little does he know that she loves him too 😆
Anyways, if these two ponder over it a little bit they will understand that the other person has feelings for them more than frienship, which friend would check you out Neil and which friend would flirt with you Avni, without forgetting the jelaousy, the long eyelocks, the nervousness...😆



Lol tis is classic Desi trope...like with this so called "friend" or no name Wala relationship they will have things which probably even people in relationship don't do, like romancing in shower, falling on each other and long eye locks, fear to lose other person, etc etc. I wonder how they justify these things, ok attraction maybe they chalk it up to hormones but rest??? Come on man😆

Also looks like Neil is over the jealousy of Ali/avni. Good for our man. Fandom can collectively sigh with relief that no "butchering" happened of Ali. We are obsessed with this word😛

The birth certificate, had Avni as Avni Ashish Mehta, which means a child recognized legally by the dad, it even had Ayesha as Ayesha Ashish Mehta which means she is the wife of Ashish Mehta so even if she wants to show it to others it just shows that Avni is actually a legally recongnized child 😆but maybe she wants to play on all what was being published on press in the past and that bebe read

Lmao what the...so indirectly she doing avnis naamkaran?????😆😆also won't it raise too many questions

- how come neela happily raised this kid of her so called sautan?

- how come Rhea was silent for so long or even dayavanti.

- if neela is happy with avni that' means whatever bs news wrote about Ashish/ dusri aurat was wrong and possibly neela did the bigger ting by leaving him.

So in a way she's paving way for avni for fixing her past and now world may accept her as legal Mehta /Khanna heiress😆😆 also once the thing comes out people will ask questions and real truth will come out. Like come on, who will believe news paper when real source of story neela is right there?

When Shweta went to Ali's Cafe she tried to brainwash him telling him that there is no better person who knows what's in Neil's heart than her and that Neil doesn't love Avni and that he only loved Juhi, and that Avni is only Ali's bla bla, she was playing on his emotions and trying to coax him to fight for his love for Avni!!
Ali has a fight between his heart and his brain, his brain tells him that there is something between AvNeil and his heart still wants to believe that he has a chance with her!


Acha how come mataji didn't think about juhi when she was shoving Rhea down his throat? Granted he went along with it but she didn't even notice he was not enthusiastic or happy like whaaa... Throughout all rituals he was running after another chick and basically insulted his would be in laws and mom multiple times. She was happy to get him married with this criminal family when she could very well had a drama with Neil and ask him point blank about pics and Neil would also understand how kamina Mehta family was and this wedding would not have stretched at all. Also juhi is gone and is she honestly blind not to see Neil is so happy with avni? I mean the girl left and he was an wreck. I am trying to find redeeming quality about her but no far zilch. Nada. Also it's interesting Neil is obviously a kid who does what he feels and stayed away from family in his little apartment with his work, it's obvious she may have tried to make him do things she felt was right for him but he never did, so why trying now?

Whatever happened wrt mehtas and ananya being there is null and void since it came out they all were criminals, so I seriously don't get her.

Ali's brain overtaking him so good!

@Haina?! a very misleading dialogue, how did you expect poor Ali to not misunderstand the situation

About Neil, he was obviously mainly worried for his wife and he did it to save her and the poor guy had no ill intentions😆 but obviously holding your most cherished person in your arms so close during the whole night is a pleasant experience. I mean at an emotional level it's very priceless to him. Later he might remember it and think of it on a physical level too, eventually!😆but at that particular moment the guy was shareef and this is why we love him.



Lol you have a very sanskari pov about the dialogue and it makes me realize that yes maybe he thought about it like that'. I mean there was nothing good about this night, there was a landslide and he had to leave this criminal, then avni acting weird and falling sick.

Ali- sorry but this is 🤣

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@Blue 3 Exactly, all his turmoil and doubts can get wiped in one second if he asks Avni in a straightforward way and tells her about his feelings
I don't know how things will play exactly, maybe Ali will get carried away by his emotions and the constant brainwashing by Rhea and Shweta, but eventually after (as per OLV) he will back off and understand that he will hurt Avni and he will also be highly affected by Avni and Neil's affection towards him, as these two will fight amongst each other about who is Ali's best friend (I watched that in some OLV), that might make Ali see reason and he will understand his mistake of paying head to Shweta and even warn Shweta so that she doesn't hurt Avni, he might help Avni, AvNeil later.

He's not going to help with the birth certificate cause it hurts avnis reputation and he won't let that happen. I think he's focusing on breaking off the marriage cause as a woman even if it's a fake marriage the shadow will loom over her head, so once she's free he can go ahead with it. His all motivation is mainly towards breaking the marriage and confess later cause he's like avni Kahan jayegi, mere pass rahegi...which is exactly why Rhea shweta using him.

I liked it that they didn't butcher Ali's character nor they will do, they are keeping him human, I mean very believable, something that anyone in his place might do, he is a good person but he is very much in love, at the same time he knows the importance of friendship and AvNeil both are his friends.

I felt really bad for him in the scene where he saw AvNeil, poor guy, to see your dreams shatter is such a heartbreaking experience. He also deserves to be happy, I hope he finds someone who would really love him immensely and make him forget Avni

Both the three deserve to be happy, I felt for Neil when he heard Ali and Avni's conversation post Dayavanti's drama when Ali told her she has no reason anymore to stay with Neil, and in the scene when Neil told her that she is free to leave and he went to the bathroom and couldn't even scream his pain and obviously I felt for him when he had that dream in the police station about Avni loving Ali.

I felt bad for Avni in yesterday's episode a lot, how much excited and happy she was to know what all Neil has planned for her just to shatter completely after having that dream

Today I felt for Ali!!!

A song comes to my mind "Yeh pyaar tune kya kiya" from the pyaar tune kya kiya series, might just insert a button to hear it, the way I did yesterday for "Nahin hona tha" 😆

Lol post the song, never heard it. I think. Ali was always realistic to me, even when he went overboard I could get where he was coming from. He as an ally will be amazing. Maybe mitali can come back, they makes cute couple.

Ali - I feel he does love avni, but not in love with her. Avni is his idea he formed in last 15 yrs and he can't match that avni with this avni standing in front of him and it's clouding his judgment. He longed for his friend and waited for her, and it's love, and he nay do all those things a lover expects from another, but it doesn't feel like love. Idk.

God neils breakdown in washroom scene was heartbreaking!

I wonder if Shweta can ever be redeemed, she genuinely thinks that Ananya is the sources of all troubles, for her whenever Ananya was present somewhere, a hungama happened which was not false, also Ananya sat in the mandap and married Neil by means of deceit, so I see where she comes from but I can never agree with her ways: Tarnishing someone's reputation or judging them on the basis of their birth/class etc, afterall even if Avni is najayez she has no fault at that, also using someone and playing with their feelings (Ali)! Moreover she doesn't take her son's opinion about all this, does she think her son is dumb or he can't judge by himself what's better for him?!, or does she think that despite him solving the important cases, in a woman's chakkar he won't be able to make a good judgement!!! still, I hate it when others take decisions for grown up people! you can advice them, explain your perspective to them but you have no right in making the decision at their place especially when resorting to such cheap tricks, I would have respected her more had she been straight on your face about what she thinks and wants !

I think she thinks that tillu. Gone mad cause ladki ka chakkar. Rem she saw that board filled with ananyas pics and was like if he's in love with her. So if she's still sticking to that she nay think avni trapped Neil from day1 and he's being zoru ka gulam.she was never straight on her face so it's expected. Dragging Ali is like low blow. And about her judging avni based on khoon khandan...it's sad reality of society. We are all judges by our parents so fine, I don't really mind.

If Neil walks out of that house (which j so want cause I want his apartment set back) she may probably see sense or have a compromise with avni

- END OF THEIR EHSAAN NONSENSE!! hallejujah!!!

Seems Neil doesn't bother anymore about the word ehsaan, it doesn't hurt or irritate him anymore!

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I think I'm going to have to rewatch this episode some more. I can't get enough of our cute lover-boy neil

@Avengers

Ri, If Ali thought that Neil was taking advantage of Avni, I suppose he would have faced him then and there. It was clear to him that it was mutual 😆, He said this is not my Avni, she was in Neil's arms and he made her wear mangalsutra.

Little does Ali know that if it's for the kaand (as you call it), it didn't happen, but a much stronger bond is there between AvNeil which is LOVE and that's a bond you can't break easily.

I still think Ali will do nothing to break their marriage unless he is really convinced that they don't love each other.

About Neil, obviously there was something good about that night, despite all the bad things and the tension he went through especially for Avni's health, it was the first time his wife spends night in his arms! Holding your loved one so close is something big na?! I point it out at an emotional level and not at a physical level because it doesn't always need to be like that, I don't think Neil would think about that at a physical level while his loved wife is in such a condition! But as they say all is well that ends well, so I guess once he sees she is fine, he must have enjoyed the whole experience of being so close to his lady love. I guess even men would find it nice to protect their ladies, so Avni was there in his arms safe and sound, he made sure nothing happens to her.

Actually I want the whole truth to come out, till when it will be hidden and truth is truth, so no problem. Avni was always proud of herself, she doesn't need a naamkaran, her identity is what she is as a human being with some nice qualities and even if she does then she has the Avni Neil Khanna one, and she can be proud of it, proud of being the wife of such a good human being who loves her and respects her for what she is and not for her name.
Even if the society cliches come to play here about the naam khoon and khaandan, Neil will be there for her, I actually imagine a scenario where they will leave the Khanna house to go to his Bachelor pad. I really want that and I feel at some point it will happen, I just don't know what will be the situation exactly.

Also as I said, this whole drama might play positively and give Avni her naamkaran. I didn't watch the show pre-leap, but I think this birth certificate is a way from Ashish Mehta to redeem his mistakes. So Shweta's plan might backfire and actually solve Avni's problem, she will no longer have to hide her identity from bebe and Prakash.

I feel if there is something that might be a problem between AvNeil it will be case 123 because it will put Neil in the position of love vs duty! The rest of things, I really trust our cop, even in case 123 I trust him, I know he will know to handle it without compromising on his principles and Avni herself will help at that.


About the song "Pyaar tune kya kiya", it's so lovely and it has many versions, it's the title song of a series of the same name, it's an episodic series of Zing TV, each season of it had a theme (fairytale season, tragedy season, college love season...), it explored the different facets of love where at times it can be positive and at times destructive, love faced to circumstances (religion, race, social class, values..) and it also shows all what people can do in love and the extremes they can go to.

I adored them, they are so beautiful


This is 2014's version

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H2oyyXDtTM[/YOUTUBE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H2oyyXDtTM

Lyrics

Jo chaha tha tune kiya
Jo manga tha tune diya
Bhale hi honge hazaroon dushman
Par mera saath jo tune diya
Khabi johd diya, khabi tod diya
Khabi rasta mera mod diya
Iss nafrat bhare zamane mein
Meri yaar tune kya kiya
Yeh pyaar tune kya kiya
Yeh pyaar tune kya kiya


This is the 2015 version of the song

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC84vJf0xeU[/YOUTUBE]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC84vJf0xeU

Ab toh dikhe hai
Naam tera hi
Labh pe mere

Pyar tune kya kiya
Khwab dil ko, naya de diya
Pyar tune kya kiya
Khwab dil ko, naya de diya

Hum toh chupke
Tum ko dekha karte hai
Baatein teri
Bas socha karte hai

Hum toh chupke
Tum ko dekha karte hai
Baatein teri
Bas socha karte hai

Dil kehta hai
Sun ja tu humnava
Dil ke aangan mein
Aaja na ek dafa

Tera hi chehra ab toh dikha hai
Naam tera hi, lab pe mere

Pyaar tune kya kiya
Khwab dil ko, naya de diya
Pyaar tune kya kiya
Khwab dil ko, naya de diya

They have another beautiful song but tell me first whether you like the ones I posted above, I personally love them

The 2nd one sounds like ek mulakat ho, and I love that song too.

Yes the second song's melody is the same as "Ek mulaqat" even the singer is the same Jubin Nautiyal. I guess the copyrights are owned by Zee which owns Zing too I guess, so there was no problem in taking the melody.

I liked the song you posted Ri 😊


1-A song of what Neil should do, it's a song by Brian Adams, I know he already does a lot of the things in the song but he needs to let her know

"Have you ever really loved a woman" (by Brian Adams)

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq2KgzKETBw[/YOUTUBE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq2KgzKETBw

2- From Neil to Avni

Everything I do I do it for you (By Brian Adams)


[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGoWtY_h4xo[/YOUTUBE]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGoWtY_h4xo

3- From Avni to Neil

Because you loved me (By Celine Dion)

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT9BN52SUZk[/YOUTUBE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT9BN52SUZk

Give them a try, the lyrics are nice and meaningful and the melodies are soothing.

I know it will take time till our protagonists say that to each other but song 2 and 3 I feel really suit them.

Ep 254, 1st August

The loving caring husband had to go for body heat formula as a final resort to help his dear wife who was shivering when all the other options seemed to fail (no network, no one arround, landslide...). Obviously this meant to get close to her, very close actually, he knew she wouldn't be comfortable with that, but what mattered to him was to save her life. The way he was worried and at the same time determined to let nothing bad happen to her as he can't stand the idea of something happening to her, hence he held her tight under the blanket with their bodies having the minimum of clothes I supose as I don't think he will keep the wet saree and blouse while giving her body heat, so maybe just underwears. Now imagine how much would that be difficult and awkward for a young man in love to be in such an intimate position with his beautiful wife. Neverthless, our man had as a priority his wife's wellbeing.

On a light note, one would think that the way he behaved in the morning, being so happy, looking lovingly at her and praising her beauty as well as the beauty of everything there, tucking the rebellious strands of her hair behind her ear, thanking her for the gift she gave him in the form of the priceless moments they spent together is similar to the way a man who had a passionate fulfilling night with his love, would behave! Glad Ali didn't come at night, otherwise he would have gotten a heart attack at the visuals he would have seen !! Indeed, appearances can be very misleading, even I,when I watched for a second time, couldn't help but notice and admire the way they looked and despite it being something like a mouth to mouth rescuscitation or cardiac massage which are basic aid gestures for people in a case of emergency, it looked intimate, is it Neil's emotional state?!, he had tears in his eyes, he was scared for her, is it their beauty, the way he cuddled her tightly under the blanket or a part of their bare shoulders showing?!, I don't know, but in the second time I watched the scene I thought indeed it might give ideas to anyone.

Anyways what matters to me is the emotional connect and they have it I guess, Neil really loves her, respects her and admires her, now if uperse they look good, what's my fault ?!

For Neil it would have been an important/priceless moment to hold the person he loves most in his arms during the whole night, to protect her and be there for her while she needs him. It's also the first time she spends the night so close to him, unske dil ki kareeb not that she isn't anyways but now in all sense she is very close to his hear! So yes as Mandy said in another post it was romantic and intense!

The morning scene was nice, it had many beautiful details like the way he stood in front of her to prevent the sun rays from disturbing his sleeping beauty, the way he covered her with that curtain cum blanket, so much care and tenderness. He said everything is beautiful and so she is but there is something missing and he took the mangalsutra out, then he clearly explained that he is doing her no favor, whatever he did he did it for her, he did it because his heart told him to, because he wanted to, he did it for her, only and only for her. Now, does that remind you of the song I posted in my previous post (everything I do I do it for you). He also understands her, he knows she wants to tell him thank you, and is trying to but she just doesn't seem to be able to do it, and to really love a woman you need to understand her and know her deep inside (the other song I posted lol), maybe he doesn't know why she reacts the way she does but I'm sure deep inside he is very well aware that she is not indifferent to him, why would a man flirt with a woman he know can't be affected by him. With time I'm sure he will cle arly understand that she loves him and he will make her confess, I can easily imagine how Neil once he understands that she loves him, will tease her just the way he did when he wanted her to persuade him to go to honeymoon.

And in her sleep, Avni was only thinking about Neil and what to tell him, not about the wedding anniversary of her saas and sasur according to what she said when she woke up. The way he leaned very close to her and told her that we just say thank you as simple as that, it was his way to say that she doesn't need any formalities with him. Then he gifted her a mended mangalsutra, which means anything that break in their relationship he will make sure he join it together again be it a mangalstra or a heart as he said in the precap, actually he even said that he won't let her heart break, as long as it is in his hand this man will never let her suffer. He is taking serious steps and she should also understand, if Neil does really think about this marriage as a burden or a pretense, why would he take the time to get the mangalsutra fixed and make her wear it himself ?!! I hope she gets the clues. He is getting the clues she gives, as in her efforts to be on good terms with his mom, he can understand why she stayed for bebe, but why would she want to work on her relationship with Shweta knowing that the latter never liked her. This guy is really happy with the moments she spent with him, for him these are the most priceless moments of his life and the best thing that she could have given to him. Her mere company for him is a bliss and a blessing, he doesn't ask for more (well at the moment No lol), but it shows how much he is very patient, he wants to give her her time, he knows very well all what she has been through in her life, what she thinks about love and marriage, he is just happy with whatever progress she is making. In their frienship equation, they share a lot of comfort, it's actually surprising how they talk about the kaand and tease each other about it, while when things get serious they both get nervous and serious !

Ali obviously witnesses the scene, actually some important parts of it which can be very misleading, especially the dialogue of Neil telling her that the moments she spent with him are the best gift she could have given him, add to that the mangalsutra part and the guy thinks that AvNeil have become husband and wife in all senses.

I felt sorry for Ali, really, he was really heartbroken to see his dreams shatter, he is a nice guy he also deserves happiness. I hope he finds someone who would really love him and whom he would love as well. I mean childhood's love as you said Ri, isn't the real love, people change with time, and the Avni he knew as a child isn't the Avni of now despite her being still his good friend but that doesn't mean she will love him in another quality other a friend !

I also felt for Avni yesterday and for Neil in many instances. They all deserve happiness, Avni has lived some really traumatic experiences, it's time for her to embrace happiness, Neil is now over Juhi and deserves a second chance in love, especially for being the wonderful man he is.

Shweta is one ruthless woman the way she keeps playing with Ali's feelings, glad according to the new OLVs, he will stand against her for Avni, and he will understand the importance of friendship, there was a scene where Avni and Neil were fighting over who is Ali's best friend, I guess that will make him think about his friends and stop paying head to Shweta and Rhea.

I like Neil, the way he is sorted out and sure of what he wants, he is a nice blend of sensitive, strong, mature and firm. He is taking meaningful steps (mangalsutra and what he said about never letting her heart break) yet without shocking her, he is making her comfortable and assured yet he doesn't miss to flirt with her and play his charm.

P.S : Ignore typos and the lack of punctuation, I tend at times to type and type and I forget to punctuate.

I don't know if I made much sense or not, I liked the episode a lot, the growing bond between the two but I felt my review was not coherent.

By the way Avni forgot about the emotional turmoil she had at night as if it didn't happen, she seemed very relaxed in the morning! As per studies, hugs are a good to reduce stress and anxiety, they stimulate Oxytocin which is a neuropeptide, which basically promotes feelings of devotion, trust and bonding," so basically the hug not only helped giving her body heat which was important for her physical condition but all the love and warmth to overcome her emotional pain and release her stress and when it comes from someone who cares for you and loves you this much, it can be a real medecine!

Link to the article "The psychological benefits of hugging" (as per some studies)

https://www.sott.net/article/291786-The-physiological-benefits-of-hugging

Edited to add :

I also liked his line :"Acha laga ye sunke ki tum mujhe itna kareeb samajthi hoon ki ye sab share kar payi aur ye bhi ki tum gharwalo ki kareeb aana chahti hoon, issi bahane shayad hum bhi kareeb aa jaye"

And Avni will like the fact that he made her wear the mangalsutra as well as all the beautiful things he will tell tomorrow about mending the broken things whether it's a mangalsutra or a heart and never letting her heart break!

These two situations will make both reassured and relaxed, Neil is already relaxed but Avni also needed to get assurance after the dreadful dream she had.

Originally posted by: arshisfan

Yes, my username is named after the flower; you're so knowledgable! I apologise for not introducing myself properly, considering how many interactions we have had with each other on this forum!

My real name is Juhi, have you heard that name somewhere before? 😆

What is your name? 😊

I've always been more of a forum-lurker, even with shows that I have really enjoyed in the past. But with NK, I really wanted to get involved which is why I opened the EDTs. Like you said, it's a comfortable, centralised place to share your thoughts and ideas. And I completely agree, Avni's character has really been dumbed down post-marriage. I've grown so tired of the two-dimensional, abla nari type female protagonists, and so Avni was definitely a breath of fresh air! Do you follow any other Indian serials? 😊

A big thank you to everyone for their input on this thread; I love reading all the different interpretations, and opinions on each episode!

August 1st Episode

Favourite Moment: The fact that Neil expects absolutely nothing from his relationship with Avni was emphasised during the scene when he thanked her for giving him time, referring to this as the "best gift" he has received from her; this was such a simple but touching moment. Thoda sabar karo Neil, confession abhi baki hai (have a little patience Neil, the confession is yet to come); I'm sure that will be Avni's best gift to him! Additionally, whenever Avni talks about wanting to bond with Shweta, Neil's face lights up; for him, it's a sign of reassurance that she is not looking for a way out of the marriage, but instead is pushing forward to build relationships with those closest to him.

Significant Moment: Witnessing Avni and Neil together in this manner came as shock to Ali, but this was necessary for the story's progression. Slowly but surely, moments like this will lead to Ali accepting that Avni never was, and never will be his. The fragile pieces of his broken heart will pierce his soul, but better for this to happen now than later; nurturing dreams of being with Avni is futile, and the quicker he learns this, the easier it will be to overcome the heartache.

Furthering this, the navy blue colour Ali was wearing, reflected his state of mind, as blue is often symbolic of negative feelings such as pain and sadness. This is in comparison to the white colour on Neil, which is frequently associated with tranquility and hope. This is indicative of how emotionally both of these are on opposite ends of the spectrum. The lyrics of the background song perfectly matched the mood and tone of the scene: mera samay toh wahin pe hai thehra. At that moment, time did indeed stop for Ali; everything became a blur.

Worst Moment: Shweta playing with Ali's sentiments for her own benefit, was incredibly distasteful. Juhi's death heavily impacted Neil, and now when happiness is knocking on his door after all those years thanks to Avni, Shweta wants to take this away from him? How strange, considering she explains to Ali that a mother knows what is in their child's heart! Avni's plan to get Shewta and Prakashji remarried as part of their anniversary surprise (according to OLVs), is such a thoughtful gesture. I hope that Avni is not as forgiving this time, when she learns of Shweta's plans to drive her out of Neil's life.