Episode Discussion Thread: 31st July - 4th August

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Episode Discussion Thread: 31st July - 4th August


Welcome everyone!


This thread is a place for you to pen down your thoughts on each episode


For example:
* Predictions and expectations
* High and lows of the episode(s)
* General views of the episode(s)
* Thoughts on the progression of the story and character development

Please note:
* Discussions regarding the personal lives of the actors/actresses are not permitted
* Please refrain from swearing and using bad language

Let's begin!

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Posted: 8 years ago
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I will try to be active in this discussion thread :)
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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

@RI:

Girl you're on fire. I'm on lunch and it's winter! I won't go out coz I got a workmate to get me coffee! So here I am reading your comment!!
Oooh I love cold. Thanks 😛 when I go on a rant it's hard to stop.



OliCity fan club represent! I could feel the Rabba Ve between them right from the start! Lol Even when he was still hung up on his ex! I love hot guy Nerdy girls combo's. That's why I loved RumYa! Let's not go into how they were screwed! I think once Felicity said something to Ollie that sounded suggestive and fan girl like and Ollie was amused by it and she was embarrassed and tried to cover it up! That was the moment I shipped them. But I always loved the nerdy glasses look and smarts of Fecility and that bad boy turned vigilante hotness of Ollie. I'm not following the show anymore. Just no time! If you still are then have they done it? Lol


OMG Hi5. Yes, that "it's good to feel you inside me " 🤣 dude Laurel Ollie was toxic so I am glad that's done with. Rumya were so cute..ikr, fresh wound *sigh*. They done it and wedding coming soon
😛


Yeah the bodice rippers and the Darcy style anti heros! I am Mr Darcy's no 1 fan and he was a gentlemen. He never manhandeled women. He respected them. He was just proud and full of it! But his feelings for Elizabeth transformed him. He was always a good guy. This was never about being a bad guy. The bad guy was always Wickham who had all the charm but non of the character. But Darcy was the package and non of these losers who are so called Darcy modelled characters can even come close to Jane's Darcy! She was a genius! My favourite writer!


Yes you can understand how appalling it is . I am like Darcy,kidhar Kahan?😆🤢 not even .0001% of him yaar. And not even Wickham, atlst he had a sweet mouth. Ooh shyam was a Wickham, don't you think? Exactly, he had the past trauma but that was never his excuse for treating others like shit. He was a proud man and genuinely believed about class and all, kinda like shivay ka nkk. He was good man, respectful, and when he was in love he went to lengths for his lady love. That's why even after so many years it's a relevant book and favorite romance of all!

What I love about our hero Neil is that even in anger he shows control. He doesn't break things! (Pathetic action BTW). Even after the wedding when he was SO mad at her, he still showed restraint. Zain did one of his best jobs there. In fact I heard he said that was his favourite scene to do other than the recent Agni pariksha of females scene! Neil is not a guy who shows undue anger. He's a grown up, not a man child and he doesn't require saving! 3 things I like about him. Of course Zain's baby face makes him all the more lovable! :)


Neil does breaks things...like when he stayed over in 'ananyas' house after his accident and was pissed about something he broke the table. That was the only time I think? I m more like Bhai khud ko Jo Marzi karna ho Karo don't hurt someone else. That's just awful that you are so out of control you end up hurting someone. Take yourself away, cool down and set a plan to fix it what actually Neil did during the avni ka agnipariksha thingy. Yes, I loved how he was restraint after wedding. His hurt came across nice and he didn't hurt her.


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Originally posted by: arshisfan


Nice views Ri, I know you are appalled at all this but please can we avoid the swearing, it's a public forum afterall 😊


Oho you are one of the rule book...Chalo koi nahi I will bigaro you soon
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That bodice ripping the way you explained as in related to rape and non consensual sex is aweful!!! how can a woman forgive a man who made her go through such a traumatic experience and you said evil men so I suppose they do it being in their full senses right, not drugged or something, on purpose?!. It's very demeaning and traumatic to victims!!, staying single is one hundred times better than marrying a man who stripped you off your dignity. Alas in many regions people still compel a woman victim of rape to marry the rapist, it's like killing her on a daily basis!!

That was a typo, I meant the hero of book will do that...na na no drugs or any, maybe revenge, maybe cause he hates her. But this was a classic trope (ew). Yes, it's traumatic, and to add salt to wound now she will get married and slowly starting to have consensual sex and they will live happily ever after🤢 Society is so ignorant of a women's pain, all they care about "izzat"...sometimes makes me mad as to why I was born as girl and not man.

Andd for women who fall in love with such lowlives, I guess they must be suffering from the stockholm syndrome. Stockholm syndrome consists of "strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other." (wikipedia)

As you might have understood from the definition, it's definitely not a healthy thing, it's a serious phsychological disorder. Now that I think about it, the majority of soap heroines suffer from that disorder at different degrees!!

It is Stockholm syndrome, no denying. It's like someone torments you and heals the wound and then your psyche starts to think so what he hurt me, he heals me too. In a twisted way...or maybe those women in books were making the best of their situation? After all books were bases on medieval times...what do we know. Soap heroine, hell yes. I feel tv writing in very limited on the scale where you need to show two people interacting regularly to show their growing love. They either do the office romance where it's just Romance, no work, Or somehow does a hate marriage and makes them stay under same roof. I don't know why they don't try more realistic approach- dating, meeting through mutual friends, hell bumping into grocery store😆

I can't deny that I watched many shows having angry abuser young men, anti-heros, but only as a work of fiction, I take them as psychological cases, in no instance I would advice to have them in real life. Don't tell me there are really women who think such men
mennn who keep abusing them physically and emotionally) are their prince charming !! You might watch them see their story but in real life gentlemen like Neil, Kartik (yeh rishta) would win hands down. Real and reel are two different things. A woman should marry a man who would treat her as an equal, be her life partner her support system just the way she will be his, who would respect her for what she is, a human being with emotions and brain not a punching bag!




Innn no case I would condone abuse be it emotional or physical, a woman is capable enough to lead a life of dignity without a man, relying on her ownself. If a woman smells toxicity in her relationship then she should step out from it!

But yes I agree with you, maybe there should be some age restriction to indian shows, the way it is for american shows, afterall teenagers and children can get influenced and TV is a strong medium. Also there should be limits to what is called creative liberty, I heard recently about a show named Pehredaar piya ki, where a 9 years old from a royal family marries an 18 years old girl!

Man pehredar piya is one fresh pile of hot mess let's not even go there 😆


I don't know man... probably it's my limited experience regarding relationship and men, or maybe that's how you roll once you are into one, I have seen women who are matured, aged, has seen the world making excuses for these garbage dbags and drawing parallel to real life that how this this this compromise would bore this this this fruits. Most of the time I am baffled and trying to think ok, this is a fiction show so maybe they saying in the context of it, but when they starts mentioning real life I see red. I don't know. Being a girl from native place I have seen women doing extreme sacrifices for their family, good for nothing husbands, and also I have seen women who are like "screw this" and have walked out and family supporting them. Of course I want to see the second example more cause those stories gives strength to thousand other women outside who are in some serious problem and wants to see some Ray of hope. Let's face it, nobody wants to listen how you should "try to adjust" and "give it time" wrt a situation. This adjustment thing comes only for women, it's expected of us and maybe tv which is infamous as "trp auntie" genre who watch regressive shows should start showing some changes.


Edited by .Avengers. - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Ri, you think I'm a rule book😲, yaar we have already broken so many forum rules😆, I guess discussing other shows, and things other than Naamkaran on Naamkaran's forum is against rules 😆

But if you look at it and even for people who might join this thread later and wonder what are these people discussing on this page thanks to you Ri giving reply here in this thread to what was being discussed in the other thread😆I'd like to tell them that this is just in the general discussion of how Neil is different from the protagonists of some other shows where they justify the abuse and insults the main male character makes the main female character go through as an aftermath of his painful past and they show how the heroine will heal him with her love, and he keeps blowing hot and cold confusing the heroine and taking peace from her life!!!

So Ri (Avengers) was comparing what's being shown on indian soaps to the bodice ripping romance genre of books.

And she thinks along with Mandy (MrDarcyFan) how could they say that bodice ripping is inspired from the classy character of pride and prejudice Mr Darcy who wasn't manhandling or abusing women while the protagonists from some indian shows and bodice ripping romance novels do!


Did I get it right Ri and Mandy, this is what you meant, right?!!

Anyways conclusion is that in no way emotional and physical abuse should be promoted as romance, women should stand for themselves and stay only with a life partner who would respect them and love them.

In Naamkaran, we feel Neil fits the bill and promotes the nayi soch, let's hope they don't butcher his character

Edited by arshisfan - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hi guys,
This is Shonali! That's a lovely discussion thread :)
Analysis posted by members here are on point!
Would love to discuss here too
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@RI:
Yes I forgot that scene where Neil broke a stool or something? LOL. Yes after the wedding he was so angry upset hurt, you name it. You could see it ALL in that scene. He felt used. He felt cheated. I think he took it even worse coz it was Avni who did that to him. He had just started to trust her and she double crossed him again.


But I also loved Aditi in that scene when Neil told Avni "Tum Ek jhooti aur makkar kisam Ki ladki ho". I felt Aditi's tears were actually real when she said "Main Kya hu, tum kabhi samaj nahi paoge Neil". Even I cried during that scene. So if she was really crying I wouldn't be surprised. Even her hurt and sadness was so obvious in that scene. This is a girl who probably didn't even want to get married, and she had to get married to get her revenge on her grandma, by stopping her cousins' wedding. Must have been so damned hard for her. But she did it.


In that scene they were BOTH right in their places. That's what I have always loved about AvNeil. In each given situation where they find themselves at loggerhead, they are each occupying a position that is true to them and not incorrect or invalid in each of their POV's. There is no clear right or wrong person there. That makes their equation all the more interesting.


Ollie and Felicity are getting married? OMM! This should be good! How much I missed. I bet their consummation was hot? They waited long enough for it I guess? LOL
Edited by MrDarcyfan - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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BM!
So yeah here we have new thread wow!!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Good episode. Riya only flopped her plan by calling Ali.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Neil being saviour of avni in each step i am loving the character of neil very much ❤️
I am missing initial shade of avni who is always been one step ahead of her enemies...

Avneil should open up and talk about thier relation ship ... rather than making false assumptions about each other..

I just hate ali ... he dosent deserve friendship of avni 😡
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Posted: 8 years ago
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It was interesting that Rhea called Ali when her room caught fire not that I am complaining, I was happy to see their plans flop.

Neil and Avni sure let their imaginations get the best of them but I love that we are getting insight into their fears and love for each other

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