A bit too much isn't it ? - Page 4

Originally posted by: cjs369

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

but IMV is totally a authoratian prsn who doesn't respect oder ppl's feelings!! .

Dolly i wudn't exactly say that . I will give u my reasons , ok .

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All the people in his house , with the exception of Siddarth r living life exactly the way they please. And he allows them to .

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Motilal Master has his own big room and he does Saraswati worship there , lives life on his terrms , goes for romantic walks with his wife ...........I dont see him adjusting AT ALL............rite from eating his gathiyas to romancing Baa

and why shud he adjust just 4 the whims of IMV??did IMV consider oders feelings as sum worth??and watever his father is doing isn't harming him or his image in the outer world. so why shudn't he remain like he pleases??and just 4 this reason how can IMV not allow them 2 live like they wanted!!

Baa is a very strong woman who doesn't hesitate to give her son a tongue lashing when she chooses to speak her mind . She left house when she chose to and came back when she chose to . I dont see her adjusting AT ALL .

and baa is adjusting its only ur perception as ur finding IMVs actions as reasonable.and baa only came back 2 save devki from IMV's malicious intentions!!

Charu does her Guru worship and manages two ashrams using her husbands money . He allows her to do this social work by using his money , he doesnt interfere in her life .I have not seen him throwing her Gurus photo out or the sandals she worships out and refusing to allow her to go to those ashrams. Charu also is a strong woman who doesnt hesitate to speak her mind to him .

yeah charu is doing wid his money & why can't she?? shes his wife & he'd married her 4 money & that money gave him initial sustenance & support 2 establish such a big empire later on!! and if shes doing sumthing gud of his money why shud he object!! and in this way he can uphold his image of benevolent patriarch which is essential 4 his business & share mkt!!

Rajvi shops unlimitedly using credi cards on Viranis account . I dont see IMV scolding her in ANYTHING . Infact he encouraged her to manage an event when he was plotting badnami of BB . He rather likes his bahus doing other stuff besides kitchen kitchen the whole day .

rajvi is doing shopping. why shud he object? wats use of this money if he won't allow her bahus & betis 2 spend it on themselves!! and by this hes able 2 show 2 world his richness!!

Devki has got permission to keep Ganesh idol , he personally doesnt believe in God but he does evaluate the debate before giving final judgement . He wants her to do business and not waste her talent by just doing kitchen work .

he allowed her after baa told him that its the idol which devki's mother worshipped & bcoz he has still sum feelings 4 her mother he didn't say anything.and here hes bit human!!

Siddarth ...........well , perhaps he was kinda forced to join business instead of becoming an artist . But look at it from his POV .........he is a tycoon and he will hand over a legacy to Siddarth and Vaibhav . Surely Siddarth can do business and yet paint as a hobby in spare time ? Or if he uses creatrive ideas to enhance business , im sure IMV wont mind it .

but why not paintinga s his profession & business aa a hobby? vaibhav has interest in business so theres no quesn that he did wrong. and if it was possible thta sid can paint as a hobby then it wud've been shown but i think IMV has objections 2 it also!!thatswhy he hasn't allowed him 2 paint even as a hobby!!

Vaibhav inherited his Dads love for business so no force there . Yes , his affair with Sabina was snuffed out by IMV but frankly , he had his reasons .

imv may've his reasons but they r not acceptable if humanity is taken in consideration. and no parent or human has the right 2 decide oders life & its priorities 4 them!!imagine if IMVs's father'd stopped him doing wat he wanted or baa hadn't allowed him 4 it wud u'd justifie dtheir actions??no i don't think so.

Manhar's family left the house so Sonal shud become a teacher . IMV frankly told her that ok , if u want to be a teacher although I am willing to give u better opprtunities , fine , but go and do it on ur terms .No point in staying in an AC mansion and opting for a simple paying profession .If u want to experience that life .........go , REALLY experience it . Fair enough , right ?

he wanted 2 give better oppurtunities not bcoz he trult wanted but that was 4 2 satisfy his ego & not out of the respect 4 his bro & his ideals or evn sonal's feelings.a nd even wen he asked her 2 join sum big institute then 2 his intentions were 2 make ita business & wen educn is made purely a business like IMV does then wat"ll b the future of nxt generation!!

But he does invite them for all functions and even asked them to come back .Not coming back was THEIR choice .

bcoz he cudn't convince them 2 cum back wid his own business like tycoon talks. if he'd asked them 2 cum back as bro or uncle then they might've cum back. and they never badmouth abt him though that press prsn always wants sumthing -ve 4 IMV!!

Rupal wanted to learn business from him .He welcomed her . However bad he may be , it was Rupal's choice to go back to him .

and wat has she learned from him till date?? nothing. she only sits there, eat, do shopping but i never see her discussing sumthing abt business even like nirali who has atleast interest in horse racing business!!

So u see I dont see people suffering due to him as such . Everyone is pretty much living their own life .

if u think this type of living life is worth then ppl wid money wud've been most happy!!and no1 is truly happy in that family & they r finding happiness among their own small things which IMV has allowed watever his reasons r!!

As far as the Saraswati and Laxmi point goes .............worship of knowledge and Vidya is fine , but poverty is NOT . Since u gave me example of Ramayan and Mahabharat ............I will give u example of Dronacharya in Mahabharat . He was a scholarly Brahmin who cud not give his child Ashwathama even a glass of milk due to his poverty as he was extremely poor inspite of his vidya , knowledge . His wife tricked Ashwathama by mixing white flour with water and telling him it was milk and Ashwathama ran in joy declaring that like his friends he too had tasted milk . That pained Drronacharya who decided that enuf was enuf and he decided to use his knowledge to earn money and give his family a good living .

dear u've given gud e.g & i m also not saying that one shud live in poverty & shudn't try 2 bcum rich but i think knowledge is the way 4 wealth & even u admit that dronacharya cudn't give his son milk but he got wealth only due 2 his vast knowledge which attracted bhishma & not the vice-versa!!

The Dhirubhai Ambani point ................even he has faced enquiry commitee for using unethical means in business .His war with Ramnath Goenka.founder of Indian express is legendary . This doesn't make him evil . Business is a cut throat industry . U gotta be ruthless to win . If one stands there joining hands and doing namastes and telling others u take the contracts , in one day he will become a beggar !

and though in business sum %age of ruthness is allowed & we know its a necessary evil in the corporate world but here we r asking abt his intentions 2 destroy oder's life 2 try 2 challenge him whether sabina oe devki or even his parents.

and luk wat has happend 2 DBA's family now if he did sumthing illegal or immoral 2 win! his own sons just sum yrs after his death got separated & even bad mouthed each oder indirectly!!

Values R fine , but one must remember , this is business world , where competition is stiff . The Rising Group of industries where Devki worked was equally ruthless . IMV cannot flourish in business with Motilal's way of thinking .

no1 is saying he shud work like his father in the corporate world but still there r many ways 2 reach the top. its not necessary that 2 shorten oder line we need 2 cut it we can shorten it by increasing our own line!!

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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

I think one is not talking about the business world when one says that IMV does not value other people's emotions.... he loves to control other's life, then be it Sid's selection of profession or Vaibhav's selction of life partner...he very ruthlessly snuffed out his love life for his own selfish reasons... as he had a hidden agenda in bringing D as his bahu... that too connivingly ... if he had the guts he should have done it openly...rather than trying to show that Sabina was to blame in this whole matter

Originally posted by: tiny15

and by watching this ckt till now i came 2 this conclusion though he'd allowed sum things in his house but they r not out of respect 4 any1else's feeling but just 2 show his power those ppl whom he'd allowed 2 do it & 2 maintain his gud image which is essential in the business 4 share mkts 2 sum extent 2 the world!!

so 4 me hes bad & shrewd & even getting nearer 2 the limit of evil if he goes on like this!!

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

dear u've given gud e.g & i m also not saying that one shud live in poverty & shudn't try 2 bcum rich but i think knowledge is the way 4 wealth & even u admit that dronacharya cudn't give his son milk but he got wealth only due 2 his vast knowledge which attracted bhishma & not the vice-versa!!

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But even in the serial IMV does not devalue education . He devalues poverty . He educated his sons by sending them abroad didnt he ? He liked Devkis Business School qualifications and he even himself wrote a book on business ethics !

No one is devaluing Saraswati or Education here . No one is even saying its vice versa . Infact everyone agrees that education is important ..........even IMV . What he despises is the glorification of poverty . And I agree with him there . There is nothing glorious about poverty ...........it is extremely painful . Poverty is acceptable only when one voluntarily gives up riches for a spiritual goal . Like the Sadhus do . For common man it can be a worst kind of curse .