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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: tiny15

anmol i don't agree wid u & esply on IMV.😒 he doesn't care abt his family!! if he'd cared abt them then he wudn't'd gone wid devki -vaibhav marriage but let his son marry his luv!!

in BV i want say that jag-anandi pair is more real than jag-gauri!! anandi & jag r shown 2 grow up 2gether & their friendship & later on luv has grown until jag has not mesmerised by materialism!! but leave this.
u may not connect wid vaibhav -sabina though i agree there luvstory was abit fast but still not unreal!!
and whereas baa & bapuji r great but they r human also!! wats the use of getting rich if u loose ur humanity.
and just bcoz he has kept his parents wid him doesn't mean he luvs them v. much. after watching epis where IMV himself acknowledged his sons as investment i doubt that he luvs his parents truly. i think hes more concerned abt his image also & just his image luk gud 2 outer world he has kept them as a trophy!!
no doubt devki is one of the best ckts in the show!!

its fine dolly , u have ur own pov and i totlly respect that why r u sad, 😊
come on no one can be pure evil in real life , just because imv wants to control his family does not mean he is completely heartless, yes i wish he pays 4 his wrong deeds but then he has a good side too ,its just ppl have formed this mindset from the beginning that imv is evil.
u know i never considered taps as evil too until she crossed all limits ,
i dont pass judgements very soon , imv still can change or cannot change only time will tell , till them i can give him a chance, if he goes further down then i will suppor u all in band baja of imv😆😆
no one is saint in real life, some of my family members r selfish and they have regressive thinking , they r wrong on many counts, does that mean i should say they r evil, no😆
i myself am no doodh ka dhula, i have been cunning and manipulative on certain occasions tooand i hate it but i myself have done it, two three yrs back i stole from my mums purse , i feel horribly guilty abt that
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@anmol though i also prefer not 2 pass judgement so soon & i even try 2 see oder's POV but here atleast till sum thing else is shown IMV is a evil ckt who can go 2 any extent!! but if he cums 2 his senses evne bcoz of devki then we can say his basic nature wasnot like this!!
and though i m sad that vaibhav-sabina didn't marry but its bcoz that i don't want such luvers 2 b separated wen both r nice human being & not bcoz i like them. i even like devki-vaibhav pair!!and only sad thing is that IMV is shown 2've a upper hand & even defending his deeds by blaming oder ckts. its like UT2 has started atleast in the forum!!😆😆
and i agree no1 is saint but still exceptions r there!! and even i m also selfish but i won't try 2 harm oders just 4 my happiness. and even if i'd no oder option then 2 i try 2 give less pain 2 the oder prsn atleast intentionally!!😊😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: tiny15

@anmol though i also prefer not 2 pass judgement so soon & i even try 2 see oder's POV but here atleast till sum thing else is shown IMV is a evil ckt who can go 2 any extent!! but if he cums 2 his senses evne bcoz of devki then we can say his basic nature wasnot like this!!

and though i m sad that vaibhav-sabina didn't marry but its bcoz that i don't want such luvers 2 b separated wen both r nice human being & not bcoz i like them. i even like devki-vaibhav pair!!and only sad thing is that IMV is shown 2've a upper hand & even defending his deeds by blaming oder ckts. its like UT2 has started atleast in the forum!!😆😆
and i agree no1 is saint but still exceptions r there!! and even i m also selfish but i won't try 2 harm oders just 4 my happiness. and even if i'd no oder option then 2 i try 2 give less pain 2 the oder prsn atleast intentionally!!😊😊

dolly tumhe buraa lagaa toh i am sorry but yeh meri thinking hain , bas jyaada buraa mat sichna iss baare mein , this is just a show and i am passing jusdements on fictional characters
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: intruderfast

dolly tumhe buraa lagaa toh i am sorry but yeh meri thinking hain , bas jyaada buraa mat sichna iss baare mein , this is just a show and i am passing jusdements on fictional characters

i know u urself'd said that though u liked the ckt but can't justify his acts!!😊😊and atleast itna toh hume pata hai ki tum atleats evil ko defend nahi karoge!!😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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dolly and anmol [ if i may call u that 😊] . I agree with anmol that IMV is not evil . He has shades of grey , he isn't totally black . . He loves his parents immensely . Although he values money and position , he also wants his family . .
What zaps me about his family is they pretend as if they HATE egoistic talk ............they don't like it when IMV uses his name etc . But they use their name ALL the time .
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Motilal Master Ka Beta
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Motilal Master Ka Parivaar
Motilal Master ki Patni
Yesterday Baa says proudly Kesar ka beta
Its as if there is a competition between IMV and Motilal Master in using their respective names .
And my point is ............this may sound harsh to u guys but forgive me , these r simply my thoughts ............if the old man Motilal is so fond of using his name this way inspite of being an insignificant school teacher in a remote village in Gujrat why shudn't the son IMV be a bit proud for he achieved something really substantial in life ..........he is a business tycoon and many products have his name today . Surely he is entitled to a little pride and ego ?
When these guys have done nothing great yet they tom tom their name as if the whole world knows Motilal Master , at least IMV did SOMETHING , right ?
Not that I approve of him calling himself BHagwan etc .......thats a silly butchering of a wonderful character by silly creatives . They simply dont know where to draw the line .
But u get my point ?😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: faabz

Some points I would have loved to see
1. A bit more elaborate ( but not to the point of dragging) and realistic falling in love between VS. They would make a terrific couple, but the story line is weak. They should have given them a stronger base for their love
2.Realistic Devki
3. Less Self righteous but at times hypocritical group (ba bapuji, manhar family).
4. Old Nirali -- the new one looks good but she is too bubbly to the point that in front of devki she looks like a kiddo, not the same age.
5. Better acting from Vaibhav - frankly he looks clueless at times like he is somewhere else...
6. More Sabeena - Wish she gets a nice person now that vaibhav is takes ( I dont believe in breaking marriages - just like sabeena 😊

Otherwise its a good serial, nice change from old saas bahu sagas


somehow dont like IMV and cant stand the sight of him... so wont comment on him....
I too wud have loved it if they had shown the story line between V n S a little stronger... love this couple ... but now that V is married to D ... I wud like to see more of S with some one new and n better than V ....
Edited by cjs369 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: tiny15

one thing i like both sabina & devki but still facts r facts!!! it was clear from the scenes btn vaibhav & sabina that there was/is luv btn them. if sum ppl don't like sum pairing then its fine but why 2 say its not gud bcoz we don't like it!!🤢🤢and going wid sum1 on date doesn't mean u luv that prsn. in our country there r so many arranged marriages where ppl never go on date until they get engaged but later on their marriages r more successful than those ppl who went on date ,fall in luv wid that prsn & married!!i m not saying vaibhav devki's marriage won't b successful bcoz these CVs now shown marriage so it"ll defntly make 2 work as in indian shows generally marriages r not shown 2 b broken until oder prsn is evil or purely inhuman!!
totally agree with you dolly.... if V n D who are not in love can get married then why not V n S where V was definitely in love with S and S did have a soft corner for him... that aspect of the story was not built upon....
and just bcoz sabina is an actress & was linked up wid sum1 doesn't mean shes a cktless & just bcoz devki has more interest in acadamics doesn't mean shes sum super woman!!🤢🤢this thinking is pathetic. if just bcoz sabina was linked up wid sum1 by media makes her cktless or less worthy than devki then why u ppl r watching these show after all the ckt of devki is also played by an actress who may in furure got linked up wid sum1 by media!!🥱
Sabina has been shown as a wonderful human ... she is an independent woman who had a tough childhood inspite of which she has made a good life for her self.. as far as involvement goes ... that cud simply be the rumours which is rampant in that industry... but even if its true it does not make her a lesser person...and I am sure V knows about it and loves her inspite of it ...
and its a fact that IMV is the most selfish human being shown in this show. may b sidharth is a coward but atleast hes a human being & wants truly his bro's happiness
Sidharth is a guy who ... due to his father he had to give up his first love of painting ...which hurts him so much that he has not been able to come to terms with that fact till date... he does not want the same to happen to his brother... whats wrong if he is tried to help his brother in getting his happiness....
and whereas iMV is concerned he'd himself stated that 4 him his sons & esply vaibhav is an investment!!
I hope IMV regrets his actions some day ... just cant stand this guy who thinks himself to be god... he has forgotten that there is God above him.... I am sure there will be a judgement day for him too...




Edited by cjs369 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@ koolsaadhu1000 very well written 👏👏.. i completely agree wid ur analysisthat any parent wud chose devaki over sabina so IMv is right here
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

dolly and anmol [ if i may call u that 😊] . I agree with anmol that IMV is not evil . He has shades of grey , he isn't totally black . . He loves his parents immensely . Although he values money and position , he also wants his family . .

What zaps me about his family is they pretend as if they HATE egoistic talk ............they don't like it when IMV uses his name etc . But they use their name ALL the time .
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Motilal Master Ka Beta
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Motilal Master Ka Parivaar
Motilal Master ki Patni
Yesterday Baa says proudly Kesar ka beta
Its as if there is a competition between IMV and Motilal Master in using their respective names .
And my point is ............this may sound harsh to u guys but forgive me , these r simply my thoughts ............if the old man Motilal is so fond of using his name this way inspite of being an insignificant school teacher in a remote village in Gujrat why shudn't the son IMV be a bit proud for he achieved something really substantial in life ..........he is a business tycoon and many products have his name today . Surely he is entitled to a little pride and ego ?
When these guys have done nothing great yet they tom tom their name as if the whole world knows Motilal Master , at least IMV did SOMETHING , right ?
Not that I approve of him calling himself BHagwan etc .......thats a silly butchering of a wonderful character by silly creatives . They simply dont know where to draw the line .
But u get my point ?😊

yaeh u can call me by my name!!😊
i don't know but i find him quite bad if not proper evil!! but the prsn who can employ sum oder prsn 2 degrade his enemy by doing ckt assasination due 2 misunderstanding oder prsn's relation wid sum1 just bcoz he thinks of oder ppl as not worthy or match his level!! or employ sum1 2 kill his son's luv 2 satisfy his ego & 2 succed his evil plans of destroying ppl isn't an evil!!😕
@red i think sum ppl give preference 2 values. seeing IMV's parents i think they r best parents one can've as they don't crave 4 money but simplicity thatswhy their room is simple unlike oder virani house rooms!! though they r proud of him but they also want their son 2 b humble & respect values. and just bcoz we've money or status doesn't mean we shud think ourselves above all things. a bit of pride is ok but IMV is totally a authoratian prsn who doesn't respect oder ppl's feelings!! and if they r saying that their son or their family then wats wrong? 2 me it seems they r doing this just 2 show him that hes not sum kind of god which he always try 2 pretend or rather says it!!
i think the day he leaves his ego & pride they"ll proudly say that they r parents of IMV rather than iMV as their son. and bcoz IMV always try 2 show his parents that educn or teaching is below the level of business or wealth & thatswhy he stopped his niece 2 join as a teacher!! and i think "vidhya" has much higher level than the "wealth"!!bcoz where there is "saraswati" "luxmi" always cums there but where "luxmi" is more worshipped there "saraswati" rarely cums!!😊
and i'd said in my earlier post that richness doesn't mean 2 leave humanity & doesn't give him the right 2 b egoistic!! imagine if tata or ambanis or birlas behaving like IMV do u think u or any of us"ll b able 2 respect them. 4 me their vast property is a like ash if they r not human. "true self-made prsns never've pride & ego".and even in one epi kesar'd said that ppl wud never 4get "Motilal Master" even if he doesn't've money or bcum poor bcoz of the "Vidhya" but the day IMV bcum bankrupt these same ppl wudn't take a minute 2 degrade him or dispose him or 4get him!!
e.g.(from our own mythology) Lord Rama & Lord Krishna 2day why we worship them ? though they were incarnations of Lord Vishnu but they came as humans on this earth just 2 establish humanity as supreme. do u think they were worshipped if they were egositic like IMV or if saying at that times duryodhana?? rem ravana was more a self-made prsn who got all wealth & kingdom bcoz of his strength of muscles & educn. but no1 remembers him as a such. even if sum1 refer him like i m doing then its always 2 show how wrong was he & how disrespected by ppl in comparison 2 Lord Rama!!😊
Edited by tiny15 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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but IMV is totally a authoratian prsn who doesn't respect oder ppl's feelings!! .
Dolly i wudn't exactly say that . I will give u my reasons , ok .
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All the people in his house , with the exception of Siddarth r living life exactly the way they please. And he allows them to .
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Motilal Master has his own big room and he does Saraswati worship there , lives life on his terrms , goes for romantic walks with his wife ...........I dont see him adjusting AT ALL............rite from eating his gathiyas to romancing Baa
Baa is a very strong woman who doesn't hesitate to give her son a tongue lashing when she chooses to speak her mind . She left house when she chose to and came back when she chose to . I dont see her adjusting AT ALL .
Charu does her Guru worship and manages two ashrams using her husbands money . He allows her to do this social work by using his money , he doesnt interfere in her life .I have not seen him throwing her Gurus photo out or the sandals she worships out and refusing to allow her to go to those ashrams. Charu also is a strong woman who doesnt hesitate to speak her mind to him .
Rajvi shops unlimitedly using credi cards on Viranis account . I dont see IMV scolding her in ANYTHING . Infact he encouraged her to manage an event when he was plotting badnami of BB . He rather likes his bahus doing other stuff besides kitchen kitchen the whole day .
Devki has got permission to keep Ganesh idol , he personally doesnt believe in God but he does evaluate the debate before giving final judgement . He wants her to do business and not waste her talent by just doing kitchen work .
Siddarth ...........well , perhaps he was kinda forced to join business instead of becoming an artist . But look at it from his POV .........he is a tycoon and he will hand over a legacy to Siddarth and Vaibhav . Surely Siddarth can do business and yet paint as a hobby in spare time ? Or if he uses creatrive ideas to enhance business , im sure IMV wont mind it .
Vaibhav inherited his Dads love for business so no force there . Yes , his affair with Sabina was snuffed out by IMV but frankly , he had his reasons .
Manhar's family left the house so Sonal shud become a teacher . IMV frankly told her that ok , if u want to be a teacher although I am willing to give u better opprtunities , fine , but go and do it on ur terms .No point in staying in an AC mansion and opting for a simple paying profession .If u want to experience that life .........go , REALLY experience it . Fair enough , right ?
But he does invite them for all functions and even asked them to come back .Not coming back was THEIR choice .
Rupal wanted to learn business from him .He welcomed her . However bad he may be , it was Rupal's choice to go back to him .
So u see I dont see people suffering due to him as such . Everyone is pretty much living their own life .
As far as the Saraswati and Laxmi point goes .............worship of knowledge and Vidya is fine , but poverty is NOT . Since u gave me example of Ramayan and Mahabharat ............I will give u example of Dronacharya in Mahabharat . He was a scholarly Brahmin who cud not give his child Ashwathama even a glass of milk due to his poverty as he was extremely poor inspite of his vidya , knowledge . His wife tricked Ashwathama by mixing white flour with water and telling him it was milk and Ashwathama ran in joy declaring that like his friends he too had tasted milk . That pained Drronacharya who decided that enuf was enuf and he decided to use his knowledge to earn money and give his family a good living .
The Dhirubhai Ambani point ................even he has faced enquiry commitee for using unethical means in business .His war with Ramnath Goenka.founder of Indian express is legendary . This doesn't make him evil . Business is a cut throat industry . U gotta be ruthless to win . If one stands there joining hands and doing namastes and telling others u take the contracts , in one day he will become a beggar !
Values R fine , but one must remember , this is business world , where competition is stiff . The Rising Group of industries where Devki worked was equally ruthless . IMV cannot flourish in business with Motilal's way of thinking .
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