Originally posted by: skeptical
Joey my sweet doll ......................... the eternal optimist 👏 👏 👏
Me .................... the eternal skeptic 🤢 🤢 🤢
no doubt 😆 so full of postive thinking👏
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Originally posted by: skeptical
Joey my sweet doll ......................... the eternal optimist 👏 👏 👏
Me .................... the eternal skeptic 🤢 🤢 🤢
Skepti see one very good point which Purvi mentioned in one of her posts(it went to 2nd pg I suppose)...is that Rajbir after this night might completely change and might end up saving Mamaji and his family from Prince's evil plans😉😛....remember same thing happened in Pride and Prejudice also na😳I feel this can happen because both this tabela fiasco and Prince fiasco r shown at the same time...so there must b some link here😉
Originally posted by: skeptical
Finished seeing the late night telecast. Just as I had feared. It seems to be only a moment of madness. Sigh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is no emotion involved in it. 😭
The morning after is going to bring heartbreak for everyone including the audience. What a sad thing to happen. The rain, the cold and not to forget the few gulps of brandy are going to do the trick.Joey is your much awaited tabela scene going to be ruined?Will love bloom in the night ?Will they accept each other with their differences?Will they sort out their differences and move forward from there?Will the night mean more than just a passing fancy?Will it be the story of a passionate night that's best forgotten?Will there be repentance the next day?Will there be accusations and shame?Will there be maturity shown by both?Will this coming together be seen as something sinful or meaningful?Will there be heartbreak after all for both or one of them?One thing is for sure....................my heart is broken.When there is no Love or even careWhich road might you take from there?For there is a void of empty emotionNothing to cherish nor any devotionThere was nothing but madness in the mindWhat will hold the hearts in a bind?Love should be there when passions leapIntimate moments are not meant to be cheapNo sensitivity nor understanding in the wakeIt's a sham, a fake that's difficult to take.SkepSorry friends, that's my POV
I am happy to see that many have not really liked the idea of a drunk Kranti being initiated.
I
What is abhorrent :
Tunnel vision amongst the makers. The creatives started a stupid track a few weeks ago of showing a shrewish and aggressive Kranti. They made her totally silly and insensitive. The viewers screamed blue murder. They realised that the show was going downhill, so they came up with a master scheme. The tabela plan. It was a hastily contrived idea. They knew that the audience wanted it for sure. And the PR ppl started doing a good job. Promos flashed every minute so that the loyal viewer got a glimpse. There was jubilation. TRPs were rising. All the right masalas were added and the mixture seemed to be a dish of gr8 taste. Yuck. Far from it. The ploy worked. There was a clamour for the scene and they knew how to keep us hyper and anxious. And in four days two sworn enemies had bedded and the deed was done. Kranti at a stage when she still distrusted her husband, was made to participate in the tabela scene. ( Not by her husband but by the writers) Thank God they didn't warp her character totally. On the other hand Raj's character is slowly metamorphosing and he is drawing sympathy towards him. The morning after was something a few of us were dreading and it happened just that way. But it was so unconvincing and stupidly portrayed.
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The change in Raj:
The subtle changes in this character have been brought out very well. His initial irritation with Kranti has worn off. Kaha phas gya hoon main was his chant. But now he is subdued. Unfortunately he is made to feel guilty. He is accused by her of seducing her in her state of stupor. He looked unnerved at that time and a bit sad. Obviously the night meant something to him. He was gentle (Thank God). He tried to placate her and calm her down. But she was beyond everything. He hated to see the hurt in her eyes. More than hurt, it was defeat and self-derision. That must have been a real blow to him. What was meaningful to him, was degrading to her. But he was understanding. He was so even the previous night. When he realises she had had an extra sip, he asked her if she liked the taste. He gave in to the moment of passion and gave it all.
His stroking her clothes while packing was sensitively depicted. When he murmurs, Kranti…..I ain't like that, he was convincing. Full marks there for the actor and the director. He doesn't confide in anyone not even his best friend about what has happened. Perhaps he thinks it private and sacred and so he couldn't discuss it at all with anyone. He seems to have matured after this experience, lets see how he shapes up next week.
III
My Kudi
O dear!!!!!! The most complex of all. She has a good little bit of that drink. But the decanter is just half if not less. Raj has been helping himself to it through the evening, remember? And she is sipping it, not downing it in one go. This makes her high?? And then she casts off the bottle. She smiles freely. Are we to understand that she is drunk? O Brother………..Gimme a break!!!! She is tipsy but not drunk. Her speech is neither slurred nor does she speak incoherently. Her faculties are about her. But somewhat. She is flirting with him quite openly. And that was kinda cute. When she calls him kadva, what was she doing? Flirting, isn't it? And she was there. Her head was on her shoulders. It was not lolling off. She has fully participated in the lovemaking and has enjoyed every moment of it. Did it remind her of the wolf?? NO. She gave herself up. She capitulated and it was sweet surrender. He didn't force himself on her at all. She knew what was happening even if she couldn't control it. From what I saw, she wanted it to happen. Regret would come tomorrow but for the moment she threw caution to the winds. The viewer doesn't mind, my dear. You are human and even if he is your sworn enemy, he is the closest to you.
Why did the cretivs have to show her screaming her outrage the next day as if she had been raped? The way she tries to cleanse herself and weeping like a Victorian heroine who had been molested. Did she see similarities between her present husband and her past? We didn't. What she is feeling, is guilt. She has betrayed herself. She has fallen in some way because now she won't be on the same level with him as she previously was. That's her tragedy. She keeps seeing them together, their arms tight around each other. And she cries even more. Her husband has been sensitive, that's a point in her favour. I hope she knows and understands that…..
I'm sorry but I don't think the creatives know how to transform this confused frightened and lonely young girl into a confident woman who can command love, loyalty, respect and passion from her husband who is bound to change for her.
skepti i will paste the same thing bout the show which i juss posted in jyoti's update post ....n i m uss say we think very much alike in this matter
ok cuming back, i dun think .....we can completly blame raj for th nite!! raj was in his senses no doubt but even kranti was not completly out tht she didnt know wat was happening!!she remembers each n every act next morning!! and during the scene also ...i guess kranti was only leading him most of the times! as far as raj is concerned ....to me it appeared tht.......even when kranti went out in rain n getting wet .....he got no such feeling ....he was juss concerned....he got mesmerized when kranti hugged him!! and he kinda smiled during the hug......😳........so according to him this was kranti's consent to b wit him.......and since then i think watever happened was mutual!!this shows rajveer was alwayz attracted by kranti.....tht one move frm her and he was all over her .😆......poor guy cudnt control though being in his senses!!😉😆so tht means raj alwayz wanted her!! even the next day he was not regretting!! i think b4 seeing kranti in tht state he was actually satisfied tht they got togetehr and r a couple in the real sense!! mabbe he wanted to tell this to her .......he actually forgot wat type of relation he shares wit kranti.......he was juss a husband who in the sleep also was searching his wife!! i think the next day he wanted to tell her tht they r indeed made for each other but i guess he didnt get the chance and was completly taken back wit kranti's outburst!😭ok now cuming to kranti...............here cuz of the drink .....her brain wasnt working, her ego wasnt there ..........it was juss her heart n she followed it wit raj!! 😊next morning i think she was more angry on herself than raj!! she blasted raj but the main reason was tht she herself was feeling ashamed!! she thinks tht i twas raj's plan but she knows tht wateevr happened was wit her consent .......in the nite..she didnt deny him eevn once!so i think more than raj ........she is hating herself for letting raj cuming close to her!! she is now going thru mixed feelings ......she is like ....if she hates him so much then why the hell she didnt stop him last nite!! ok she was drunk ...but had she done the same if sum oethr man wud hav been there!! i dun think so!!so she is battling wit herself!!so i think the show was quite positive and perfect in terms of logic ,emotions and feelings!! atleast they came to know their inner feelings thru this nite!!😊
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@ sevy and dilip
We are a minority here. But lets hold hands and stick by our views. They are the sane ones. My beautiful dreamers are terribly afflicted.PS Sevy: Once again, please change the colour of your font. Its difficult to read that neon green. (no force here, just a request)