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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: an12345678

That is what we want, "he reforms," but for that he needs to know that he is wrong somewhere.

Dawn, I do agree about Sohan Tau jee's case, if not him, someone else would have taken that up--and I mentioned that in my comments at that time also. I blame him for framing of Mama jee, he was both ruthless and manipulative, no one else would have done that. Only R knew about Kranti and her links with Sohan Tau jee and krantikaris.


I agree the way Raj framed Sohan Tauji was absolutely wrong..but the question is what made Raj stoop so low all of a sudden...
The reason is...
1).Raj already had a very bad opinion about the Krantikaris and thinks that they always take to violence to get their work done
2)Raj was told by the Takla that the trucks carried some Military Consignment which the Krantikaris wanted to destroy..but Raj never knew that those guns and ammunition were basically bought to Lahore to kill innocent Indians
3)Raj himself saw Sohan Tauji involved in that shootout and so he was almost sure that Sohan Singh is guilty
4)Lastly he thought to finish up violent people like Sohan Singh,If I had to take the wrong route I will do so
So once all these confusions r cleared in Raj's mind..only then we can expect him to hv a heart transplantation in Satnaam Singh's case😃
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Posted: 16 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: jyoti06

But Raj never intentionally tried to put Kranti under any sort of danger..
Whereas Kranti now deliberately wants to destroy Raj's life for revenge..
Raj cast her to the wolves (Tribhuwan & Co thro MM) by deliberately implicating Mama ji and arresting him. He knew the set up of the house in which my kudi lived. Every action was deliberated, planned and acted out. He knew everything about Kranti when he lived deliberately in their house under guise. He knew she was in no position to thwart MM's action. He cared two figs about what happened to her. He knew she would suffer when he deliberately hanged Sohan tau ji. He took away from her everything she had. The two people in the world who took care of her. He knew she was cruelly treated by her mami, he knew she was an orphan, he knew she had no one's support left yet he deliberately led the wolf to SN's home. How dastardly he was.
He forced her mayb indirectly to a life worse than death ( But Raj never intentionally tried to put Kranti under any sort of danger..) No wonder she used to say I never want to forget these wounds because these will motivate me to bring this man down to his knees.
He tied her in knots and made her life miserable without even a careless thought for her. She is a simple girl but he is a man of the world. So he put his knowledge to misuse and not to use. How is he so naive where the Taklu is concerned and always suspicious and doubtful where she is concerned? Rather absurd, dont you think?
If he is convinced that every KK is a sinner and a phoney, why is he playing the vigilante? Why is he playing some protector bringing his own form of justice? If someone doesn't agree with you, does it give you the power the finish him off?
While his crime is Himalayan, how can she not want her pound of flesh. She is still a KK but now she has two objectives ..... down with the Brits and down with Raj. The latter having taken precedence.
Its because she is a simpleton that she doesn't want to upset the whole household. And wants him to redeem himself. Why she wants that is the turning point of the story. But he is the Devil Incarnate.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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hai ram itna gussa.
cool down skippy.
actually the problem starts with prem babu's case.
that time raj only hurt prem babu and broke his confidence.
then krantii tried to kill him now tell me why he will help her?
but he saved her.
then bit of fights took place between them in the court sequence.
then again in kakori conspiracy raj saved her life.
and he was also very upset with takla for the dhokha he gave him.
but that takla trap him well and the innocent raj became the evil one.
the he was extremely wrong i agree.
he wrongly trap mamaji and the worst scene was the one

jisme raj krantii ke parents ke asthiyo wale kalash tak ki talashi leta hai.
it was hurting.
i was also calling him traitor,dhoke baaz.,kamina etc.
i just hated him for that.
and sohan singh's phansi.....................sad.
but till now we don't know what is in his mind and heart.
thats why i m waiting
may be woh sudhar jaye(jaldi)


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Posted: 16 years ago
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hai ram itna gussa.
cool down skippy.
Bhawna chica, there is no gussa, its just an emphatic argument. To keep the balance of thought.

actually the problem starts with prem babu's case.
that time raj only hurt prem babu and broke his confidence.
then krantii tried to kill him now tell me why he will help her?
My kudi lost her rights to the land on which the press stood. The Rat hoodwinked the KKs and took away the all the papers of ownership. The land belonged to her parents.

but he saved her.
He didn't save her he let her go. How would he have explained his deviousness to his family who believed him to be a golden boy?

These are only my stray thoughts and POVs. Honey, dont take it seriously.
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Posted: 16 years ago
#15
no dear i am fine
its your opinion and i respect it
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Posted: 16 years ago
#16
O K Guys ............. I'm sorry ............
I guess this is a sensitive post I've made .........
All of us here have our own POV .........
And nothing we do or say can change that .........
No probs ........... We'll still enjoy the serial together .......
Lets have fun and be happy ......... 🤗
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Posted: 16 years ago
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And the war...Continues till eternity....😆😳..Bhavna and Skepti very good defence put forward by both of u👏..I m proud of both the camps now👏😉😆
Achha now my Defence😆
Skepti ...Raj trapped Mamaji when the Takla had put pressure on him to win the case by hook or by crook if he wanted his father's RB-Ship..and Raj never wanted to keep Mamaji in jail,he just wanted to make Mamaji the Sarkari gawah and then release him later but Mamaji was obviously loyal to Sohan tauji and rightly so👏..So again I still hv doubt whether trapping Mamaji was anything to do with his personal rivalry with Kranti...because if that was the case then why Mamaji..he could hv trapped Kranti also na ??😉...
And like Bhavna said ....Kranti tried to kill him once but he still never made an issue out of it and kept quiet..so its like giving her one lifeline only na😉😆...It was Kranti who always wanted to take panga with Rajveer whether its stabbing him or challenging him for WWF match with the pehelwan or recently blackmailing him and then went on to marrying him😆 , so in the end Raj too started taking it personally😆..They both hv this grt give and take relationship according to me😆..its like Panga Lo and Panga do😆😉
Regarding Raj handing over Kranti to that buddha party..again did Raj knew why Kranti had to run away from her Sasural ??😳...Raj only knew that Kranti married Buddha for money and she ran away from there to take part in KK activities..and she he handed over Kranti to the buddha...So again I doubt whether it was related to his personal equation with Kranti😕...
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: jyoti06

I agree the way Raj framed Sohan Tauji was absolutely wrong..but the question is what made Raj stoop so low all of a sudden...
The reason is...
1).Raj already had a very bad opinion about the Krantikaris and thinks that they always take to violence to get their work done
2)Raj was told by the Takla that the trucks carried some Military Consignment which the Krantikaris wanted to destroy..but Raj never knew that those guns and ammunition were basically bought to Lahore to kill innocent Indians
3)Raj himself saw Sohan Tauji involved in that shootout and so he was almost sure that Sohan Singh is guilty
4)Lastly he thought to finish up violent people like Sohan Singh,If I had to take the wrong route I will do so
So once all these confusions r cleared in Raj's mind..only then we can expect him to hv a heart transplantation in Satnaam Singh's case😃



Jyoti, I am not at all talking about framing Sohan Tau jee... it was his case that he had to win for his client. But, I disapprove planting of gun to put pressure on Mama jee to become a witness for him. That was totally uncalled for.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: jyoti06

And the war...Continues till eternity....😆😳..Bhavna and Skepti very good defence put forward by both of u👏..I m proud of both the camps now👏😉😆

Achha now my Defence😆
Skepti ...Raj trapped Mamaji when the Takla had put pressure on him to win the case by hook or by crook if he wanted his father's RB-Ship..and Raj never wanted to keep Mamaji in jail,he just wanted to make Mamaji the Sarkari gawah and then release him later but Mamaji was obviously loyal to Sohan tauji and rightly so👏..So again I still hv doubt whether trapping Mamaji was anything to do with his personal rivalry with Kranti...because if that was the case then why Mamaji..he could hv trapped Kranti also na ??😉...
And like Bhavna said ....Kranti tried to kill him once but he still never made an issue out of it and kept quiet..so its like giving her one lifeline only na😉😆...It was Kranti who always wanted to take panga with Rajveer whether its stabbing him or challenging him for WWF match with the pehelwan or recently blackmailing him and then went on to marrying him😆 , so in the end Raj too started taking it personally😆..They both hv this grt give and take relationship according to me😆..its like Panga Lo and Panga do😆😉
Regarding Raj handing over Kranti to that buddha party..again did Raj knew why Kranti had to run away from her Sasural ??😳...Raj only knew that Kranti married Buddha for money and she ran away from there to take part in KK activities..and she he handed over Kranti to the buddha...So again I doubt whether it was related to his personal equation with Kranti😕...


well said jyoti
i am missing your updates.
anyways lets come to the point-jo i had some issues related to raj when he wrongly planted gun at mamaji's house but to a certain extent you have cleared it my mind.
yeah it is absolutely right because he has to win the case for his client at any cost.
but the main disappointing thing was that asthi kalash issue.
as i said it earlier it was really bad.
and about the budha party issue-he on;ly knows the half truth he only guessed that krantii was with her KK partners and got injured and now is with SN.
and budha is finding her so in that case i give him clean chit.
after watching the ral torture he himself was feeling uncomfortable.

and this for anti raj camp especially -
you are calling him traitor cause he played tricks to win his cases.
one day he will use the same tricks to win the cases for his own nation.
its just the point of view.
actually he thought kk is wrong thats y he had done all these things.
and even in satnaam singh case takla lied to him and using him.
just wait and watch for the time when raj will actually confront the reality of britishers.
rajveer is just a practical man.


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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: skeptical

Why did the Rat have a one-point agenda when he isolated her out and tormented her cruelly?? ohhhhhh!! The Devil take him !!!! 😡 😡 😡 😡



skepti!!!!!! is still angry with Kaake 🥱

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