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Posted: 15 years ago
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Shruti all i can say atm is if SaYank arent perfect no guy can Be !!! 🤣 🤣

ok sorry just had 2 add this 1 more point his immaturity is also reflected in the fact that mr. neel thinks just cause of a fight and some tension samrat and gunjan who to him seem so diff from each other are hence not perfect for each other - well mr neel; as a director of romantic movies u shd certainly know this for a FACT every couple fights - some more then others - and some less - BUT THE POINT IS ALL COUPLES FIGHT AT SOMETIME - this doesnt make anyone less perfect for the other cause if that were the case we'd still be living by the rule of the stone age - with no commitment or an institution such as marriage - in this world of civilization šŸ˜‰šŸ˜›

and @ twinnie Gina - yup gal we all SamHitians are up against Mr. oberoi - call our Sammy a dhakkan or anything - but if he cant be termed perfect - no guy can be - as all of his chashmishes - say we dont bash others - but u arent allowed to bash our Jaan either 🤣🤣
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: aarthi.ramani

@bold anu

Neil does have his flaws but are masked by his professionalism and straight forwardness.. each step he takes is, on surface simple and plain while if go deep in questioning lies the true meaning of each word and action. now take the example of when sajan talk after sam is stoped by the gurads.. when gunji took sam apart to speak he should have left but he did not instead he stood there to know what they were speaking..

his each and every line he speaks to gunjan as u said is controlled as if trying to brainwash her...and yes this outdoor shoot does have lot of motive ...


My God ... Aarti .. u've read my mind .. cos I was going to edit my reply & write this point also ...... If he was such a good friend of gunajn.. he should have left them alone for their discussion .. but he stood there pretending not to listen .. but at the same time very carefully listening to their conv.. As Sam left .. instead of advicing Gunjan abt Sam's pov .. he very carefully manipulated her & made her say rhat she will do the movie at any cost ...... this shows that he's too deep & calculative person....& he knows how to read people & move him acc to his will ... that's why I feel he is extremely dangerous. he will never attack directly .. but his attacks will b hidden & lethal
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: aahana86

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Shruti all i can say atm is if SaYank arent perfect no guy can Be !!! 🤣 🤣

ok sorry just had 2 add this 1 more point his immaturity is also reflected in the fact that mr. neel thinks just cause of a fight and some tension samrat and gunjan who to him seem so diff from each other are hence not perfect for each other - well mr neel; as a director of romantic movies u shd certainly know this for a FACT every couple fights - some more then others - and some less - BUT THE POINT IS ALL COUPLES FIGHT AT SOMETIME - this doesnt make anyone less perfect for the other cause if that were the case we'd still be living by the rule of the stone age - with no commitment or an institution such as marriage - in this world of civilization šŸ˜‰šŸ˜›

and @ twinnie Gina - yup gal we all SamHitians are up against Mr. oberoi - call our Sammy a dhakkan or anything - but if he cant be termed perfect - no guy can be - as all of his chashmishes - say we dont bash others - but u arent allowed to bash our Jaan either 🤣🤣




šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘ cnt agree more aahana ..U SAID IT
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hey Aahana šŸ¤—
Really nice topic sweetheart (as usual). I'm more of a silent reader and admirer of ur topic these days, coz u say everything so beautifully, that i don't know wat to add in them.
In this post, i'm writing, coz I see Neil from a different angle (which i know most of u will not agree wid). First of all, i'll completely agree wid u all, that like everyone, Neil also IS NOT perfect, and he can't be so too. So, it is very unfair on him, if we say that Neil is a perfect man.
Some of my friends here think that I'm being harsh on Neil. But believe me, despite trying numerous times to change my pov, i end up with having the same.
I agree wid u all that he's a nice, decent and mature guy and is a thourough professional. I also understand that he has lost the ONLY love of his life, and that too forever. Gunjan was his inspiration, his reasone for existence, the love of his life. He always dreamt of living his entire lifetime with her, but things took a complete U-turn for him and all his dreams shattered when he came to know of the reality.
Having said this, i believe that watever Neil said to Sam in last night's epi, was something that raised my suspicion for him. The ONLY thought that kept on, and still is, haunting my mind is, that WHY did he tell Sam about his feelings. Neil knows that Sam and Gunjan LOVE each other. He knows, and he has seen that SG can't stay away from each other even for a second. Then why did he open his heart, and told his feelings to Sam? Sam isn't his friend, his confidant. He is the boy who loves Gunjan madly and he's the boy who Gunjan loves madly. Even for a second Neil didn't realize that wat consequences this might have on Sam-Gunjan's relationship, esp. when he claims the latter to be the only friend and love of his life? Is he in a way (indirectly) telling Sam to get out of his way?? Wasn't this a bit immature behavior on his part??
Another thing, what right does Neil have to advice Sam that he needs to grow up?? Sam has his own life and he is free to live it the way he wants to. Neil telling him, that u're immature and impulsive, didn't go for me. If he's immature, so what??? Questioning Sam means that Neil is doubting Gunjan's choice and her sensibility. He knows that Gunjan is a sensible girl and that she will never fall for anything wrong. So, how can he even think that Gunjan made a mistake by selecting Sam? And how much does he know Sam, about SaJan's relationship?
Sorry Aahana, this post of mine seems to be more of a questionnaire, but i tell u i'm damn confused abt these things since yesterday (especially). I'm saying all this, not bcoz i have anything against Neil. These r the things that have confused me and i'm unable to find answers to these, so, i thought of sharing them wid u all. Mayb, ican get an answer from u guys.
I'm sorry if i've offended anyone. its purely my pov. And i'm expecting a lot of bashing after this post.
Lastly, and very importantly, plzz don't feel that i am against this track. I'm NOT AT ALL against it. Infact, its such a beautiful and touching track and wid every passing epi, i fall more n more in love wid it. It is one of the most strongest tracks of MJHT and has soo much depth in it. The way CVs r handling it is truly commendable. And the main credit goes to MoNaya for such splendid performances
Once again, a lovely post Aahana. U rock sweetheart!!!.
Love,
Ayesha
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: ayesha_80

Hey Aahana šŸ¤—

Really nice topic sweetheart (as usual). I'm more of a silent reader and admirer of ur topic these days, coz u say everything so beautifully, that i don't know wat to add in them.
In this post, i'm writing, coz I see Neil from a different angle (which i know most of u will not agree wid). First of all, i'll completely agree wid u all, that like everyone, Neil also IS NOT perfect, and he can't be so too. So, it is very unfair on him, if we say that Neil is a perfect man.
Some of my friends here think that I'm being harsh on Neil. But believe me, despite trying numerous times to change my pov, i end up with having the same.
I agree wid u all that he's a nice, decent and mature guy and is a thourough professional. I also understand that he has lost the ONLY love of his life, and that too forever. Gunjan was his inspiration, his reasone for existence, the love of his life. He always dreamt of living his entire lifetime with her, but things took a complete U-turn for him and all his dreams shattered when he came to know of the reality.
Having said this, i believe that watever Neil said to Sam in last night's epi, was something that raised my suspicion for him. The ONLY thought that kept on, and still is, haunting my mind is, that WHY did he tell Sam about his feelings. Neil knows that Sam and Gunjan LOVE each other. He knows, and he has seen that SG can't stay away from each other even for a second. Then why did he open his heart, and told his feelings to Sam? Sam isn't his friend, his confidant. He is the boy who loves Gunjan madly and he's the boy who Gunjan loves madly. Even for a second Neil didn't realize that wat consequences this might have on Sam-Gunjan's relationship, esp. when he claims the latter to be the only friend and love of his life? Is he in a way (indirectly) telling Sam to get out of his way?? Wasn't this a bit immature behavior on his part??

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Exactly ayesha thats what i meant...doesnt neil realize how will gunjan feel???? he himself has lost love...has bore the pain of losing love...does he want even gunjan to lose it??? does he want even gunjan to go thru the same pain????cant he be happy that atleast gunjan has the love of her life with her????

Another thing, what right does Neil have to advice Sam that he needs to grow up?? Sam has his own life and he is free to live it the way he wants to. Neil telling him, that u're immature and impulsive, didn't go for me. If he's immature, so what??? Questioning Sam means that Neil is doubting Gunjan's choice and her sensibility. He knows that Gunjan is a sensible girl and that she will never fall for anything wrong. So, how can he even think that Gunjan made a mistake by selecting Sam? And how much does he know Sam, about SaJan's relationship?

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OMG ayesha u r speaking my mind and heart out...exactly he earlier also insulted gunjan's sensibility by saying that sam isnt perfect for her...what does he mean...gunjan cant decide that who can be a gud life partner for her??????why does he think that he knows gunjan the most...and only he can know n understand her like that???he still isnt able to beleive that someone can love gunjan except him...he thru his ways conveys that he regards gunjan as a girl whom ppl can hardly love truely...and ppl r comparing him with our sammy????😲
Sorry Aahana, this post of mine seems to be more of a questionnaire, but i tell u i'm damn confused abt these things since yesterday (especially). I'm saying all this, not bcoz i have anything against Neil. These r the things that have confused me and i'm unable to find answers to these, so, i thought of sharing them wid u all. Mayb, ican get an answer from u guys.
I'm sorry if i've offended anyone. its purely my pov. And i'm expecting a lot of bashing after this post.
Lastly, and very importantly, plzz don't feel that i am against this track. I'm NOT AT ALL against it. Infact, its such a beautiful and touching track and wid every passing epi, i fall more n more in love wid it. It is one of the most strongest tracks of MJHT and has soo much depth in it. The way CVs r handling it is truly commendable. And the main credit goes to MoNaya for such splendid performances
Once again, a lovely post Aahana. U rock sweetheart!!!.
Love,
Ayesha

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hey Ayesha šŸ¤— Been so long missed ya

hmm. first of all before any other talks .. pls hon i request u be vocal on my thread .. i am touched by your kind words , but really ur silence is not what i want .. ok and that is an order of a friend and yes next a req by a fan 😳

hon pls dont say u cant add to my posts cause ur very POV tells me u r so being modest here and yes ur saying things is also helpful to me and others as this is why we come here dont we to analyze stuff , trying to know something perhaps we missed - like shruti' reply was amazing and yes an eye opener so hon pls do join us openly 😳

Ok next guys i agree with all of u Neel is truly confusing me too.. as we saw he says he loves Gunjan to samrat .. next today he is saying he respects her decision and her feelings regarding Samrat , but next when sam asks him where is gunjan .. he asks him to be calm and sit down , telling him ask yourself is now the right time for you to talk things with her .. he wouldnt even tell Sam where they are shooting and as we already know Gunji didnt either šŸ˜•

so def he's a two faced guy ... i am so glad Sam will be on the outdoor now , gosh this guy had me worried , i mean what was that him saying i'd be in touch with ya .. hell is it so difficult to name a place

plus a precap scene also shows him telling gunji that Sam was in my office today but i didnt say where we are .. so def when sam reached the location - gunjan will be as shocked as surprised and yes perhaps this will not be a good thing

again as mayu rightly says today lately gunjan has witnessed only sam' aggressive impulsive side as compared to neel who has been reasonably calm and mature - like many of u are saying as well - calm, cold calculated steps taken with precise decision and yes through thinking - this may again make things go for a toss

as even if now sam reveals to gunjan of neel' love he may go against his own words and yes gunjan may feel disgusted with sam' thinking again not a good sign

gosh i am tensed as hell about the next move in this track .. only relief which has me going now is that Gunjan wont be alone with neel on that outdoor shoot any more cause we know for sure .. once there nothing will make sammy boy leave that place for sure, at least w/o his chashmish 😳
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Aahana, I'm pretty sure Neil is a positive character, but even if he is negative, it doesn't make a difference to me, because this this is SaJan's story, it is the final test of their relationship, of their trust and bond.

But this post is about Neil, so I will explain to you why Neil is not a negative character. When Neil entered the show and I got to know the story of his and Gunjan's frienddship, I found him to be the male version of Gunjan 😳 A very shy and a private person, who always honours his commitment and is passionate about whatever he sets his mind too, and who is extremely selfless, just like Gunjan. Can you ever think of Gunjan turning into a negative character ? Did she had a shade of grey or turned negative when Sheena came into picture ? She was in love with Sam too, but since Sam was a friend, she put his happiness before hers. She wanted Sam's happiness and at that time it was Sheena.

That is exactly what is Neil doing right now ! Despite being in love with Gunjan, he is putting her happiness before his, because he knows her happiness lies with Samrat. As for him telling Sam about his feelings for Gunjan, he did that for Gunjan too, to make Sam realize that if Sam kept up this immature and childish attitude, he wold end up loosing Gunjan, because when Sam gets upset, he doesn't think and acts irrationally. He bared his hurt and his feelings to Sam, to make Sam realize that he needs to get his act together and grow up, because Gunjan needs Sam's support right now, not this childish attitude.

Now you will say, what right Neil has to say or make Sam realize anything right ? It between SaJan !! The thing is that whatever Neil has achieved in his life till now is all due to Gunjan, because she stood up for him when no one else would, sho helped him gain confidence to become what he is now !! Gunjan helped him achieved his dream so he is doing the same thing for her, helping Gunjan achiever her dream, which is not this movie, but a life with Sam.

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hey aahana brilliant post as usual dear..........
i completely agree with these lines that 'every rose has it's thorns'.........
and iam damn sure that this neel oberoi is also a flawed character.......
and as the track proceeds further more aspects of his character will be gradually revealed.......
and yes this is the best cameo so far in MJHT...........
and amit is really portraying this character perfectly..........

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Navz šŸ¤— šŸ¤— šŸ¤— OMG u r back sweety missed ya šŸ¤—šŸ¤—

wow where have u been was pleasantly surprised by ur post hon

i agree sweety this is a SaJan track no 2 ways abt it - but then do we ever get one w/o haddis šŸ˜†

i agree with u abt the fact that in morena he was the male version of Gunjan - a geek as well - like she was termed by ppl

but then hon surely i cant see Gunjan as -ve but who is 2 say neel is +ve . i mean we all are innocent , naive as kids , but in the process of growing up we do change dont we ?

i mean look at gunji herself .. from the girl with a stage fright she's now an actress !! not only that she has now shed her inhibitions about PDA too rem she was so shy when sam & she met , she would even be aghast at him holding her hand, next rem the scene after they come back from morena - she asks Sam not to say the words BF & GF loudly or their balcony scene .. and now just a few days back she hugged Sam in the canteen .. time makes ppl change navz

so who is to say he is still the male version of that gunjan who has so evolved herself ...

i agree with ur last line ; he'd be
helping Gunjan achiever her dream, which is not this movie, but a life with Sam.

but it wont be in the way u put it hon as if that were the case - as u say him being as kind as gunjan was - then there would be no spice in this track right šŸ˜‰ sheena was after all -ve too , so may be he wont be all out -ve but he can be grey right ?

next also if he is all that good why cant he tell sam where are they shooting ?
love makes us desperate Navz.. desperate enough to do anything .. so really this is also a part bothering me .. perhaps u are right and i am wrong , perhaps both of us are only thing i am certain of is so far we have seen only a part of neel oberoi only the future episodes can unravel to us what a mystery he is šŸ˜‰
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: aahana86

Navz šŸ¤— šŸ¤— šŸ¤— OMG u r back sweety missed ya šŸ¤—šŸ¤—

wow where have u been was pleasantly surprised by ur post hon

i agree sweety this is a SaJan track no 2 ways abt it - but then do we ever get one w/o haddis šŸ˜†

i agree with u abt the fact that in morena he was the male version of Gunjan - a geek as well - like she was termed by ppl

but then hon surely i cant see Gunjan as -ve but who is 2 say neel is +ve . i mean we all are innocent , naive as kids , but in the process of growing up we do change dont we ?

i mean look at gunji herself .. from the girl with a stage fright she's now an actress !! not only that she has now shed her inhibitions about PDA too rem she was so shy when sam & she met , she would even be aghast at him holding her hand, next rem the scene after they come back from morena - she asks Sam not to say the words BF & GF loudly or their balcony scene .. and now just a few days back she hugged Sam in the canteen .. time makes ppl change navz


so who is to say he is still the male version of that gunjan who has so evolved herself ...

i agree with ur last line ; he'd be
helping Gunjan achiever her dream, which is not this movie, but a life with Sam.

but it wont be in the way u put it hon as if that were the case - as u say him being as kind as gunjan was - then there would be no spice in this track right šŸ˜‰ sheena was after all -ve too , so may be he wont be all out -ve but he can be grey right ?

next also if he is all that good why cant he tell sam where are they shooting ?
love makes us desperate Navz.. desperate enough to do anything .. so really this is also a part bothering me .. perhaps u are right and i am wrong , perhaps both of us are only thing i am certain of is so far we have seen only a part of neel oberoi only the future episodes can unravel to us what a mystery he is šŸ˜‰



aahana, people dont change, there is always a growth in their character !!! What Gunjan has become from her first day in Mumbai to now is a growth in her character, she hasn't changed ! A change would be if she turned into someone like Sheena, so that answers your questions, that even coming into the showbiz world, Neil's character has grown, but in his heart he is still the guy from Morena, who is a male version of Gunjan.

He is not a negative character, Infact he is just as a catalyst in this track, who put the lives and minds of all the main leads into prespective !! With every epi my instinct about him being a positive character grows even more.

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