Neel Oberoi : Every Rose Has It's Thorns - Page 4

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Posted: 15 years ago
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@ Navz Lets see sweets still something tells me he isnt as easy as it seems

ok i agree the thing abt Gunji it's growth hon - yes change was just the word which came to my mind u see atm

but call t change/growth it's good in the end 😊
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Posted: 15 years ago
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well said. even neel has his flaws. right nw they are hidden. the thing bothering me is why didnt he tell sam the location of the shooting. i mean sam is gun' s bf & he has every right to know. neel shld nt have stopped sam frm going and talking to gunjan. what they do and hw they handle their rel is in their hands. he has no right to interfere. the other day he told gun that he didnt mind if she said no to the film as her rel with sam is more imp. but today he used that very excuse-the film- to stop sam frm meeting her.
as far as sams maturity is concerned i respect sam a lot and refuse to blieve that he is immature. he proved his maturity in the recovery track. the fact that he was willing to go to any extent even endangering his life to make gun ok shows that he is mature. and this proves that his love for her is true. all in all i just want to say that one day or the other neels true colours will b revealed and it is just a matter of time. hopefully neel will b gone soon and we will see sajan together and happy again.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@navs hon....i wanna go on hugging u for this🤗.....i had this same pov abt neil espclly in conjunction with gunjan's ref during sheena's track which i wanted to write and am so very glad that u have written it so beautifully 🤗

@aahana....twinnie first i thot i will refrain myself from posting here but then i cudnt 😆😆.......okiess i love this neil character but thats not d reason am writing here coz i know i love sajan equally
.......or is it d reason🤣.... rem in our last discussion u said it will be about samrat's strength and belief in gunjan but the track is turning around abt sam's insecurities.....there's nothing wrong in being in-secured coz that shows the depth of ur love n fear of losing sum1 u love.....n am loving samrat for showing it....but i see his flaws as well n since it is not about him i will refrain from saying them except saying one thing...u need to love a person with their inefficiencies n imperfections but sumtimes certain things if overlooked by our blind love can turn harmful for the person in question, at such times ur love shud help them overcome those n not overlook those, which is what gunji is doing.

okie but this topic is about neil so i will get on with that.....i dont know where this belief about neil being perfect came in....he is matured but CVs never tried to portray him as a perfectionist....he is methodical in his working but so is samrat when it comes to strategies about basket ball game.....they r just showing the strength of the individual in their profession....even gunur in their talk hail him for his maturity.......i personally wud say he's flawed in sum way coz he cud never ever got to confess his love to gunji when he had the time and oppr .......that shows he's as unsure abt what needs to be done at what time like another individual.......but even if he's a perfectionist, wats to say he cant be just becoz another person is not?

N if we have to measure his maturity against all the others, sure he is way ahead......well thats his strength so we cant say he looks unreal becoz of having one extra brownie point over another individual.........samrat is quite matured n we have seen traces of that in various track but not as much when it comes to certain imp issues which is wat CVs r trying to show thru his insecurity wrapped in a cloak so far,for this track and which makes sense acc to me......

am sure the reason gunji n nupur appreciated neil's maturity was becoz every woman wishes that her man is as matured as she is but thats hardly ever the case coz women by nature r more calm n serene to respond to issues than reacting to them hence they dont get carried away by emotions.....but there r guys like neil no doubt who dont let nething ruffle their feathers easily....their approach is be reasonable and get to the solution, which is wat neil did.....we shud know that when we encourage our partner in their dreams, we support them fully anticipating the hardships ahead.........if we step off as fans for a min we ourselves can agree that such rumors r part of showbiz so ignoring them is more the way to go about than messing with the reporters......even in daily existence we advice our near n dear ones to ignore n be indifferent towards wats not good for our system.....😉

And from wat I have seen of neil so far, I have no reason to believe that he needs to be negative....why does he advice samrat........quite simple n as he stated....he did it coz he loves n respects gunjan so nething for her happiness....infact he has been selfish here....he didnt advice him out of ne goodness for samrat and he made no bones about it....he was straight forward in his approach.....if ur friend has an issue with anyone whom u may not know say her BF or family or ne1, wont u try to intervene knowing it may mean a lot to ur friend n can make a diff to her happiness, even though u may not like doing it or u may not even like the person...its same here right????

Secondly i dont know why is it so hard to believe neil may want to do good by Gunjan. She has been his inspiration all his life, she fought for him when every1 bullied him, she encouraged him when no one was there for him......she became a source of love which drove him to achieve something in his life.....n now when he wants to reciprocate he has no chance coz she's spoken for but still y shud that hamper him in doing good by her......that wud be like demeaning the inspiration she had become n her friendship.....just becoz the person u love doesnt love u back does not mean u cant see that person happy with sum1 else.....true love is the ability to put the needs of ur love before everything....even before ur hurt and happiness.......love always doesnt need reciprocation to be felt with a depth......its an individualistic feeling which has tons of strength in itself to sustain it... ...of course nothing equals the bliss of reciprocation ....but true love cherishes d happiness of ur loved one than ur own defeat.........sometimes if we give to a person more than we r capable of in-spite of it not being reciprocated, it doesn't have to mean we r being great or generous....there cud be simple thot that we love the person wholeheartedly n unconditionally n can give them love knowing we get nothing in return which causes u hurt, but all of that is worthwhile if it means a smile on ur love's face, a ray of hope n happiness in their life😊.......

okie i just gave my POV.........with no intention to hurt ne1's feelings so apologies if it hurt ne1😉....n CVs can turn him grey netime coz thats their choice but at the moment to me d possibility looks very less and i wud be surely disappointed if CVs turn this most phenomenal cameo of MJHT into sumthing diff, rather than shaping his character with the intrinsic attributes they have shown so far
....n yes just becoz i like neil doesnt mean i love sajan ne less.😆😆...for me SAJAN r truly meant for each other , with or without their imperfections😍
Edited by meens1981 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Neal Oberai Asman se Gira and Khajur per Atka....
What a character... Bachpan se hee pyar karta hai Gunjan se..wow.. kya insaan hai.. Poor gunjan .she is so innocent.. freindship ke liye movie kar rahee hai .. apna studies ignore karke.. she never used ot ignore her classes and studies..very insteresting
I m quite interested to know about neil now.. what exactly will he do with gunjan and samrat.. he is playing his game very professionally..
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Edited by arjunratifanno1 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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now neil will know wat is Samrat😉
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Amazingg topic dear..👏
Loved it....
I totally agree with you...
Every rose have thorn....
Neil is a guy which everyone think is perfect...
But he is not perfect....Everyone have not all the things they will have..Neil came too Mumbai to meet Gunjan..But when he did know about Gunjan he backed of...I like the characters im MJHT Coz all look soo real on life...No faking...And I hope he will not be negative...He is totally sweetheart when its coming too supporting Gunjan and Samrat in their lovestory....😳
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Meens aww how can u even say u wanna stay away from my post 😲 that is so mean of u .. u know i love ur takes so when u feel like u have something to share pls do 😳

next ok well i see u and Navz supporting this guy from ur POV's ... somewhere perhaps u r even right about him not being -ve

but the thing which made me post this thread was how some people based on just a few episodes have started quoting Samrat as perhaps being far too immature for Gunjan and neel as the man 4 her

i mean what 2/3 weeks and they feel SaJan shd split that's Insane ...i agree his way of dealing things is diff from Sam but to compare them is unreasonable

we know Sam' past almost 100% - i am saying almost cause we are still 2 see his parents - perhaps the day of which will never come and also yet to learn of the reason for their divorce .. perhaps it is his dad' inability to make time for his family , perhaps not who knows ?

i mean a divorce just doesn't happen outta the blue right ?

Sam' phobias ard marriage are due to his parents - but he's slowly shaking them too now - see how last night he says - chashmish i wanna be with you always, but how ?

he has began asking himself that question - so that for me is a +ve sign - at least now he' waking up to reality thou the trigger may be his insecurities

love may be strong meens but it makes a man vulnerable - scared to death of losing his beloved esp if its someone like Samrat - a guy who had been alone all his life and he build his defenses - that fake smile, that attitude to protect how scared he is ... but she broke thru to them .. she reached a part of him no one ever had before , has or can ever do - she reached his heart hon - for the first time he lost his pretenses - but was glad of it - cause if u rem - his 1 line - it so reflects the man he is -

'Hum bheed main kho jaana chahte hai, par sach toh yeh hai ki hum dil se chahte hai ki koi humme us bheed main bhi dhoondh le '

thats what has happened for them hon - he was lost in a crowd - he wanted to loose himself within them to deal with his demons - his hurt and anger - his loneliness of a past that still hurts him - but he wanted always to be found - and she did exactly that - find him

and so he' been reckless these days , so scared even he freaks out at the way he is reacting - cause meens that man is terribly scared of being lost all over again

i would call it his fear, his gullible nature and his vulnerability - not his immaturity hon - as some ppl are saying it - meens to me we are never so helplessly weak nor so incredibly strong in a strange irony as when we are in love

coming to neel he is a jigsaw even now to me - perhaps u and Navz have struck gold with ur predictions - and i hope u guys are so right cause that would mean he wont be a scheming psycho - pls sick of such things 🤢

but yet his intentions aren't so clear to me even now - cause if he truly respects and accepts Gunjan' decision then why did he say those words after Sam' apology to that journo - Ki Gunjan tum kitni innocent ho tumhe kya nahi pata tumhare liye accha kya hai ? Samrat aur tum bilkul alag ho

and next him not revealing the location to sam as well is confusing

i mean fine as u say he advised Sam 4 Gunjan' sake but how can he presume things w/o knowing a thing about them ? we all have phases meens when we are somehow out of focus and control in our lives and do not know why or exactly how we are behaving - but does that make us wrong

also he could have said it to sam he had loved and lost - but taking Gunjan' name was a shocker - i mean as u are comparing him 2 Gunjan - during sheena' phase she wouldnt even let Nups say things to Sam - and here he is doing so himself - so doesnt that kinda make it a tad bit diff

i am telling you hon this is perhaps the most complex track SaJan have got and everyday we see such new things and twists that it leaves us just with one common thing at the end of each epi - what next ?? so yes kinda looking forward 2 d unraveling of it - to see where exactly have the chips fallen 😉
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@aahana ,...hon sorry i didnt mean it like that🤗....i meant i wud not have written coz i have a totally diff pov here bat neil n i know for sure am in minority😆😆 but that still doesn't change my belief😆😆

n yep sam is meant for gunjan n no one suits her better than him with or without his baggage from past, his insecurities, his childlike acts, his imperfections just like she suits him to T with her shy , introvert, not regular classic beauty, n with her share of imperfections....but these r the very things gunji fell in love with ......

well am no way supporting a POV that neil is better than samrat for gunjan n etc etc.....in fact there can be no comparison bet two individuals except the fact that neil appears more matured over ne1 else but that is becoz he has seen the world, has made sumthing of himself while all others r still coll going kids n slowly waking up to realities of life ..if all of us had to live with matured perfect people am sure marriages wud not b so easy to come by😆😆

precisely why i said neil is not perfect, he has his flaws....in his thirst to make sumthing of his life first n then search for gunjan he lost the most precious thing of his life......making obvious mistakes alone need not cite imperfection, unknowingly done deeds also show our flaws albeit we r late to see n realize them.....

n yep am all the way with samrat when it comes to his acts in this track so far....sometimes u have to wake up to life in hard ways n poor sammy has to do it the hard way thanks to his always missing parents n d wonderful fun filled childhood which was deprived of him.....in fact as i have been imagining it the track is bringing sam out of his phobias.....i loved it yest when he said he wants to find a way to be with his lady love forever....thats surely the first step out of the shadows....n am gonna be feeling terribly bad when this reporter's article is gonna create a mess...samrat, thanks to d grt guidance yest, is going to be the victim in this whole fiasco, he turned to his friends coz he was caught up in turmoil but unfortunately uday n benji had clouded his judgment further....i wish he had listened to his heart when he said he believes in neil to an extent

well i didnt say he's perfect hon😳😳 so he can think what he likes but that doesnt make it right......he may have believed in samrat not being right for her but thats his desolate heart trying to assuage his sub conscious mind which is feeling inferior n low to samrat when it has lost its love which was never his to him......common human tendencies, ...denial followed by acceptance... when he saw the depth with which gunjan went n hugged samrat...i agree people can do lots of things when they r vulnerable ...thats y i said CVs can turn it around ne way n they can justify it in d name of possessed or obsessed love but that will kill the beauty with which they made this strong char........well i am hoping my pov comes true but nothing say CVs wont turn it arnd 180 in today's epi itself but thats still MJHT for u😉

well theres a diff here why he took gunjan's name.... giving the same perspective he did it all for gunjan's happiness, he tells him her name to make him realize what he may lose out on before he realizes the need to cure himself of his insecurities coz gunjan only loves him, he has nothing to fear n how much more it will hurt him if he lost it coz he(neil) was going thur the pain himself, he was giving a perspective coz it meant happiness for gunjan but left to himself alone he need not have been generous to samrat in showing him a pov at the cost of baring his vulnerabilities...gunjan never told him or allowed nups to tell coz she believed she had no chance of winning over samrat as he had his interest elsewhere at tht time n nups telling him wud put a burden on him, she thot for his benefit , it wud have achieved nothing for them except heart aches thats y she didnt allow nups to tell him the truth....here i am willing to give benefit of doubt to neil that he did it out of same goodness , putting gunjan's happiness before him .....well not telling him her location may look mysterious but thats precisely i said why d char can be turned grey by CVs if they want to....but looking at precap i doubt it coz he conveys the message without ne malice to gunji., so it may genuinely have been to give sammy sum time to think over in peace.......so am still hoping that he will remain positive...rest cant say wat CVs have planned out😆😆....

n am with samrat totally in his journey of overcoming his insecurities n phobia as much as i believe in the positivity of neil's char....

assuming neil remains positive, he has only defeat to take back home as his achievement hon coz sajan r n always will be together.....so my heartfelt sympathies r with the neil who will be left with nothing but memoirs of a dream that never ever took wings or sprouted from their roots.....n trust me ur body becomes a tough place for ur soul to reside in when u r laden with disappointment n loss of a lifetime of if onlys'........all this provided his char remains positive but if not i will be content to have liked n believed in wat i have seen so far of this char

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Posted: 15 years ago
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brilliant topic aahana
i really agree with u
the character of neil is very interesting for me
the name of the topic is really perfect...neil is a rose with thorns
amazing topic
Edited by Januable_Sajan - 15 years ago

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