The misogynistic dislike for Pallavi - Page 7

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calm down any fandom of any shows are emotionally attached to ML..

but i can guaranty u this is not a forum but a family i bet on that because we welcome views open heartily and that we have maintained it will always maintain .

this forum is filled with amazing ppl with amazing views and all are matured here .

lets keep forum healthy ..

i think u mixed social media group with forum .

even if fanbase supports raghu over pallu we have no problems because makers have shown redemption so well with raghu and we love both pallu and raghu equally

we all are welcome debates we dont question them .

everyone has rights to express what they feel and ya forum is welcomed to all we shouldn't forget it

hope u understand no need to go hyper ...

freedom of speech u see ..

life is short so enjoy everybody's views and stick to ur views and let others too have one

Originally posted by: Ahlaam5

I'm actually surprised at how everyone is crying for Raghav here and the extreme dislike I'm seeing for Pallavi from some people.

After everything Raghav pulled, everyone seems to have amnesia or selective memory loss. He literally made her homeless, yes the fault/blame lies with her father in law but don't tell me Raghav didn't know what the outcome of his performance would be in such society, blackmailed her into a marriage amongst a hundred other things and yet he's easily forgiven because he's hot💁🏽‍♀️

From what I can tell, a lot of the fanbase seem to be females and are willing to look the other way to all Raghav's faults.

But as soon as Pallavi unknowingly makes a mistake, the hatred/dislike for her is out of the stratosphere.

I keep seeing strong dislike for her after the chilli incident and people saying Amma should put her in her place.

After the stuff Raghav has pulled with her, why should she give him the benefit of the doubt, Raghav literally has given her no reason to trust him and has fallen to such low levels before.

Also any child would get revenge for their parents after what Raghav pulled with her in laws, now I'm no fan of physical abuse, neither of those two men (or the mother in law) are mature and seem to bring out the worst in each other.

I'm pretty sure Pallavi only heard half of the story and honestly it's in character for Raghav to pull such a stunt so why shouldn't she get revenge. If someone hit or tried to hit my parents, I would have hit them back or sent them to jail.

Ofcourse her in-laws don't deserve being called parents, that's a different matter and hopefully a part of Pallavi's growth as a character (if we're lucky), but at the end of the days Pallavi has always seen them as her own parents and because of her not having any other parental figures until Amma, she's unfortunately willing to overlook their conditional love for her because she's starved for a parents love.

Just because we all know Raghav is slowly trying to redeem himself doesn't mean he won't make countless of mistakes on the way and that doesn't mean Pallavi should have to overlook them instead of pointing it out just because he's trying.

Raghav initially was wrong in this whole debacle with the loan, he has no right to interfere in someone else's life. Let them make their mistake in their bullheadedness, he tried to stop them and when they refused to listen, he should have walked away instead of escalating it.

I love to see the slow development of these two flawed characters into becoming more understanding and less foolhardy but it's funny how much people rip into Pallavi for her flaws and for not seeing the good side of Raghav and how much people turn a blind eye to or easily forgive Raghav reckless and often rotten if not full on disgusting behaviour, and all this because he's very very hot.

Peak misogyny!

Ofcourse the more rational thing for Pallavi to do was ask for Raghav's side of the story and then talk it out instead of such petty revenge but he's lucky all he got was mirchi tbh.

I love both characters to be honest but I'm just tired of the blind worship for male leads.

👌 Much needed post.. I have seen comments like Jaya should put her in her place.. scold her n all .. seriously.. being females we want mother in law to ill treat daughter in law just cuz she pulled a prank.. unknowingly did a mistake..

Originally posted by: Ubiquitos

Raghav gets a loads of free pass, because woh toh aisa hi hai. Personally more than the paisa throwing part and izzat uchhalna part on her, I found his offering money and deal part for marriage so insulting, because that wasn't something out of anger or revenge, it was how his character was, and it got free pass because woh toh aisa hi hai... Not to forget when he got her to sign the papers for shop...All of these can make you hate that person for life, because it's manipulation preying on your weaknesses, how easily can one trust that person? So I get it when Pallu is sceptical about his intentions... And chilli powder was just a silly prank gone wrong, nothing more... I was amused by her reaction to it, it's a progress from before.. This time she even thought Raghav would eat it, if she served it with sweetness, that itself is a progress. 😆😆

I like how Raghav Rao as a character is written, and the same cannot be said for Pallavi.. I loved her when used to be spunky, and so dedicated towards her saree shop and being the anchor of the family. But then came the abortion track, and then came the absurdity. Then they threw her out and then came the forceful marriage. 🤣🤣

Who can relate to such things? 🤣

There are so many times when one lead gets blamed in a love story, because of poor writing and because of enormous expectations from characters. It's totally okay if the people are not on same page in a love story. It's okay if one's love is more passionate than the other. Characters are characters, not wish fulfilling fairies.. If Pallavi is blind in her family love, that is what it is... You cannot do anything about that. It's an imperfect show with non relatable characters..Raghav was estranged by his own blood family for years, but in the end the family remains family... The same goes for deshmukhs.. Vijay wouldn't have been so hurt or so angry, if Pallavi was nobody to him... He is a toxic character, but he can have his own shades.. He gave his saree shop as a gift to Pallavi, even though in ego, he wouldn't have done that if she was nobody to him. He wouldn't have stopped talking about how Pallavi is, if she was nothing to him. And his mistakes are out there, as mistakes. There is no justification for them, period.

But relationships are complex and much beyond 'they-don't-deserve-her' and he-doesn't-deserve-her.. It's not about algorithm of who deserves whom, it's about your attachment to people. What's the point of life if you don't have people to share the joy of achievements with? You can't be too dependent on them, you need to have self respect, in that aspect Pallu is ready to sideline herself, because she puts relations before herself, I get that. However in today's age, such characters are hard to relate to, because you do get angry at people, you taunt them sometimes, you complain to them sometimes...Pallu hardly does any of that, to her in-laws.. Because she has made them sort of godly... Because they gave her something she craved for. She needs to understand that even parental relationships need understanding, trust and friendship, not just blind obedience and respect. If Vijay was like a father to her, he would have thought about her for a moment at least, why is she not disappointed in him? Why doesn't she expect anything from him? That's where her problem as a character lies, she doesn't have any bad feelings, even of small magnitudes towards deshmukhs... How is that possible? How can she not confront her own family members about the lack of trust, attachment from their side? How can she not ask them why they have given Sulo and Amrutha free pass in their home? But then, that would mean giving time to Pallavi as a character, which CVs are not able to. Right now she is just the female part in a love story, nothing more... Man why do I get so serious about characters ?🤣

Pallu as a character was always meant to be criticised with the labels like doormat, typical ITV FL and all.. It's part of the package for such characters.

It's just a show. People should just chill and enjoy the ride. Even I don't like Pallu when she goes on her idealism spree.. I would have loved her to not give a shit about the Raos or Deshmukhs and just get the f*** out of there.. 🤣🤣

I would have lodged a police complaint or made a media scandal out of the marriage if I was her.. Or rather I would have demanded compensation for ruining my life.. But she just put it mildly.. Because she is not me.. 😆 Chill hai bandi, second chance bhi de diya, ghamandi Rao ko apna bhi liya subconsciously.. Aur kya chahiye?? Agar Deshmukhs ke liye self respect side ki hai, toh Raghav ke liye bhi ki hai... People don't see that. Because Raghav said he was sorry, doesn't mean what he broke in her comes back. He did break her inner self. I mean that was epic humiliation for her from all sides.. To give that person a chance in marriage is a big deal... People don't see that.

Chalo, end of the rant. 😆

Nicely put.. loved it.. it should be a separate thread. :-)

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

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Three cheer for team anna..

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Agree with you..

I actually loved Pallavi taking some revenge against Raghav.. that's what I was expecting in after marriage cause that's what CVs promised in their promo. I was very disappointed with the way in which they showed Pallavi in the next few episodes after marriage. She was very cool and smirking as if nothing happened. Then they revealed their main misunderstanding keerti scandal with in a few episodes itself. I expected this misunderstanding to continue for at least a month cause the promo hyped up the revenge track. If revenge track had to continue then misunderstandings must continue but unfortunately nothing like that happened. Personally I would have loved if CVs didn't push this track in such a high speed. Redemption should have come after a month and after that Love then this would have been beautiful.

Your claim that some members are misogynistic.. well I have seen things like that in most of these kind of Love-Hate genre shows... Most girls will end up being madly in love with the ML and hating the FL... The worst I have seen is in IPK forum... IPK forum was literally hell 😂😂and sometimes in Ishqbaaz forum...

Anyway I believe it has something to do with women psychology.. Don't take me wrong, I'm also a woman but I believe women in general like more masculine badboy, misogynistic types of men... If you look at who buys trash like 50 shades of grey which celebrates BDSM then that's like more than 90% women also it was written by a woman.. mehh..😵.. Men doesn't buy trash like that. 😂

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

This rant deserves a separate thread. I agree whole heartedly with each and every word. There is no point in justifying one over the other honestly. Though I agree with the original post that its very common to see fans (mostly females) being way too lenient with the ML compared to the FL. One reason for that is because FL's are less relatable in today's age as you rightly pointed out..They typically have two versions- a doormat version for their families and a feisty version for their ''heroes''.. I wish they start writing the FL's character sketch that is more in sync with how women are in real life..women who can take a stand for themselves no matter who they are confronting. I would have loved to see Pallavi turn around and confront Vijay Deshmukh then and there and question his moral values, judgement and trust on her that was so weak that even an outsider could break it so easily. But somehow ITV are just not willing to take that risk. They want the FL to be respectful of their elders and families at all times and be forgiving no matter what which is what confuses the fans when she doesn't apply the same yardsticks to judge or in this case forgive the ''hero'' even if he does the most terrible things to her..

I have many such rants in my head, but my exams are going on and honestly sometimes shows are not worth it, but you need to get it off your chest.

Comparing or justifying one lead over the another is a slippery slope mostly, one because they are two different people coming from different situations with different character traits. Two, because male and female psychology and their role in relationships is not exactly same.

The two versions of females - so rightly pointed out. They could work in back days when family structures were different. I guess, while remaking the shows or plots, they need to think of the modern context too and not just copy paste the scenarios. Dialogues and certain situations reek of purane jamaane ki soch here and there. That all is fine, if they are well according to characters and situations. Because in society, certain things still exist.

In real life, females can voice out their opinions in such matters with terms and conditions applied -

One she has to be financially independent or be capable enough.

Two she grew up in a liberal environment.

Three she has genuine relationship with parents, where voicing out opinions doesn't impact their relationship.

Coming to this show,

Deshmukhs are selectively liberal. Actually far from the word liberal. The only liberal (read nice) thing they have done is not allowing Pallu to feel bad about herself and giving her dignity and respect that she deserved. But I would say she earned it. I would also give them brownie points for thinking about her remarriage. However, their opinions on Amrutha track, not going out in night, and then their distrust on Pallavi and the outrage that followed up is well hypocritical society. That could be compensated by having one sane voice in that deshmukh family who believes in rationality and justice. But no, all of them quite unidimensional characters with mostly no mind of their own and puppet to the situations. Because poor writing - so all they do is make confused faces and follow the rest of the herd.

Apart from the mindset problem in families and internalised obedience in females on ITV, there is something which ITV fails to recognize - the turmoil in these relationships. Howsoever be the family structures, the emotions remain the same. There has to be hurt on both sides in these girl vs family equations. There has to be affection on both sides. There has to be moments of weakness, when one wants to put their idealism or societal norms aside. Parents accept their children so readily and hide their children's mistakes in real life, because they care about their future a lot. That's where Deshmukhs and ITV writers fail. It's never black and white.

There is another problem with ITV - if a female confronts their family members or raises her voice - she is considered selfish and somewhat bitchy and immature. And that's not considered a character flaw by the way.

She can confront Raghav, because Raghav hasn't earned her respect and is equal on equational level, also he is a new addition to her life. She can confront deshmukhs too in a mild way at least, you can confront your parents and siblings, and people do that in real life. However this relationship isn't secure enough to leave room for confrontation I believe. Aai- baba word is a disguise, because they don't want to live in the past, and they believed in that role play because it was very comforting for both parties. They have not shown that unconditional love that aais and babas are capable of. Pallu doesn't know that. And I want that fact to be highlighted in the show.

Also, Pallu said she will come back to house only after the truth comes out, but then she got married, and all the ties seemed to be broken - this wasn't highlighted btw. Again why she didn't want to talk to them personally about their accusations even after Raghav tried to clear out her name - the logic fails me. If she wants to work on deshmukh family equation - she should just go there and deliver a monologue, and gauze their reactions. But she won't, because Raghav is the one doing that job. And he needs to get approval first from deshmukhs and approval from Pallavi that he will be a trustworthy husband. However, in doing so, in making Raghav or Rao family better than deshmukhs, it's Pallavi and Deshmukhs who are being compromised as characters. They need to work on that.

Phir se rant ho gayi. 🤣🤣

I want to be angry at raghav but then he takes his shirt off which confuses me. My small teenage brain which does not know any better gets awash with hormones and loses sense of what is right and wrong 😱

yaar the best part of this fandom is that we doNOT TAKE ANYTHING TOO SERIOUSLY .. today we are pretend hurt and tomorrow we will all make vms on pallu ki godi mein rr ka sir.. so don't let it affect too much.. and misogyny is too strong a word.. this is all very temporary.. we are raghvi fans and jab jo galti kart hai use jee bhar ke dhoom dhadaam karte hai.. but pyarr in dono se bahut karte hai.. ho sakta hai yeh sirf mere hi thoughts ho.. par log anti pallu ho gaye hai aisa to impossible hai

shabaash ...bilkul naam roshan kar rahe ho raghvi fandom ka👍🏼🤗

Originally posted by: Keerthi.02

I want to be angry at raghav but then he takes his shirt off which confuses me. My small teenage brain which does not know any better gets awash with hormones and loses sense of what is right and wrong 😱

so very true.. i remember criticising raghav and criticising pallu equally.. we never bashed and never held a grudge..the best evidence will be tomorrow's episode when people will be making song recommendations for raghvi vms ..raghvi fandom kapyar jaise maa ka pyar hota hai ..chanta bhi marenge aur pyaar bhi karenge

Originally posted by: Muktchand

I think you are highly mistaken this forum never known as blind pankhi of any character be Raghav or Pallavi

One two members might show their displeasure but what I see from two three months most sane fandom of IF

No fan war no off-screen gossip nothing

Most rational fans of characters and show. I never saw any biased views