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Posted: 11 years ago
most of them were not from geeta, i ment.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: shyam09

nah I think it works in favor of the whole "Krishna isn't divine" thing they are trying to put out.

See if young Krishna can predict the future and regular Krishna can't, it simply means that StarKrishna is losing his mind and memory as he ages which tells us that he is not divine and he is not God.

These people are so brilliant ... they are StarBrilliant!! 😆

(that joke sounded much better in my mind ...)


Agree totally ! The entire 'Krishnaleela' track has been more than disappointing .
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Arijit007

only those who are ignorent about the scriptures are confused by the portreyal.


Do the scriptures say what they have shown StarKrishna to say? Even if I read between the lines, the portrayal is inconsistent. I have read some retellings of MB, and as far as I can remember none of them have Krishna saying such things. I would be glad to be proven otherwise.

You might not have meant it, but I am certainly not ignorant about MB, which I think is all that matters during a MB discussion, considering that MB is supposed to be the oldest of all the puranas. I take it as an offence being called ignorant. It's just that my belief systems are different from those of everybody else over here. I know nobody here is interested in knowing them but I'll still spell them out anyway. For me there is only one absolute higher power. And it does not have any name, form or definition or solution to moksha, certainly does not not come to earth to abolish adharma. And history is testimony to that. I 'believe' in the theory of evolution and the laws of nature verified by science rather than creationism. That does not mean I think lowly of those who do so without falling a victim to blind faith. (nothing personal about anybody here).
Edited by Ashwini_D - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Arijit007

only those who are ignorent about the scriptures are confused by the portreyal.


Soi Janahi Jehi Dehu Janai
Janat Tumahi Tumahi Hoi Jayi

😉
Edited by DrModel - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
the cv's are at fault, not the charecter, the cv's are trying to justify their mistakes through star krishna, otherwise star krishna is just like epic's krishna, and sheena, please tell me the meaning of the doha, my avadhi is a little weak.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Arijit007

the cv's are at fault, not the charecter, the cv's are trying to justify their mistakes through star krishna, otherwise star krishna is just like epic's krishna, and sheena, please tell me the meaning of the doha, my avadhi is a little weak.


Thanks for the clarification. Apologies for my accusatory tone. I was hoping you did not mean what I thought you meant by your last post.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Ashwini_D


You might not have meant it, but I am certainly not ignorant about MB, which I think is all that matters during a MB discussion, considering that MB is supposed to be the oldest of all the puranas. I take it as an offence being called ignorant. It's just that my belief systems are different from those of everybody else over here. I know nobody here is interested in knowing them but I'll still spell them out anyway. For me there is only one absolute higher power. And it does not have any name, form or definition or solution to moksha, certainly does not not come to earth to abolish adharma. And history is testimony to that. I 'believe' in the theory of evolution and the laws of nature verified by science rather than creationism. That does not mean I think lowly of those who do so without falling a victim to blind faith. (nothing personal about anybody here).


Ashwi, your post is very contradictory
You consider MB as oldest of purana and then in same breath almost dismiss the person called God in the purana. It is okay if you dismiss it, but as far as I know, in India, puranas are usually stories depicting some God or other. So you cannot consider MB as a purana while dismissing krishna as God.

Anyway still that is your opinion.

I want to point out your statement of falling victim to blind faith is also very judgemental, assumptive and again contradictory.

You can "believe" in evolution but if someone else believes in something else, it is victim to faith.
Differentiate between to believe and to have faith please.

You believe because you have theories verified by science, which in itself can be argued stands on a lot of hypothesis and beliefs itself,
So what gives you any right to question anyone's faith and judge them as falling victim?

A person can believe in Evolution and yet have faith in certain God.
I find it no way contradictory, since I myself do so.
How would you judge someone like me then?

Anyway sorry for butting in between Arijit and You.
I just felt, you should not have generalised something and being so judgemental.

Edited by LeadNitrate - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: LeadNitrate


Ashwi, your post is very contradictory
You consider MB as oldest of purana and then in same breath almost dismiss the person called God in the purana. It is okay if you dismiss it, but as far as I know, in India, puranas are usually stories depicting some God or other. So you cannot consider MB as a purana while dismissing krishna as God.

Anyway still that is your opinion.

I want to point out your statement of falling victim to blind faith is also very judgemental, assumptive and again contradictory.

You can "believe" in evolution but if someone else believes in something else, it is victim to faith.
Differentiate between to believe and to have faith please.

You believe because you have theories verified by science, which in itself can be argued stands on a lot of hypothesis and beliefs itself,
So what gives you any right to question anyone's faith and judje them as falling victim?

A person can believe in Evolution and yet have faith in certain God.
I find it no way contradictory, since I myself do so.
How would you judge someone like me then?

Anyway sorry for butting in between Arijit and You.
I just felt, you should not have generalised something and being so judgemental.


Aplogies. What I meant was-" MB is older than the Puranas'. As far as falling victim to blind faith is concerned, like I have pointed out in my post I did not mean it personally to anybody here and certainly not to Arijit. I do not know him personally and have no right to judge him. What I meant by blind faith was 'appeal to religious authority or God to substantiate your arguments and reasoning'. What you say about the theory of evolution is correct. That is why I put the word 'believe' in "'believe' in the theory of evolution" in quotes. I know how scientific research goes to some extent. And it can be as wrong and faulty as religion. After all, even the theory of evolution is just a theory, except for the fact that it has been put to rigorous test by many scientists now.

I thought I had the right to defend myself and hence replied to Arijit's post thinking that it implied I was ignorant of the scriptures, while still considering the possibility of me misinterpreting him. I have apologized for that and apologize again. And why should I judge you when even I'm still trying to understand that elusive higher power and trying to reconcile it with science. And I definitely do not think lowly of people having different set of beliefs than me.

I am extremely sorry for my tone in my last post, which came across as accusatory, when I had no intention of doing so.

Sorry mods for veering this discussion to something not relevant to the EDT.

Edit: When I say I believe in a higher power, I do so based on my personal experiences, not because I've read about it or have heard people preach about it. Yeah that may seem contradictory to my statement when I say I also believe in the theory of evolution. It is just that I do not bring in my personal beliefs about that higher power while framing arguments and critiquing that which goes against reason and logic, which I sometimes see happening in this show.
Edited by Ashwini_D - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Ashwini_D

When I say I believe in a higher power, I do so based on my personal experiences, not because I've read about it or have heard people preach about it. Yeah that may seem contradictory to my statement when I say I also believe in the theory of evolution.


Nothing contradictory about it. You know how many people actually believed God does not understand Atom?! (Someone actually did a survey on it😆)

God does many things which it takes humans eons to grasp (if at all) and we explain things the way we understand them at the time.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Some hot debate is going on here I guess. Will have to read back as I have been absent for a couple of days
Before I do that I want to appreciate the actress who played Yashoda

She was awesome 👍🏼
Edited by Nandiniraizaada - 11 years ago

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