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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ...Diala...

Surya.. Parthasarathi should mean 'The Sarathi who saw' if standalone..

Ya, but this is another interpretation... it can also be interpreted as the sarathi who saw, ya. But that would be somewhat..🤢.. I mean, all charioteers see.😆

Add (Jnanigal) parthasarathi. Or (Naan) parthasarathi.
Edited by Surya_krsnbhakt - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
haha.. same way all charioteers can be seen too.. 😆.. anyway am talking about the standalone meaning.. for what you said it should be 'Gnanigal Parthasarathy'
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ...Diala...

haha.. same way all charioteers can be seen too.. 😆.. anyway am talking about the standalone meaning.. for what you said it should be 'Gnanigal Parthasarathy'

now that we donot have a perfect justification for this being the sole delighter of pritha arjun is called parth it can be taken that way or being called by krishna Arjuna became famous as paarth.
Sarathy of paarth has called him by the name so we can take it that way aswell.
Edited by frappie - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: frappie

Guys my new doubt was Kashi kaurava ally in the actual battle considering both Valandhara and Bhanumati were their daughters??????? considering most of kashi princes were DIL's of Kuru dynasty and Kashi had alliance with Hastinapur as such

Duryodhan married a Kalinga Princess.. Name unknown.. birth places of other Kaurava DILs are not known..
But Bhim's Valandhara is a Kasi princess so they should have ideally sided with the Pandavas .. but by a google search this is what I found..

Kasi in Kurukshetra War

Careful examination of Mahabharata, suggests that the Kasis took part in the war, siding with the Pandavas. However there seems to be two exceptions, which suggest that at least a portion of the Kasis, or another Kasi king, sided with Duryodhana.

On Duryodhana's Side

The Son of the King of Kasi
  • (Mahabharata, Book 6, Chapter 51)

And then king Duryodhana advanced cheerfully against the Pandava host. And Bhurisravas, and Sala, and Salya, ... and Kritavarman of Satwata's race, with a very large division of the troops, were, stationed at the rear of the army. And behind them were the rulers of many provinces, and Ketumat, and Vasudana, and the powerful son of the king of Kasi.

  • (Mahabharata, Book 9, Chapter 2)
Dhritarashtra's Reflections

Bhagadatta and Kripa and Shalya ... and Vrihadvala and the ruler of the Kasi and Shakuni the son of Subala and many thousands of Mlecchas and Sakas and Yavanas, and Sudakshina the ruler of the Kambojas and the king of the Trigartas ...and numerous other kings, O best of monarchs, have taken up arms for Duryodhana's sake

On Pandava's Side

March from Upaplavya to Kurukshetra
  • (Mahabharata, Book 5, Chapter 152)

The princes of Kekaya, and Dhrishtaketu, and the son of the king of the Kasis, and Srenimat, and Vasudana, and the invincible Sikhandin, all hale and hearty, cased in armour and armed with weapons and decked with ornaments, marched behind Yudhishthira, towards Kurukshetra.

March further into the war-front
  • (Mahabharata, Book 5, Chapter 199)

Like Duryodhana, king Yudhishthira alsoordered out, O Bharata, his heroic warriors headed by Dhrishtadyumna. Indeed, he ordered that commander of force, that leader of the Chedis, the Kasis, and the Karushas, viz., Dhrishtaketu, as also Virata, and Drupada, and Yuyudhana, and Sikhandin, and those two mighty bowmen, those two princes of Panchala, viz., Yudhamanyu and Uttamaujas, to set out.

Day 1: The kings in the war-front
  • (Mahabharata, Book 6, Chapter 25)

They are Yuyudhana, and Virata, and that mighty car-warrior Drupada, and Dhrishtaketu, and Chekitana, and the ruler of Kasi endued with great energy; and Purujit, and Kuntibhoja, and Saivya that bull among men; and Yudhamanyu of great prowess, and Uttamaujas of great energy ...

Edited by ...Diala... - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Bhanumati was the Kalinga Princess that Duryodhana married..
Will soon post the Excerpt from the KashiDaashi MB ( Original Translation in Bengali ) ..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Wasn't it the King of Kasi who took charge of feeding both sides?


Originally posted by: .Vrish.


The only other wife explicitly mentioned is Nakul's Nirmitra - Dhrishtaketu took her back to Chedi. It's safe to assume that all the Pandava wives, like Subhadra, took their kids w/ them to their parental kingdoms, like Chedi, Kashi, Dwarka, Magadha and so on.

Kunti, very inexplicably, did remain in Hastinapur. When Yudisthir refused to take her in exile, instead of staying w/ Vidura, she should have accompanied Subhadra to Dwarka to stay w/ Vasudev, or she should have gone back to Kuntibhoj.


When the Pandavas came back and Duryodhan refused to give them back their kingdom, was Kunti still in Hastinapur? Where was she staying during the war?

Did the other sons of Pandavas participate in the war? The five sons of Draupadi were killed by Aswathama. What about the others? Did they fight and survive the war?
Edited by Vibhishna - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Vibs

Kunti was still in Hastinapur. That's how she met Karna.

But the other thing that confounds me is - when did Karna rule Anga/Champa/Malini, if he was all the time in Hastinapur w/ Duryodhan obsessing about the Pandavas? Only time I can see from the text is when he got defeated by Bhima during the Rajasuya yagna.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Vrish,

I am not sure if Anga/Champa/Malini was close enough to Hastinapur that Karna was able to visit often.

Maybe the kingdoms were really small and didn't require much work from Karna.

Or, Karna could have retained the title and left the kingdoms under Duryodhan's reign - which I think is highly unlikely...



I still haven't been able to understand why Kunti was stuck to Hastinapur.
Where were the Pandavas staying when they came back from exile and were waging the war? Dwarka?


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Posted: 11 years ago
There are three stories I have heard about Draupadi's past life boon of 5 husbands. which one of the below is true?

1.) She was tired and said " I want a husband" 5 times, hence she was given the boon.

2.) She wanted a man with 14 qualities in her next life, whom she would marry. since it cannot happen, Shiva gave her the boon of 5 husbands in which the 14 qualities will be divided equally

3.) She asked for a man who is, the most handsome man in the world, the most righteous man, the best archer, is the most intelligent, is the mightiest man. Since a person alone cannot be all of the above, She was given the boon of 5 husbands in which each would possess one of the 5 qualities.
Edited by TheWatcher - 11 years ago

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