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Diala D

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Posted: 11 years ago

#151

Originally posted by: Vibhishna
I still haven't been able to understand why Kunti was stuck to Hastinapur.

Where were the Pandavas staying when they came back from exile and were waging the war? Dwarka?

They stayed in Upaplavya of Matsya..

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Pehchaan.Kaun

@Pehchaan.Kaun

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Posted: 11 years ago

#152

There are 3 stories in original MB which is present in Kashiram Dash MB as well ..

1. The story of asking for husband 5 times in a semi-unconscious mode is true.. And during giving that boon, Shiva also assured her that just by taking her name, girls will be sacred..

2. Another story is --> In the very next life of getting the above boon, she started doing tapasya seeing that her youth is almost getting over and she didnt get married.. Just that time, Lord Indra, Vaayu ( Wind ), Ashwini and Dharma came infronta her to grant her one husband amongst themselves.. But she got confused seeing all of them at once and couldn't decide whom to ask for as all were equally attractive to her.. Hence they read through her face and told her to leave her body just then, and that in the very next life, she will having ALL of them as their husbands.. Thus, how Draupadi ended up having 5 husbands in Dwapar Yug..

3. Once while coming back from Yama's yogya, all Dharma, Ashwini and Vayu were asked by Indra to bring a lotus from a pond thinking the aroma in the air is coming from a lotus.. But it was Daksha's daughter who was a tapaswini in the pond.. All Dharma, Vaayu and Ashwinis got attracted to her.. And when Indra came searching for them, he too got attracted to her and proposed to marry her.. Ketaki ( Daksha's daughter ) revealed to Indra that she is tapaswini and that she knows where the other 4 are as all of them behaved the same way too.. Lord Shiva ordered Indra to hold the Mountain up and Indra saw Vaayu Dharma and Ashwini's are locked up in jails.. After pleasing Lord Shiva Indra got them freed.. But after hearing Ketaki's story, Lord Narayan punished them saying all these 5 people will have to go through the punishment of taking birth of Mankind.. And that Ketaki will be divided to all of them as one wife to 5 husbands.. Also, he assured that he too will be taking birth with them to help them in everything.. 😊

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These are the only original stories mentioned in Kashiram Dash's MB which is said to be 99.99% close to original Ved Vyas's MB .. Rest all theories are false.. 😊

Edited by PRB_Shonit - 11 years ago

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TheWatcher

@TheWatcher

Voyager

Posted: 11 years ago

#153

Sorry but no, Kashiram das's MB is not considered to be 99.99% close to Ved vyasa, since no-one has ever seen Ved Vyas MB because it is 5000 years old, one cannot say that one translation is almost original.

Kashiram das translated the Mahabharata from a already translated version of it and nobody can imagine how many times the version he used has been translated.

He died after completing Vana parva, his son-in-law, nephew and other relatives completed the remaining translation.

This forum majorly accepts Kisari Mohan Ganguli's translation since it is easily available online. KMG is one the best translations of Mahabharata. There are other translations as accurate as KMG or even better like the Geeta press's translation.

If I am wrong, please correct me.

Edited by TheWatcher - 11 years ago

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Pehchaan.Kaun

@Pehchaan.Kaun

Sparkler

Posted: 11 years ago

#154

Originally posted by: TheWatcher
Sorry but no, Kashiram das's MB is not considered to be 99.99% close to Ved vyasa, since no-one has ever seen Ved Vyas MB because it is 5000 years old, one cannot say that one translation is almost original.

Kashiram das translated the Mahabharata from a already translated version of it and nobody can imagine how many times the version he used has been translated.

He died after completing Vana parva, his son-in-law, nephew and other relatives completed the remaining translation.

This forum majorly accepts Kisari Mohan Ganguli's translation since it is easily available online. KMG is one the best translations of Mahabharata.

If I am wrong, please correct me.

Ok.. Lets agree to disagree 😃 Thanks I will now go through the KMG MB too.. 😊

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Srishti

@srishtisingh

Voyager

Posted: 11 years ago

#155

can anybody provide me the citation abt the part of mb war in which arjun used celestial weapon on kurava army (not in one to one battle) for mass destruction (if there is)?

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Vrish

@Vr15h

Stunner

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Posted: 11 years ago

#156

Originally posted by: Vibhishna
Vrish,

I am not sure if Anga/Champa/Malini was close enough to Hastinapur that Karna was able to visit often.

Maybe the kingdoms were really small and didn't require much work from Karna.

Or, Karna could have retained the title and left the kingdoms under Duryodhan's reign - which I think is highly unlikely...

I still haven't been able to understand why Kunti was stuck to Hastinapur.
Where were the Pandavas staying when they came back from exile and were waging the war? Dwarka?

Anga was today's North Bengal. Champa was a town today in Bihar, near the Bengal border, so contiguous w/ Anga. Malini I dunno. But Anga was a large territory - starting from Dinajpur in Bengal and going north right up to Darjeeling. Magadha was the kingdom on its West.

Karna was very much in Anga when the Pandavas did their Rajasuya yagna: in fact, Bhima invaded his kingdom & subdued him.

But while I understand that in year 12, after the humiliation by the Gandharvas, Karna went on a series of conquests and undid a lot of the Pandava gains. But the bulk of the remaining 11 years, was he always @ Hastinapur? Or was he only there on the occasions that Duryodhan was plotting things against the Pandavas?

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Vrish

@Vr15h

Stunner

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Posted: 11 years ago

#157

Originally posted by: srishtisingh
can anybody provide me the citation abt the part of mb war in which arjun used celestial weapon on kurava army (not in one to one battle) for mass destruction (if there is)?

He used it on day 11 or 12 against the Shamshaptakas, and wiped out a whole bunch of them. I suspect he also used it against Krishna's Narayanis - or else, how could he have wiped them out?

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Surya Sundarraj Sriram

@Surya_krsnbhakt

Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

#158

I don't think Arjuna did any mass destruction.. that was done only by Bhishma and Drona..

I have a doubt. IN Indralokagamana Parva, Arjuna lives in heaven "for full five years".

How is this possible? One day in heaven is one year on earth.

So one year in heaven = 365 years on earth. Therefore 5 years will be 1825 years on earth.

Which is NOT possible.

Also, it is not practical for Arjuna to have lived there for five days. Because he sported with the Gandharvas and learnt celestial music and dance, and defeated the Nivatakavachas and Kalakeyas...

Edited by Surya_krsnbhakt - 11 years ago