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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Abhishek_King

I too have a doubt,was taking of Karna's armor really cheating???😕😕

i wont call it as cheating.. but reason wud be because Karna already knew the purpose of it... He was warned of it beforehand...
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Posted: 11 years ago
Were both Sudeshna & Subhadra still alive during mahaprasthanika / swargarohanika? Does Vyasa mention anything about this?
Were both of them still surviving when Kaliyuga set in?
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Posted: 11 years ago
@vrish bhrata and riti di thanks for replying... 😊

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Posted: 11 years ago
Sudeshna is not known, but Subhadra very much was. In fact, Yudisthir made her the regent and put her in charge of the kingdoms, and entrusted both Parikshit & Vajra to her. It's mentioned in the mahaprasthanika parva (not Swargarohan: Pandavas die in mahaprasthanika parva only, while Swargarohan is just about Yudisthir's dealings up there)
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Abhishek_King

@vrish bhrata and riti di thanks for replying... 😊

u r welcome😊
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Abhishek_King

Matsya war is the war going to happen with Vrihanala na...really,didn't he have them???😲😲

Nope.. it is clearly mentioned..
Vaisampayana said, "As thou askest me, O tiger among kings, I will relate that history unto thee! Do thou listen to my words, O best of the Bharatas! After twelve years (of their exile) had passed away and the thirteenth year had set in, Sakra, ever friendly to the sons of Pandu, resolved to beg of Karna (his ear-rings). And, O mighty monarch, ascertaining this intention of the great chief of the celestials about (Karna's) ear-rings, Surya, having effulgence for his wealth, went unto Karna."
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Abhishek_King

Who was Sudeshna??

And was Arjuna really more powerful than Karna as he was defeated many times - at Matsya war,at Drau's swayamvar,etc. when Karna did have his armor????



Karna retretated because Arjuna flaunted the Brahma weapon which Karna did not wanted to use against a Brahmin, That will in no way considered a loss, Karna matched Arjuna shot to shot in Draupadi's swayamvar before retreating due to the Brahmashira weapon.

A warrior never always wins, does he?, Arjuna was not able to protect the Yadava women, he was killed by Babruvahana, Krishna wasn't on his side then, was he?, Karna fought alone and matched or even surpassed Arjuna at times.

Edited by TheWatcher - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

Pritha was Kunti's name before she was adopted out to Kuntibhoja. Pritha was the name of the daughter of Surasena, the father of Vasudeva, Shrutashrava (Sishupala's mom) and 4 other queens who were the mothers of Sishupala, Dantavatra, Vinda/Anuvinda and Bhadra)
She was renamed Kunti by Kuntibhoj, when he got her from Surasena.

As a result, only Arjun was known as Partha - it couldn't apply to any of her own sons except her youngest.

'Son of Pritha' has been used for Yudishtra and Bhima too in many instances.. so I cross checked few KMG's mentions of 'Son of Pritha' with the sanskrit notes of sacred texts.. It was Partha/Parthe.. Yudi and Bhim are Parthas too..
May be Arjuna got popular as Partha as Krishna was Parthasarathy.. not that it applies only to the youngest..
Edited by ...Diala... - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
I do admit that all other sons of Pritha are also parthas but I think Arjun is given a special mention because he is said to be the delighter of Pritha.At the time of Arjun's birth in tapovan kunti was worried about the future of her sons,that is when the celestials told her that this son of yours will vanquish all your worries.Then kunti was sort of releived.The birth of paarth is most celebrated after kanhas birth there were demigods yakshas gandharwas they turned up to shower the baby with blessings.That is when kunti was assured that he has a bright future and will be best among men.So kunti was delighted.So I think he is called parth often...also the parthsarathy as you mentioned ...I think he was called by different names according to situation like in rajasuya arambha parv he is called dhananjay and in Virat parv he is called Vibhatsu...according to this logic I think being delighter of pritha he is called paarth...I am not sure though
Edited by frappie - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: frappie

I do admit that all other sons of Pritha are also parthas but I think Arjun is given a special mention because he is said to be the delighter of Pritha.At the time of Arjun's birth in tapovan kunti was worried about the future of her sons,that is when the celestials told her that this son of yours will vanquish all your worries.Then kunti was sort of releived.The birth of paarth is most celebrated after kanhas birth there were demigods yakshas gandharwas they turned up to shower the baby with blessings.That is when kunti was assured that he has a bright future and will be best among men.So kunti was delighted.So I think he is called parth often...also the parthsarathy as you mentioned ...I think he was called by different names according to situation like in rajasuya arambha parv he is called dhananjay and in Virat parv he is called Vibhatsu...according to this logic I think being delighter of pritha he is called paarth...I am not sure though



@Red : Any citations for this?
Edited by TheWatcher - 11 years ago

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