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Surya Sundarraj Sriram

@Surya_krsnbhakt

Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

#141

Originally posted by: ...Diala...
Surya.. we cant be sure if Bhim can boss over Duryodhan being his elder bro.. Duryodhan is elder than Bhim by one day per per other books.. Same day per KMG translation.. younger than Bhim only in starbharat as far as I know..

Whatever, one day older, same age.. I think same day qualifies for beating him up?

OK if not Dury then definitely Dushy at least, for dragging Drau to court...

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Diala D

@...Diala...

Sparkler

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Posted: 11 years ago

#142

Originally posted by: india2050
So after all this what blame is attached to Shakuni? As requested he rolled the dice (again no evidence that it was loaded) and proposed Draupadi as a stake. Apart from that he seems to have been the quietest compared to Dury, Dushi and Karna

obviously lesser than DDK

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Surya Sundarraj Sriram

@Surya_krsnbhakt

Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

#143

Originally posted by: Rehanism
I am wondering what will be Kunti's reaction on Karna's role in Vastraharan? Since they interact so much, will she slap him in filmy style or lecture him about his 'maa ke sanskaar'? Worse, in this serial women are present in the court albeit from a top gallery. So will Kunti witness everything?

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I can imagine the scene. Karna suggesting Drau's vastraharan and Kunti screaming "Angraaj Karn!" and rushing to him, and in slow motion giving him a slap! Slowly zoom to Karna's face and then Kunti's, show the slap back to back 10 times, then show Shakuni's shocked face, and Sury's face contorting with anger, move the camera round and round, show Dhriti looking confused, BHishma looking at the floor, Vidura crying..

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Rehanism

@Rehanism

Dazzler

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Posted: 11 years ago

#144

Originally posted by: -Shruti
Perhaps a moral obligation won't fit in the case of Kauravas but it can't be denied completely. Draupadi was their sister-in-law, and Indian culture treats them equivalent to a mother.
Yes the pandavas were responsible too, there's no doubt about it. But the blame can't be shifted on Yudhisthira alone, all five were equally responsible. Bhima's share is debatable though!

But when the incident occurred Draupadi was their slave and not sister-in-law and in ancient empires slaves were not considered full humans with any right over their own life and liberty. So legal technicalities favour the Kauravas. That's the reason elders of the house found no good reason to argue against Karna's justifications.

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Srishti

@srishtisingh

Voyager

Posted: 11 years ago

#145

yep that's technically right but before being a slave she was their sister in law.the reason for morality is never technical rather its human emotions directed in good sense

Edited by srishtisingh - 11 years ago

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Justitia

@Justitia

Rocker

Posted: 11 years ago

#146

Was Draupadi physically and verbally abused because she was a "woman"? Or was it because she put up a fight and dared to ask questions?

Yes, the Pandavas became Duri's slaves, but I don't recall them getting physically and verbally abused by the Kauravas in the dice hall...

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Srishti

@srishtisingh

Voyager

Posted: 11 years ago

#147

Originally posted by: shani88
Was Draupadi physically and verbally abused because she was a "woman"? Or was it because she put up a fight and dared to ask questions?
Yes, the Pandavas became Duri's slaves, but I don't recall them getting physically and verbally abused by the Kauravas in the dice hall...

I think their so called "higher male" ego was hurt when drau questioned them.they did not think a woman would question their authority and try to tell "them" what was right or wrong

Edited by srishtisingh - 11 years ago

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Diala D

@...Diala...

Sparkler

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Posted: 11 years ago

#148

Yeah she was abused as she argued that she was not a slave

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halfbloodprince

@Wistfulness

Achiever

+ 8

Posted: 11 years ago

#149

Originally posted by: india2050
So after all this what blame is attached to Shakuni? As requested he rolled the dice (again no evidence that it was loaded) and proposed Draupadi as a stake. Apart from that he seems to have been the quietest compared to Dury, Dushi and Karna

There's a big misconception about Duryodhan being manipulated and used by Shakuni, the reality is just the opposite!

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Vrish

@Vr15h

Stunner

+ 6

Posted: 11 years ago

#150

Originally posted by: Surya_krsnbhakt
Good sadism.
BUt going by your logic, Yudi is elder. So Bhima had no business coming in b/w him and the Kauravas... he only had rights to burn Duryodhana's hands...and the other Kauravas... not even Karna!

Originally posted by: ...Diala...
Bhim questioned Yudi after Draupadi was brought into the court.. not when she was staked.. so that goes against him.. Surya.. we cant be sure if Bhim can boss over Duryodhan being his elder bro.. Duryodhan is elder than Bhim by one day per per other books.. Same day per KMG translation.. younger than Bhim only in starbharat as far as I know..

I think ⭐️bharat is right on this one - Bhima was older or at least equal to Duryodhan, so had Yudisthir been killed, it would have been an open contest b/w the 2. So Bhima did have the right to boss over Duryodhan, or come in b/w him & Yudisthir. But I think he only wanted to burn Yudisthir's hands - he had other ideas for Duryodhan or Dushashan.

Karna wasn't known to be related to them, so anybody, even Nakul could legally punish him. Now, if one is talking physically, then it's again just Bhima. Arjun couldn't have defeated Karna in wrestling.

Speaking of Rehan's surmise, I do think it'll be interesting to see Kunti's reaction. In BRC, Kunti was ashamed of Yudisthir staking Draupadi, but that's not there in KMG. So ⭐️bharat wouldn't be very wrong if they showed Kunti gloss over Yudisthir's judgement, and only go after Karna.

But as this serial progresses, I find it harder to imagine how Kunti will break to Karna the news of who he was. In the original, Karna was just angry at her abandoning him. In this one, Karna has more reasons to be pissed - she's in contact w/ him almost all the time, and yet, never thought it worth revealing to him his secret until it looks like he's a real threat to Arjun's life.

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