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TheWatcher

@TheWatcher

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Posted: 11 years ago

#451

I am repeating this question because i want a more clearer answer thanks to Rasfyan I understood little bit of it

In the battle between bhishma and parshurama I read somwhere that some god told parshurama that bhishma is invincible and cannot be defeated if that is the case if we remove bhishma's icha mrityu vardaan even then parshurama will not be able to defeat bhishma? that means even god cannot defeat bhishma?

Arent all the avatar of vishnu are equal like parshurama and krishna are equal or krishna is a higher entity?

The main reason behind my confusion is that HOW can bhishma defeat an incarnation of god?

we are just counting skills in the battle for his icha mrityu vardaan

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Justlikethat1

@Justlikethat1

Sparkler

+ 2

Posted: 11 years ago

#452

Originally posted by: TheWatcher
I am repeating this question because i want a more clearer answer thanks to Rasfyan I understood little bit of it

In the battle between bhishma and parshurama I read somwhere that some god told parshurama that bhishma is invincible and cannot be defeated if that is the case if we remove bhishma's icha mrityu vardaan even then parshurama will not be able to defeat bhishma? that means even god cannot defeat bhishma?

Arent all the avatar of vishnu are equal like parshurama and krishna are equal or krishna is a higher entity?

The main reason behind my confusion is that HOW can bhishma defeat an incarnation of god?

we are just counting skills in the battle for his icha mrityu vardaan

Parashurama's avatar as the embodiment of Lord Narayana ended when he had killed 21 generations of Kshatriyas. This was the need for the avatar basically as during his time the Kshatriyas were being cruel and destructive of the other clans, especially the sages.

Parashurama hence was born as a warrior to sage Jamadagni and fulfilled the destiny of his avatar by annihilating 21 generations of Kshariyas.

At the end of this, Parashuram goes back to being the sage and guru. Hence when fighting Bheeshm, Parashuram was the teacher and the warrior. He was not fighting as the abode of Lord Vishnu.

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TheWatcher

@TheWatcher

Voyager

Posted: 11 years ago

#453

Thanks to the person above me

You really helped alot

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Justlikethat1

@Justlikethat1

Sparkler

+ 2

Posted: 11 years ago

#454

Originally posted by: TheWatcher
Thanks to the person above me

You really helped alot

You are most welcome😊

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TheWatcher

@TheWatcher

Voyager

Posted: 11 years ago

#455

One more question

I've heard many people say that KARNA was the one who made duryodhana insult draupadi, is that true? isn't Karna was supposed to be nice?

And when the cheerharad was happening bheeshm stood watch?

Edited by TheWatcher - 11 years ago

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iamseiko

@iamseiko

Beginner

Posted: 11 years ago

#456

I read somewhere that Bhishma's unwillingness to act at that time was the cause of his suffering during the war. He asked Krishna on his deathbed why he had to suffer through the death of his family and continue to watch, and That is what Krishna told him.

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Justlikethat1

@Justlikethat1

Sparkler

+ 2

Posted: 11 years ago

#457

Originally posted by: TheWatcher
One more question

I've heard many people say that KARNA was the one who made duryodhana insult draupadi, is that true? isn't Karna was supposed to be nice?

And when the cheerharad was happening bheeshm stood watch?

Karna was definitely not a nice person. He had his good points.. He was generous but he was otherwise as bad as Duryodhana. And yes. Karna was also one of the instigators in Draupadi's vasthraharan

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Mahadevan Venkitaraman

@maha2us

Voyager

Posted: 11 years ago

#458

@TheWatcher: You ask how Bhishma could defeat an incarnation of God, Parashurama. There are many ways we can interpret that.

Bhishma never saw his Guru as a threat to him. We learn God defeated and killed many bad persons. But then what does an incarnation of God (say Rama or Krishna or Parashurama) actually does? Kill the ego within is what God's incarnation does as God is full of love. Through all the fight Bhishma had with Parashu, Bhishma fought because the Guru wanted him to fight and Bhishma had humility for the Guru throughout. All that Bhishma said was he would be steadfast in his oath whatever happened which itself Guru saw as a noble quality. If there is one way, we can win over God that is by humility which is equivalent to devotion or surrender. God sees each of us as capable as Himself as He created each of us that way and so in this case He never sees one bigger or one smaller . This fight is totally different from Ravana fighting Rama or Sisupala fighting Krishna. In those cases, God's incarnation gave the chance of peace which Ravana or Sisupala declined to accept because of their own pride, conceit and ego and so the fight happened in which God destroys the ego within. Interestingly even though it is said Parashu could not win against Bhishma, Bhishma had no inclination to show his superiority. .

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Manan

@Proud-India

Rocker

+ 5

Posted: 11 years ago

#459

Why Draupadi is also called Sairandhri,Krushna,Panchali,Yagnai & any other name??

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varaali

@varaali

Dazzler

+ 2

Posted: 11 years ago

#460

Originally posted by: Proud-India
Why Draupadi is also called Sairandhri,Krushna,Panchali,Yagnai & any other name??

Sairandhari- Sairandharis were a class of maids of high birth and good education. They would amuse the queen and other royal ladies by plaiting and decorating their hair and provide light conversation. Since Draupadi became a Sairandhari to queen Sudeshna during the Pandavas' icognito stay at Virata's palace, she got this name

Krishnaa- She was supposed to be dark complexioned.

Panchali- Princess of the Panchala Kingdom

Yagnaseni- Since she emerged out of a sacrificial fire (yagna).
Drupad's full name was Yagnasena Dhrupad- hence as his daughter she came to be called Yagnaseni

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