{| Doubts and Discussions about Mahabharata |} - Page 45

Created

Last reply

Replies

1.1k

Views

136.6k

Users

107

Likes

1.8k

Frequent Posters

TheWatcher thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Voyager Thumbnail Engager Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 11 years ago
These questions have been in my mind forever so here it goes..

Q.1) Who was more powerful between drona and bhishma?

Q.2) If bhishma was a Kshatriya and parshuram did teach him why did he cursed karna?

Q.3) When parshurama and bhishma fought as parshurama is an avatar of lord vishnu himself why didn't parshurama defeated bhishma in a second? ( not kill him because he had the boon defeating is a diff thing )

Q.4) Aren't all avatar of lord vishnu supposed to be equal if yes aren't krishna and parshuram are equal keeping this thing in mind why didnt parshuram defeated bhishma in a matter of a second.

Q.5) Isn't it true that bhishma said to karna when he was dying that he ( karna ) was the greatest archer and warrior in the world and only Krishna himself can defeat him.

Q.6) I know this one is repetitive . Who was more powerful bhishma or parshurama?
rasyafan thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail
Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: TheWatcher

These questions have been in my mind forever so here it goes..

Q.1) Who was more powerful between drona and bhishma?

Q.2) If bhishma was a Kshatriya and parshuram did teach him why did he cursed karna?

Q.3) When parshurama and bhishma fought as parshurama is an avatar of lord vishnu himself why didn't parshurama defeated bhishma in a second? ( not kill him because he had the boon defeating is a diff thing )

Q.4) Aren't all avatar of lord vishnu supposed to be equal if yes aren't krishna and parshuram are equal keeping this thing in mind why didnt parshuram defeated bhishma in a matter of a second.

Q.5) Isn't it true that bhishma said to karna when he was dying that he ( karna ) was the greatest archer and warrior in the world and only Krishna himself can defeat him.

Q.6) I know this one is repetitive . Who was more powerful bhishma or parshurama?



1) They both were equal just like Vishnu and Shiv.

2) Just the night before Karn Died, Parshuram came in Karn's dream and told him about his curse's and said that he was supposed to die like this that is why he cursed him so that his kawatch could desert him when he most needed it otherwise Arjun would have died. KArn was on adharm's side whereas Arjun was on dharm's side and always dharm has to win.

3) Parshuram could not defeat bheeshm as Bheeshm had the boon of being undefeated therefore, all the gods and goddesses had intervened and made them stop the battle. Amba commited suicide when Parshuram could not help her and reincarnated as Shikhandi in her next life to take revenge from Bheeshm and she became the reason for his death, his defeat.

4) Yes True Krishn vishnu himself could only defeat Karn and not Arjun. Karn died becasue of the curse not becasue Arjun defeated him. Arjun could not have been able to defeat Bheeshm either if he had not used Shikhandi as a shield. He attacked Bheeshm because Shikhandi AKA Ammba a woman was standing in front of Arjun. And Bheeshm could not attack a woman.

5) Parshuram was Reincarnation of Shri Vishnuji definitely he was powerful and he was also guru of Bheeshm. But Bheeshm had the boon that no one can defeat him.

I hope ^^^^^^ answers your questions.
Edited by rasyafan - 11 years ago
TheWatcher thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Voyager Thumbnail Engager Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: rasyafan



1) They both were equal just like Vishnu and Shiv.

2) Just the night before Karn Died, Parshuram came in Karn's dream and told him about his curse's and said that he was supposed to die like this that is why he cursed him so that his kawatch could desert him when he most needed it otherwise Arjun would have died. KArn was on adharm's side whereas Arjun was on dharm's side and always dharm has to win.

3) Parshuram could not defeat bheeshm as Bheeshm had the boon of being undefeated therefore, all the gods and goddesses had intervened and made them stop the battle. Amba commited suicide when Parshuram could not help her and reincarnated as Shikhandi in her next life to take revenge from Bheeshm and she became the reason for his death, his defeat.

4) Yes True Krishn vishnu himself could only defeat Karn and not Arjun. Karn died becasue of the curse not becasue Arjun defeated him. Arjun could not have been able to defeat Bheeshm either if he had not used Shikhandi as a shield. He attacked Bheeshm because Shikhandi AKA Ammba a woman was standing in front of Arjun. And Bheeshm could not attack a woman.

5) Parshuram was Reincarnation of Shri Vishnuji definitely he was powerful and he was also guru of Bheeshm. But Bheeshm had the boon that no one can defeat him.

I hope ^^^^^^ answers your questions.



Thanks for the answers, but i still have one or two doubts as far as i have heard bheeshm had the boon of icha mrityu not of being un-defeated correct me if am wrong

thanks anyway
rasyafan thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail
Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: TheWatcher



Thanks for the answers, but i still have one or two doubts as far as i have heard bheeshm had the boon of icha mrityu not of being un-defeated correct me if am wrong

thanks anyway



Yes boon of Swechcha Mritu or Ichcha Mritu or the power to decide the time of his own death and if he cannot die then no one can defeat him he was so powerful and talented. That is what i meant sorry for the confusion.
TheWatcher thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Voyager Thumbnail Engager Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: rasyafan



Yes boon of Swechcha Mritu or Ichcha Mritu or the power to decide the time of his own death and if he cannot die then no one can defeat him he was so powerful and talented. That is what i meant sorry for the confusion.



Thank you for the answers
Proud-India thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 5
Posted: 11 years ago



Here her pic

https://i.imgur.com/aHsrM4q.jpg
mnx12 thumbnail
Posted: 11 years ago
Note:
Do not quote more the 1 post. Use
@member's id, to give reply.

Mahabharat DT

iamseiko thumbnail
Posted: 11 years ago
Ok. In tonight's episode, The Nag Raj mentioned that Bheem was a descendent of King Shuvasu, who had married a Serpent Queen. Is anyone familiar with the story behind this? I tried to search the validity of this, but I was unable to find anything online.
maha2us thumbnail
17th Anniversary Thumbnail Voyager Thumbnail
Posted: 11 years ago
Why Parashurama did not curse Bhishma but cursed Karna? There are a few reasons. Bhishma became Parashurama's student because Parashu was influenced by Ganga, Bhishma's mom to take Bhishma as the student. Ganga was a well-known person and we can now see how much the influence of a great person helps anyone. On today, can you see the difference if your IAS officer mom takes you to a professor to influence him to make you his research assistant and a housewife mom takes you to the same professor to make you his RA? As far Karna, Parashurama would probably not cursed Karna if Karna told his truth when he became the sage's student. But Karna told lie that he is brahmin. Karna neither knew he was kshatriya but he was told by Drona that high level archery could be taught only to Kshatriya or brahmin but not to a sutaputra. But Karna was keenly interested to study and had fear of rejection also. and so he told lie. Probably if he had no fear and he told his truth, things would have been different.

Why Parashurama could not win against Bhishma in the war? It was not a fight to death. Parashu wanted only to force Bhishma to marry Amba for the sake of Amba. Bhishma could never be budged to do so. and Bhishma for ending the fight took a strong destructive weapon which when applied could cause a lot of havoc. And so Devas forced the compromise and said neither is defeated and that was how the battle ended. Bhishma had even told he was prepared to die in the hands of Parashu but would never have married Amba even if the Guru commanded him to do that. Thus the victory for Parashurama becomes impossible and Parashurama being Vishnu's incarnation would have love only and so would never kill Bhishma and thus it became a 'no-win' situation.

The questions you asked are good ones and makes someone to think. .
Edited by maha2us - 11 years ago
varaali thumbnail
19th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: iamseiko

Ok. In tonight's episode, The Nag Raj mentioned that Bheem was a descendent of King Shuvasu, who had married a Serpent Queen. Is anyone familiar with the story behind this? I tried to search the validity of this, but I was unable to find anything online.


Kunti's biological father was Shoorasen who had married Marishaa, a Naga princess who was the daughter of Aryaka- the Naga chief.

Thus Bhima- indeed all the Pandavas- and Krishna / Balarama were the great-grandsons of Aryaka. This in mentioned in Hari Vamsa- and I think in MB too.

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".