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Srishti

@srishtisingh

Voyager

Posted: 11 years ago

#1131

btw is yuganta a good read?it deals with krishna life or kurukshetra part?

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Ashwini_D

@Ashwini_D

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Posted: 11 years ago

#1132

Originally posted by: srishtisingh
btw is yuganta a good read?it deals with krishna life or kurukshetra part?

It is a series of essays on various characters. Their actions, in her essays, have been infused with human motives, and not been put on a divine pedestal. She also draws on her knowledge of that time to explain events and the prevailing social structure.

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INSTIGATOR

@INSTIGATOR

Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

#1133

What's ati maharathi? Who are the warriors under this category in MB?

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halfbloodprince

@Wistfulness

Achiever

+ 8

Posted: 11 years ago

#1134

Originally posted by: Daya_Manic
What's ati maharathi? Who are the warriors under this category in MB?

This particular term is for the highest class of warriors. Bheeshma, Drona and Arjuna are ati-maharathis.

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INSTIGATOR

@INSTIGATOR

Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

#1135

Originally posted by: -Shruti
This particular term is for the highest class of warriors. Bheeshma, Drona and Arjuna are ati-maharathis.

Thanx :)

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Justitia

@Justitia

Rocker

Posted: 11 years ago

#1136

Yudhishthira spends a few moments in 'naraka' to "atone" for his "sinful acts" - as per KMG, said "sinful act" being the "untruth" which led to Drona's death -

[quote]"Then Shakra, the lord of the deities, endued with blazing prosperity, addressed Yudhishthira and comforting him, said, O Yudhishthira of mighty arms, come, come, O chief of men. These illusions have ended, O puissant one. Success has been attained by thee, O mighty-armed one, and eternal regions (of felicity) have become thine. Thou shouldst not yield to wrath. Listen to these words of mine. Hell, O son, should without doubt be beheld by every king. Of both good and bad there is abundance, O chief of men. He who enjoys first the fruits of his good acts must afterwards endure Hell. He, on the other hand, who first endures Hell, must afterwards enjoy Heaven. He whose sinful acts are many enjoys Heaven first. It is for this, O king, that desirous of doing thee good, I caused thee to be sent for having a view of Hell. Thou hadst, by a pretence, deceived Drona in the matter of his son. Thou hast, in consequence thereof, been shown Hell by an act of deception." [/quote]

http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m18/m18003.htm

I am NOT defending Yudi's actions in the dice game, what he did was "wrong" in every manner possible. But the fact that he spends time in "naraka" ACTUALLY for the circumstances related to Drona's death, makes me wonder if the Yaksha Prashna was THE redeeming moment for Yudi...

Dice game - Nakul gets staked first

Yaksha prashna - Nakul is chosen to be revived by Yudi amongst all bros

Dice game - Draupadi gets staked and lost by Yudi - and the aftermath is simply horrific and shameful

Yaksha prashna - Drau's 4 hubbies are dead, it is the jesht hubby Yudi who prevents her from being widowed completely thanks to his knowledge of dharma - he also gets her other 4 hubbies revived as well.

So, can it be "assumed" that the Yaksha prashna was an "atonement" (of sorts) for Yudhishthira after the dice game fiasco?

Edited by shani88 - 11 years ago

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Devashree

@devashree_h

Channel Moderator

+ 12

Posted: 11 years ago

#1137

Originally posted by: shani88
Yudhishthira spends a few moments in 'naraka' to "atone" for his "sinful acts" - as per KMG, said "sinful act" being the "untruth" which led to Drona's death -

[quote]"Then Shakra, the lord of the deities, endued with blazing prosperity, addressed Yudhishthira and comforting him, said, O Yudhishthira of mighty arms, come, come, O chief of men. These illusions have ended, O puissant one. Success has been attained by thee, O mighty-armed one, and eternal regions (of felicity) have become thine. Thou shouldst not yield to wrath. Listen to these words of mine. Hell, O son, should without doubt be beheld by every king. Of both good and bad there is abundance, O chief of men. He who enjoys first the fruits of his good acts must afterwards endure Hell. He, on the other hand, who first endures Hell, must afterwards enjoy Heaven. He whose sinful acts are many enjoys Heaven first. It is for this, O king, that desirous of doing thee good, I caused thee to be sent for having a view of Hell. Thou hadst, by a pretence, deceived Drona in the matter of his son. Thou hast, in consequence thereof, been shown Hell by an act of deception." [/quote]
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m18/m18003.htm

I am NOT defending Yudi's actions in the dice game, what he did was "wrong" in every manner possible. But the fact that he spends time in "naraka" ACTUALLY for the circumstances related to Drona's death, makes me wonder if the Yaksha Prashna was THE redeeming moment for Yudi...

Dice game - Nakul gets staked first
Yaksha prashna - Nakul is chosen to be revived by Yudi amongst all bros

Dice game - Draupadi gets staked and lost by Yudi - and the aftermath is simply horrific and shameful
Yaksha prashna - Drau's 4 hubbies are dead, it is the jesht hubby Yudi who prevents her from being widowed completely thanks to his knowledge of dharma - he also gets her other 4 hubbies revived as well.

So, can it be "assumed" that the Yaksha prashna was an "atonement" (of sorts) for Yudhishthira after the dice game fiasco?

Yaksha Prashna was his atomement for staking Nakul first in the dice game. But the whole 13 years exile is his atomement for the dice game. He spent it doing Tapasya, pilgrimage and feeling guilty.

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@DrModel

Rocker

+ 3

Posted: 11 years ago

#1138

I remember reading in a different version from KMG that the Avatar knew his time to be the slayer was gone. he must now be the king maker and guide others to set their own destiny.

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Rehanism

@Rehanism

Dazzler

+ 2

Posted: 11 years ago

#1139

I had asked this question 10 days back, but no one replied. So I ask again.😉

Originally posted by: Rehanism
Was the Pandava's exile really over before Virat war? If yes then why were they still living in disguise tolerating humiliations and why had not Arjun got rid of the curse which was meant to last 1 year? In Virat war he appeared as an eunuch, I suppose.

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Vrish

@Vr15h

Stunner

+ 6

Posted: 11 years ago

#1140

Originally posted by: Rehanism
Was the Pandava's exile really over before Virat war? If yes then why were they still living in disguise tolerating humiliations and why had not Arjun got rid of the curse which was meant to last 1 year? In Virat war he appeared as an eunuch, I suppose.

"Bhishma said, 'The wheel of time revolves with its divisions, viz., with Kalasand Kasthas and Muhurtas and days and fortnights and months and constellations and planets and seasons and years. In consequence of their fractional excesses and the deviations of also of the heavenly bodies, there is an increase of two months in every five years. It seems to me that calculating this wise, there would be an excess of five months and twelve nights in thirteen years. Everything, therefore, that the sons of Pandu had promised, hath been exactly fulfilled by them. Knowing this to be certain, Vibhatsu hath made his appearance.