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Posted: 12 years ago
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Oops I forgot to add to my post. I remember the real Sultan. The one who said that in his world neither do they put their hands on women, nor do they publicly humiliate them.

THAT was our Sultan, the Sultan we loved.
Edited by likarsh - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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edited my comment on pg2 :)
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anu-Reddy


</div><div>Do u support RK? If so can u state what are the reasons u support him even after he mistreating his own Mom? Iam sure ur answer would include "u know he got betrayed when he was kid, his mom married to someone else soon after his dad's death and so he felt rejected" ...isnt it? or u have some other reason? If this is what ur reason is, well and good, not an issue with me. Just like many here love RK inspite of what all he did to his own Mom, owing to his bad past... we will also support Sultan if he has valid reason. Thats exactly the topic maker is trying to say.

And dont even get started on double faces,we very well know how double faced this whole forum is. Atleast we have the audacity to accept Sultan is currently wrong awnd we wont be supporting him if he has no valid reason. Unlike many here , who no matter what the superstar does, say he cannot be wrong.



My support or not support does not come into picture in this discussions . The woman abuse posts were made by many of you during rk times , so same should apply here . Chanting abuse mantra at one time and changing it to suit your fav is what is disgusting . Many of you who were shouting abuse abuse then are now actually enjoying the acts which is very evident by the support you guys give to such posts now

I don't watch sultan scenes ... So you wont find my posts shouting abuse on him

Justifying your stance because of what rk did Or what rk fans did does not work .you guys were very vocal about abuse , so why muted voices now .

Anyway I made my point , nothing more for me to add other than what I said in thre of my posts here . So enjoy discussing how justified you are for supporting sultans actions now
Edited by armummy - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: likarsh

Oops I forgot to add to my post. I remember the real Sultan. The one who said that in his word neither do they put their hands on women, nor do they publicly humiliate them.


THAT was our Sultan, the Sultan we loved.



I miss him. I miss the real Sultan 😭

CVs 😡
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: fia21



That said, yes there is still a part of me that thinks, or maybe hopes, that whatever Sultan is doing right now has some whole other story to it. I could be wrong, and I am prepared for that, but I for one am having a hard time believing that someone like Sultan, who put his family and respect for women above everything else, could change so drastically in just one night. A journey that started off about getting justice for his Mother suddenly turned into getting Madhu, it's really weird. Maybe there is more to the story, maybe their isn't. But whatever it is, Sultan can never stoop to the level that RK did. Many may disapprove of this, but it's their choice and their perspective, which I won't question. But yes Sultan chasing a married woman like this is definitely wrong. If she doesn't want to be with him, he should just let it go. But then again, if he really wanted to be with her, he had so many opportunities even before Madhu got married to RK. But he was the one who always tried to convince Madhu to do the right thing, and also tried to explain to her that she should give up her revenge plan against RK. I refuse to believe that NOW of all times, he suddenly realizes he wants her in his life.


Great reply, Fia. I want to address @bold and another part of your post which I'll get to in another reply.

To me it's not that he's doing this to a married woman. Were she not married, only single, and not linked to any other man, it still would be wrong. Marriage, that doesn't make her any less of an independent woman, or rather it shouldn't. Married or not, that's the least of my concerns. The question is whether the woman is receptive or repulsed, whether she welcomes or rejects. If Madhu were single, even then this 'junoon' of Sultan would not be acceptable.
Edited by likarsh - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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That said, yes there is still a part of me that thinks, or maybe hopes, that whatever Sultan is doing right now has some whole other story to it. I could be wrong, and I am prepared for that, but I for one am having a hard time believing that someone like Sultan, who put his family and respect for women above everything else, could change so drastically in just one night. A journey that started off about getting justice for his Mother suddenly turned into getting Madhu, it's really weird.


@red i know right! its not even possible to change so drastically in such a short amount of time. there was no signs indicating that sultan was becoming more antagonistic, this shocked everyone. thats why i cant digest it and still have hope that hes only frontin' (putting up a facade) coz it just doesnt make any sense at all


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: likarsh


Great reply, Fia. I want to address @bold and another part of your post which I'll get to in another reply.

To me it's not that he's doing this to a married woman. Were she not married, only single, and not linked to any other man, it still would be wrong. Marriage, that doesn't make her any less of an independent woman, or rather it shouldn't. Married or not, that's the least of my concerns. The question is whether the woman is receptive or repulsed, whether she welcomes or rejects. If Madhu were single, even then this 'junoon' of Sultan would not be acceptable.



That is exactly what most of my comment meant. I guess I should have worded it correctly 😆 . But anyway, you're absolutely right, married or not, no woman should be treated this way. And that too in the name of "Junoon" . I don't understand what sort of misogynists the CVs of this show are. What kind of pleasure do they get in making a woman a doormat of her husband and a ping pong ball between two brothers? And since when is obsession healthy in any relationship? I didn't like RK's obsession, and I am not liking Sultan's obsession. Whether there's more to it or not is a completely different story. But for now, I will only believe on what is being shown instead of preconceiving the future. Right now Sultan is wrong. Period. Even though Madhu has turned out to be a complete hypocrite, it still wouldn't justify Sultan's actions presently.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: TheDon.


@red i know right! its not even possible to change so drastically in such a short amount of time. there was no signs indicating that sultan was becoming more antagonistic, this shocked everyone. thats why i cant digest it and still have hope that hes only frontin' (putting up a facade) coz it just doesnt make any sense at all




That's the part where I blame the CVs. Eventually, they butcher each and every character. Be it RK, Madhu, Padmini, Radha or Sultan now. They seriously need better writers on their team!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Great post Liks👏

All of us Sultan or Sulbala fans loved that golden hearted Sultan and we all still believe that he is just acting right now.

Actually we all are appreciating Avineshes acting in his negative roll not Negative Sultan, so when sultan fan makes a post it is about Avinesh. Though some of us like his plans to get back to RK but we too do not like him using Madhu for the plan.

In fact people in this forum wanted Sultan to be negative and CVs gave them what they want, so other fan group should be happy and we sultanian should be sad but I don' t see that in the forum, people are still unhappy, so what CVs should do now.😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: fia21



I had always wanted to see Madhu as a strong and independent woman. That was what had initially got me hooked to the show. But alas, I asked for too much. This show turned out to be everything about an arrogant Superstar. And that image of a strong woman got overshadowed by his antics gradually. Even with the revenge plan she made, I was really happy to see some shades of grey in her as that was something never seen before on Indian television. But again, I hoped for too much. Madhu as a character has turned out to be very disappointing. Either she doesn't speak up for herself, or she doesn't do it at the right time. Which is no less than not speaking at all. The idea of being in love has completely turned off her brain switch.


Fia, I always respected the creatives for the unwedding. I initially had interest in the show, but it was clear to me that RK-Madhu 'love story' would be focused on. Which is okay, but RK was shown from the beginning to be a jackass to Madhu. Then came the four phera shaadi. No, it's not just that it was a four phera shaadi, but everything that led to it, how he treated her then and afterwards. Knowing the history of Hindi serials, I didn't have any hope and chalked it up to yet another abusive love story glorified as TRUE, EPIC LOVE.

But then something happened. The creatives actually had the guts to do the unwedding. People had speculated it may be revenge, but many didn't really believe the CVs would go through with it. Sure enough, they had the guts to go through with it.

Then later came Sultan's entry and that's when I started watching regularly. I've watched the show as a whole and enjoyed it as a whole. Yes, including RK's scenes, because what I saw was that he was portrayed as he was.

I even defend the CVs for Madhu's failing on her revenge. Back when she decided to embark on it, I said it then that she would fail and would fall victim to the him again. Because it was always stupid to do so. I was also supportive of the RK-Madhu marriage, too. Because the folly of such a decision needed to be shown. I feel that the way their unhealthy, abusive relationship has been shown, it's only natural that this cycle would continue. However, my hope was that with this marriage, Madhu would finally get her ever-needed and complete REALITY CHECK with regards to RK.

People say Sultan's giving her that reality check by showing her the mirror. But that doesn't mean his methods of harassment and intimidation are correct or justified. That is not the way to go about it. Nor is it entertaining as a woman if Madhu is simply some object/means for him to achieve revenge on RK.

So, I will see what happens next week. I will see what reasons they give Sultan and why he's doing all of this. And if it's not satisfactory, then it's bye bye for me.
Edited by likarsh - 12 years ago

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