Points to be Noted: Few things from a Sultanian

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Sophronia

@Sophronia

Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

#31

Originally posted by: fia21

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">I miss him. I miss the real Sultan 😭</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">CVs 😡</font>

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reni

@leverne

Stunner

+ 5

Posted: 12 years ago

#32

Liks i love ur post...i stopped watching the show coz i cannot support the only character i watched the show for.

Sultan is treading on the same paths as RK...if I couldnt support RK that time...I wont support Sultan either...

I hope against hope that sultan is doing all this for some other reason...I cant see his character tainted.

Fingers crossed!

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sowmya

@Not_a_fan

Navigator

+ 5

Posted: 12 years ago

#33

Disclaimer: I have never posted in this forum, and honestly I don't even watch this show except certain episodes. Though I do keep tabs on whats happening by reading the WU's (Great job updaters! 👍🏼), I am not a fan of any of the characters or actors in the show. I follow the show simply coz I think the story is interesting, and the characters are complex multi dimensional ones instead of caricatures for the most part. So, I truly am a neutral viewer.

TM, of your two points on why you are enjoying this side of Sultan even though you don't support it: 1) is invalid coz there is nothing that shows right now that it is an act. It may or may not be shown in some future episode that this was all an act, but now it's not. And what a despicable act it is! (Before you say it, RK is no saint and has been equally despicable if not more. That however doesn't make Sultan's deeds justified in any sense of form) And 2) You may not believe there is anything holy or true about M-R love, and I don't really care about it anyways. The fact is though, the characters that are M-R believe their love for each other is true and that's what matters. And both MB and RK seem to actually like the weirdly abusive sort of relationship; maybe makes life exciting for them. I don't understand it, but whatever rocks their boat. Just coz I don't understand it, doesn't mean their love is false or doesn't exist or that are anything but true to each other.

RK and Sultan are really not very different at all. Only difference is RK started out as the completely negative guy with all sorts of complex issues underlying his negative character who then tried to come to terms with at least some of them with MB's help. It didn't make him a good person or saint, nor did it change his basic character but he has priorities now and some sense where earlier he didn't have either so no direction in life. Sultan's character started out as a gangster who did criminal work but still had some principles which he adhered to. Now, he's lost the only thing that made him a good gangster-his principles. He's simply a gangster now.

In my opinion, RK was slightly better than the present Sultan. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe RK ever invaded her personal space even when he kidnapped/blackmailed her and they slept on the same bed etc. He wanted her to love him, by hook or by crook but even in that he maintained a limit. Sultan doesn't seem to have one, and the physical manifestation of his "junoon" is sickening. RK was and is insecure in MB's love for him; Sultan is overconfident that forcing MB to leave RK will ensure his happy future with her. I don't know which is worse for MB honestly, but at least she loves RK and is willing to calm his insecurities, for now.

I do believe RK and MB have an unbalanced insecure relationship, and which may not last the test of time. I believe Sultan and his mom didn't get justice and that partly defines him as a person; so does RK's abandonment issues which is why he is possessive of MB. But forcing MB to leave RK is not going to make her forget him or get his mom justice. Instead, MB will only remember and believe the love she and RK have for each other is truly "anokha" and true and fight tooth and nail for it; even causing her to forget the supposed abuse she received(s) at his hand. And if this is an act for getting justice for mom, I have no idea how torturing MB or RK in jail is going to get him that. Anyways, I choose to go by what has been shown instead of speculating on what might be in the future and that is Sultan being a complete arse/evil guy who's lost it in his supposed "junoon" for MB.

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fia21

@fia21

Sparkler

+ 3

Posted: 12 years ago

#34

Originally posted by: TheDon.

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Are you trying to make me smile or make me cry? 😭😭😭

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KhatamKahani

@KhatamKahani

Stunner

Posted: 12 years ago

#35

@sowmya_jairam, you say there's nothing that shows right now that it's an act. I beg to differ. Except I am not going to list all that I've observed because well, who knows what that could set off.😆

And RK did invade her personal space. He constantly did it. Even when she told him to stay back. And what would you call him taking her from the studio to his house, and carrying her into his house and into his room?

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Disha

@FantasyFan_8

Stunner

+ 6

Posted: 12 years ago

#36

Originally posted by: -Stephanie-
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Sexual Harrasment??? WHEN?? WHERE??? LMAO! 🤣

of course he sexually harassed her by not giving into her when she wanted him to take her so badly. Can't you see how sexually harassing must that have been for Madhu 🤣

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KhatamKahani

@KhatamKahani

Stunner

Posted: 12 years ago

#37

Originally posted by: ..Bournville..

of course he sexually harassed her by not giving into her when she wanted him to take her so badly. Can't you see how sexually harassing must that have been for Madhu 🤣

Yeah, no. RK's stalking, his kidnapping her and taking her to his house, and many other actions of his, they all fall under sexual harassment. And I mean it falls under the actual meaning of sexual harassment, not your cutesy, made up meaning of the term.

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JAHHNAVI

@JAHHNAVI

Rocker

Posted: 12 years ago

#38

Originally posted by: armummy

My support or not support does not come into picture in this discussions . The woman abuse posts were made by many of you during rk times , so same should apply here . Chanting abuse mantra at one time and changing it to suit your fav is what is disgusting . Many of you who were shouting abuse abuse then are now actually enjoying the acts which is very evident by the support you guys give to such posts now

I don't watch sultan scenes ... So you wont find my posts shouting abuse on him

Justifying your stance because of what rk did Or what rk fans did does not work .you guys were very vocal about abuse , so why muted voices now .

Anyway I made my point , nothing more for me to add other than what I said in thre of my posts here . So enjoy discussing how justified you are for supporting sultans actions now

@BOLD BLACK: Yes... Lord, let there be light... And there was LIGHT!! Finally you KNOW we are so disgusting @ARmummy... 👏 You want ANY more explanations?? 🤢🤢

@RED: Muted? Is this muted enough for u? Are the TRPs muted enough for ALL of u so as NOT to disturb your ROMANTIC hallucinations!!

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Disha

@FantasyFan_8

Stunner

+ 6

Posted: 12 years ago

#39

Originally posted by: likarsh

Yeah, no. RK's stalking, his kidnapping her and taking her to his house, and many other actions of his, they all fall under sexual harassment. And I mean it falls under the actual meaning of sexual harassment, not your cutesy, made up meaning of the term.

at least get the legal terms right. kidnapping is an offense in itself, it is not to be clubbed with sexual harassment, unless the kindapper makes overtly physical advances on the person kidnapped. and RK never ever tried to get close to Madhu against her will. hell he did not get close to her, even when she wanted it, so please, dont abuse legal terms by naming an act of kidnapping as sexual harassment. i don't and would never support what RK did to Madhu in the past, but I would definitely not abuse sensitive words like sexual harassment in RK-Madhu context, because while RK emotionally blackmailed her, confined her, kidnapped her, but he never ever sexually harassed her. Sexual harassment is what Sultan is doing to madhu

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Sophronia

@Sophronia

Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

#40

Originally posted by: likarsh

Yeah, no. RK's stalking, his kidnapping her and taking her to his house, and many other actions of his, they all fall under sexual harassment. And I mean it falls under the actual meaning of sexual harassment, not your cutesy, made up meaning of the term.

http://www.un.org/womenwatch/osagi/pdf/whatissh.pdf

liks ur right

p.s from this pdf of 'what is sexual harassment' did u know that massages are also in this category...n dyu remember a certain someone forcing another certain someone to massage them? wow looks like someone has been sexually harassed from early days :O

*waiting for my time-bomb to set off once others read my post*😈