If WE LOVE DUTTA,what does that say about US?

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Posted: 14 years ago
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I love Dutta. I'm not sure what it says about me. That I appreciate the occasional bad-guy-on the outside, good-on the inside? That I like complicated people? That I find something in him that I empathize with or see in myself? I DO NOT KNOW.

Dutta is a mobster, a DON. Even though he is shown as a Robin Hood Don, whatever that means, at some point in his day-to-day business, some innocent people get hurt or cheated--a casualty of "Don-dom". Inevitable.

One of the things we romanticized about what how Naku loved Dutta no matter what he did as a profession or his past. Naku fell for Dutta the MINUTE he saved her from More. It wouldn't matter if he killed 100 innocent people or 10. He was a good guy to her. She was not even slightly appalled or disgusted to know his "career".

We have praised her behavior as non-judgmental, we have romanticized it! We have even said that she loves him for his his "true" self. I thought our actions, how we live, is at least A LITTLE BIT a reflection of what we are on the inside.

Perhaps with a guy like Dutta, you can't help but to fall in love with him, his honesty, his gentleness.

And we all HATE Supriya. I hated Supriya because of the GAMES she played--she was greedy and dishonest and STUPID. Three things I really, really hate in people.😆 Not because she thought Dutta was revolting because of what he did. We sometimes wrote as if Supriya was so closed-minded and blind not to love Dutta. But was she? Let me propose the following:

Dutta was the occasional terrorist, targeting the "bad" guy, "bad" being open to interpretation/subjective. He killed some people, some innocent. However, he is a darling on the inside...loving, giving, had a bad childhood, etc. If you were in Sups' place, would you want to marry him? Would you even give him a chance knowing what you knew? Seriously, it's tricky.
And we have Naku, who liked him irrespective of whether he killed 1000 people or 1. What is more believable? THAT he was a Don, that he hurt innocent people in his daily affairs did not matter to her at all, didn't occur to her...

And here's the real interesting part--WE PRAISE THAT! Me too! That she loves him for his "true" self. Does that not give you pause to think WHY she never cared about that? Why it didn't occur to her? The convenient explanation--her background. But I think not.

Could she very well have been the following:

A girl who many years of her life was covered with soot. Real father was gone. Step-father thought of her more as a burden than anything else. There was no strong male figure in her life. The males that were in her life always sought to sell her out, punish her, abuse her. She must have dreamt of the day, even though she kept herself from believing in it, that she would be loved by a guy who would love her and protect her and respect her. All the things she never had in her life. And in walks Dutta. Who is an honest, straight-forward man, saves her life. She is transfixed, idolizes him. She is curious about him, has a crush on him, wants to know more about him, wants to make him happy, help him. YET she never ever thinks about the fact that he kills people. She never pauses to think about that. I tend to think any normal person would pause, as Supriya did. What does this say about Naku? Is she desperate to fall in love? To make a man a hero in her hero-less life? To love somebody? To be respected back? (All of which are very human needs we all have). And more importantly, what Dutta is to her?

I've thought about this many a time, and you've seen it once in a rare while in one of my posts. But it is an interesting thing.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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parul.......i like ur post........it really makes sense......i love Dutta too......n hav my reason for this..........i'll post them later........aaram se...........yipee......1st one to reply.......

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Originally posted by: swati2008

parul.......i like ur post........it really makes sense......i love Dutta too......n hav my reason for this..........i'll post them later........aaram se...........yipee......1st one to reply.......


Thanks Swati. Looking forward to reading your thoughts, not ESP style like Dutta/Naku.😆😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Reserved.. :D Will edit later.. =)

Btw Great topic GP.. you really do create some awesome discussion topics.. 👍🏼
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Posted: 14 years ago
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parul what a wonderful post yar. very nice thought,
I also love datta but my view is completely different than your. i post it soon.

I always love super man (a man of steel) and now datta. To me datta is also fictional character, I know why I love super man he is superb that why. I like datta because of nakku, because of bajji, because of kala, because of AS, because of kishore, because of roopa, because of setji, because of babi, because of ganpat because of sudarsan, because of every one around him making him superb. To me datta is a man of lion.😉

Especially because of mishal and CV

i don't like datta as don. i always see the datta positive side, i like datta as good son to AS, as good brother to his sisters, as good person to the head of the house, as good hubby to nakku, as good friend to bajji. as good person to his sis husband. as a good person to his village people

my family is affected and suffered alot by don to. i dad lost so many cores and his business because of the don. but now he is dead. my dad yearn it back.

i know the story of the don. how he become don. he is higher cast and rich so his father is head of the town (because of his money). if he like one woman he will have her at any cost mostly from lower cast girls without money. so the lower cast people made a perfect plan to finish not only him but also his family. they killed every except the boy (who was out of town with his cousin) was escaped and become don. he took a revenge when he was 16 i thing kill every one who cause death to his family. money play police divert the case. he become don and kidnap and kill people for money. he did same thing to my dad. once he try to kill my dad. god was there for my dad.

the real life don are completely different from onscreen don (if he is hero of the story). don't compare with it. see datta as fictional character. don't dig deeper.




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Posted: 14 years ago
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very very nice post parul.


Dutta was the occasional terrorist, targeting the "bad" guy, "bad" being open to interpretation/subjective. He killed some people, some innocent. However, he is a darling on the inside...loving, giving, had a bad childhood, etc. If you were in Sups' place, would you want to marry him? Would you even give him a chance knowing what you knew? Seriously, it's tricky.
And we have Naku, who liked him irrespective of whether he killed 1000 people or 1. What is more believable? THAT he was a Don, that he hurt innocent people in his daily affairs did not matter to her at all, didn't occur to her...


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Good or Bad who will decide that. A veg. person thinks that non veg peoples are so bad they kill some innocent life but they also killing some life because plants have also life. if you think about any soldier of any army they also kill some innocent people. whatever reason for that. they also don't know the opposite side soldiers are innocent or not. again when a industrialist closed his work without any notice indirectly their employee & their family also died at that time may be that industrialist also helpless & employee also.

that's not means ke katal karo definitely not.

so don't think so much about dutta's profession, because this is a serial and take it as a serial don't mix with real life.

all life follow same statement of Charles Darwin " struggle for existence"

sirf existence ka definition alag hay.

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ritun

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: pbtghosh

very very nice post parul.



Dutta was the occasional terrorist, targeting the "bad" guy, "bad" being open to interpretation/subjective. He killed some people, some innocent. However, he is a darling on the inside...loving, giving, had a bad childhood, etc. If you were in Sups' place, would you want to marry him? Would you even give him a chance knowing what you knew? Seriously, it's tricky.
And we have Naku, who liked him irrespective of whether he killed 1000 people or 1. What is more believable? THAT he was a Don, that he hurt innocent people in his daily affairs did not matter to her at all, didn't occur to her...


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Good or Bad who will decide that. A veg. person thinks that non veg peoples are so bad they kill some innocent life but they also killing some life because plants have also life. if you think about any soldier of any army they also kill some innocent people. whatever reason for that. they also don't know the opposite side soldiers are innocent or not. again when a industrialist closed his work without any notice indirectly their employee & their family also died at that time may be that industrialist also helpless & employee also.

that's not means ke katal karo definitely not.

so don't think so much about dutta's profession, because this is a serial and take it as a serial don't mix with real life.

all life follow same statement of Charles Darwin " struggle for existence"

sirf existence ka definition alag hay.

--------
ritun


You are right about interpretation of right vs. wrong. I've had one too many discussions around this in my own life, as we all have! 😆And your examples are apt....totally spot on. But at some point, there has to be something that is ethically wrong--or that is so offensive. I have to give Dutta's profession consideration because HE IS IN IT right now. Everyday he wakes up and does it. And, it says a lot that he himself has so much guilt over it. That surely must indicate that something is wrong.

You are absolutely right about the Darwinian concept and that everyone has a different definition. But I have had, continue to have, and will always have an evolving definition for my own life--and that is to be happy, change and evolve and better myself, enjoy what God has sought fit to give me, BUT NEVER take away something from someone else in so doing. That was never my right. But you raise a good point, how do I know that my actions or lack thereof are NOT taking from someone else somewhere.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Nice post,Very well written and thought provoking. ps: Isn't ganpat nakku's real father?I am confused.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: ayesha09

Nice post,Very well written and thought provoking. ps: Isn't ganpat nakku's real father?I am confused.


It is Naku's good fortune that Ganpat is NOT her real father. Babi remarried after her husband left, and had Sethji with Ganpat-- Oh, just that very thought is just too repulsive.😕
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Posted: 14 years ago
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This is an amazing topic dear
When I read the questions u post,I am amazed by the depth of your thinking..

In my view "true love" or an honest love between two people can occur only when they have a quality called selflessness.True love is always unconditional.

Nakku can feel such intensity of love only because of the person she is.She has utmost faith in Almighty ( which is reason for her honesty and truthfulness),she is naive,she lives life through her soul ,with no pretense.

Majority of people in this world live through their mind(which is what they call being practical);this is why they are quick to judge,have prejudices,biases and stereotypes.The truth is always coloured for them in judgement of good or bad; for they take things at face value ,never care to probe deep ,are happy with superficial.Supriya being a normal gal did the same.She could never go beyond the fact that Dutta was a don ,found him repulsive and heartless and never cared to find who Dutta really was.
Nakku on other hand could go beyond the fact that Dutta was a gangster and could see the honesty ,the selflessness ,the pain,the vulnerability,the truthfulness and could know the real Dutta.

Truth always is hidden and is visible only when u take out time and have patience to scratch beneath the surface ,casting aside ur judgement,pejudices,and see things through soul(or heart) and not mind.
She could thereby feel a quality of love which is rare and not easily available to everyone ;for it requires patience,selflessness ,sacrifice.
For power of love lies in giving ,not taking.
A very beautiful thought I read some where that true love is an acceptance of all that is,has been,will be,will not be.......Love is acceptance of all in other :good ,bad AND ugly.This form or level of love is not easy,not available to all and that is precisely why this love story is special and touches us deep,reaches to the core of our being.

I would end with a qoute by G.K..Chesterton:

"There is a road from the eye to heart that does not go through the intellect."

For me,Nakku's love for Dutta is like this.Beyond reasoning and beyond dissection by rationalityy and logic.If you can explain why you love a person,that is not love.

I have written my views on a topic in forum for the first time.Hope it makes sense.

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