If WE LOVE DUTTA,what does that say about US? - Page 2

Originally posted by: sikkaisha

This is an amazing topic dear
When I read the questions u post,I am amazed by the depth of your thinking..

In my view "true love" or an honest love between two people can occur only when they have a quality called selflessness.True love is always unconditional.

Nakku can feel such intensity of love only because of the person she is.She has utmost faith in Almighty ( which is reason for her honesty and truthfulness),she is naive,she lives life through her soul ,with no pretense.

Majority of people in this world live through their mind(which is what they call being practical);this is why they are quick to judge,have prejudices,biases and stereotypes.The truth is always coloured for them in judgement of good or bad; for they take things at face value ,never care to probe deep ,are happy with superficial.Supriya being a normal gal did the same.She could never go beyond the fact that Dutta was a don ,found him repulsive and heartless and never cared to find who Dutta really was.
Nakku on other hand could go beyond the fact that Dutta was a gangster and could see the honesty ,the selflessness ,the pain,the vulnerability,the truthfulness and could know the real Dutta.

Truth always is hidden and is visible only when u take out time and have patience to scratch beneath the surface ,casting aside ur judgement,pejudices,and see things through soul(or heart) and not mind.
She could thereby feel a quality of love which is rare and not easily available to everyone ;for it requires patience,selflessness ,sacrifice.
For power of love lies in giving ,not taking.
A very beautiful thought I read some where that true love is an acceptance of all that is,has been,will be,will not be.......Love is acceptance of all in other :good ,bad AND ugly.This form or level of love is not easy,not available to all and that is precisely why this love story is special and touches us deep,reaches to the core of our being.

I would end with a qoute by G.K..Chesterton:

"There is a road from the eye to heart that does not go through the intellect."

For me,Nakku's love for Dutta is like this.Beyond reasoning and beyond dissection by rationalityy and logic.If you can explain why you love a person,that is not love.

I have written my views on a topic in forum for the first time.Hope it makes sense.

Originally posted by: sikkaisha

This is an amazing topic dear
When I read the questions u post,I am amazed by the depth of your thinking..

In my view "true love" or an honest love between two people can occur only when they have a quality called selflessness.True love is always unconditional.

Nakku can feel such intensity of love only because of the person she is.She has utmost faith in Almighty ( which is reason for her honesty and truthfulness),she is naive,she lives life through her soul ,with no pretense.

Majority of people in this world live through their mind(which is what they call being practical);this is why they are quick to judge,have prejudices,biases and stereotypes.The truth is always coloured for them in judgement of good or bad; for they take things at face value ,never care to probe deep ,are happy with superficial.Supriya being a normal gal did the same.She could never go beyond the fact that Dutta was a don ,found him repulsive and heartless and never cared to find who Dutta really was.
Nakku on other hand could go beyond the fact that Dutta was a gangster and could see the honesty ,the selflessness ,the pain,the vulnerability,the truthfulness and could know the real Dutta.

Truth always is hidden and is visible only when u take out time and have patience to scratch beneath the surface ,casting aside ur judgement,pejudices,and see things through soul(or heart) and not mind.
She could thereby feel a quality of love which is rare and not easily available to everyone ;for it requires patience,selflessness ,sacrifice.
For power of love lies in giving ,not taking.
A very beautiful thought I read some where that true love is an acceptance of all that is,has been,will be,will not be.......Love is acceptance of all in other :good ,bad AND ugly.This form or level of love is not easy,not available to all and that is precisely why this love story is special and touches us deep,reaches to the core of our being.

I would end with a qoute by G.K..Chesterton:

"There is a road from the eye to heart that does not go through the intellect."

For me,Nakku's love for Dutta is like this.Beyond reasoning and beyond dissection by rationalityy and logic.If you can explain why you love a person,that is not love.

I have written my views on a topic in forum for the first time.Hope it makes sense.

Originally posted by: Dancingdoll

Parul, First of all, how many hrs in a day do you spend on LTL? 😛😉....Where do you get such topics from? 😆....Did you actually analyze urself to see what u were to love a character like Dutta? 😉....Okie...Jumping to the topic, now that you made me think too....

On one of your liners...I don't think Naku fell for Dutta the minute he saved her from More...She was awed by that gesture but I dnt think she was in love. Earlier, she had been publicly humilated, she had shouted and cried for help but noone had the guts to stand for her but here came a man, who didnt even wink before helping her. Her one request, her one gesture of hiding behind him, and Naku immediately came under his protective umbrella! He saved her and did not leave her there but took the whole family in the very same umbrella and decided to ensure they are off limits of the unsecured area! That's when the first "Hatke" factor cropped in about him!

Then minute gestures like even noticing her over the rearview mirror, giving away to Sethji's hunger demand and help her with cleaning her hands made her admire him....After all, these gestures, directed at her, were alien to Naku....He took the whole family in his PN and gave them jobs!

Then he came and personally admired her for her guts and bravery and made that compliment very personal. That touched her. Noone had ever complimented her! While the kids and the elders in PN either did a Peekaboo act with her or taunted her about her looks, He was the only one who remained indifferent to her looks...Her admiration only increased for this man and brought in the curious factor....What made Dutta "Hatke"? The curosity took better of this cat and her feet would automatically take her to his room, to peek in his lifestyle and the real traits that made Dutta, what he was! Their convos started gradually and with every conversation, she didnt realize when this admiration changed to love for this man, bcoz this was the first time, a "saab" was not only having meaningful convos with her, but giving enough importance to an "always-ignored-gal" and moreover getting interested in the convos and looking forward to them!...She was been made to feel spl for the first time, Inspite of the color of her skin, she first time felt like a woman!!! A man who can bring alive the woman inside her, becomes the Mr.Right for her! This was what I feel was Naku's journey to her heart!....

Once in love, nothing else mattered! They say, Love is blind, this Love was, atleast when it came to eyeing Dutta's profession or the casulaties of it...Love has no room for ifs and buts....Moreover, the background that Naku hailed from, (don't forget the ingredients that Ganpat constitutes of), a "DON" life isnt something that sends shocking waves...Crime was an everyday show for her even if in small scale....Hence, For Naku, she saw the Honesty, Integrity and clean heartedness, not the profession....She has no issues in Ganpat being part of the underworld, but she has issues if he swindles his boss! The nature of work didnt matter as long as that was also done with honesty!...Thats the mindset of an uneducated, tabooed gal from the low class society...First time, she was being cared for, Love was inevitable! Love never sees logic, this was no exception....And the dirtbags that she has seen in and around her, Dutta was anythign but a dirt bag....

Take for eg - More...He had a reputable career in the eyes of the society, but what exactly was he? 1st order dirtbag...The exp that she went thru' her parameters had to be - Not the choice of career but the person that the man was...People in and around her were atrocious to her family and her, not because of their choice of career but for the values (or no-values) that they potrayed, and hence, what became imp for her was a clean heart rather than a career....This profession was one she saw in front of her eyes, germinating day in day out in some nook-corner of her basti!....She was immune to this profession!!! This thought doesnt even come in her mind....For her, she is part of his life and the internals of PN and Dutta and that is what matters to her!!!...I dnt think she even stops to think about it....Robin Hood is always admired for his intentions and gestures, noone stops to think the "means" he adopts to "help" people...Those people just love him blindly....

Coming to Sups, If I was in her place, I wouldnt have fallen for Dutta - Agreed! Here is why -

1. Sups was already in love and hence, everyone else seemed undesirable to her from that perspective!...

2. She was angry at everyone for not attaining her love and the guy chosen for her, She had to find some disgusting aspect about him to justify her anger....Well, Since she knows Dutta superficially, On the surface, his "profession' itself gave her 1001 reasons to hate him...

3. I suspect, she had not seen the world of crime as closely as Naku had....For such a person, crime is a very BIG thing...You and I can put ourselves in her shoes and thank our stars for being away from this world!...

So, she wasnt wrong in not falling for Dutta or for that matter being disgusted too.....and we loved to hate her because we were already in love with Dutta....but then she gave us one more reason to hate her....Since she had her valid reasons for not wanting to marry him, stick to them and the principles...If I was in her place, I wouldnt have been in cahoots with the "Wrong guys" and commit wrong...Don't cheat! ....If you too adopt to cheating, then what is the diff between Dutta's profession and you? She too did wrong, cheated Dutta, framed Naku, made lot of innocent ppl die....How was she diff? Well, I will say she was coward and so was her Mwali, not to stand for what they believe!! They took the easiest route they thought would set them free!!!...A situation in their life made them take the wrong route, well, so, did Dutta....She wasnt diff from him then....excpet he had to stick with the route, but she is leading a normal life right now....

BTW, when a certain real life DON was captured along with his wife and extradited to India, teher was a wave of gals who became fascinated and interested in the "handsome" DON...They fantasized about him, his story was overly romanticized, thats when a leading Newspaper ran a column on "Why girls have inclination towards Macho, yet bad guys".....What makes a DON appealing for a normal girl....It went to show that how this "career", enveloped in the Macho trait was more appealing to a girl....Will search for tht article and send u, if I find it...It was an interesting read!