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Posted: 10 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: shubh-aarambh

! I mean the one which he says during the mms track.. It was a faltu logic which he gave when pragya tells about his right to question her when he himself is in an illegitimate relationship..


I know right!!! "I've made a commitment to her, I'm going to stay faithful to her." The blind hypocrisy of that scene rings in my ears still. UGH!


Originally posted by: shubh-aarambh

Actually like purab and pragya claim at times.. Abhi is a darbokh.. Just didn't have courage to do what he wanted.. Abhi opening his mouth for pragya is just a small attempt of him to show that he has spine. expecting much more 😆


LOL when have Purab-Pragya said that!! I like it. He did lack courage. Lacked courage to be himself and hurt daadi and deal with the consequences. Lacked courage to give up on his own wishes and be honest and live only per Daadi. Lacked courage to find his way out of the mess after he realized it was all a mistake.


And expecting much more is fair...but it's gonna be a long, irritating wait 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
#72

Originally posted by: ...Binny...


I agree Mina he's an idiot.. mainly because he doesn't have the courage to accept the consequences of his actions.. . I'm not overlooking his better aspects yet I refuse to overlook his stupidity either.. which at this point is harming others more so then him.. It's time he pulled it together and behaved like an adult..

he has obviously accepted responsibility for Tanu's child one would think he would attempt to help P out by being honest for a change.. but then that is simply too much to ask atm..!!


Agreed agreed agreed 😆 👏

"Abhi has to protect his Daadi's health. It would hurt her feelings to know his life choices because she's of a different generation. We make such compromises to respect our elders."

That is an answer that has been suggested to me in the past when I complain about Abhi living lie after lie after lie. Bottom line is that while it's good to respect Daadi, it is selfish to lie all the time. Courage to accept consequences would be more admirable than this method of pretending to be something he's not so Daadi never has to be disappointed in him.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: poiu123

Some people said his perspective in on the baby is not shown. But that's not true. It has been shown in one of the episode s ,he says to Pragya in the red Saree that he can't let go of p or his baby. HIS baby. He wants the baby too. As a viewer I believe what is shown. He wants his illegitimate child and his legal wife. The child's mother is just an inconvenience now.


Right??? Of course a lot of the show is up to interpretation and people can have differing understandings of the same sequences. But to me there's been no mystery about Abhi intending to accept his child and Tanu despite not wanting anything in his life to change. Shown clearly in the show imo. I can't quote scenes to prove it though because my memory doesn't work like that 😛

Originally posted by: poiu123

He fears to tell the truth to Dadi ,because of his dadis health . I wonder if this just an excuse and he actually scared of the consequences and that's why he does not want to tell her.


Again something that is up to interpretation. People who are sympathetic to Abhi really believe his lies are about Daadi's health. I believe they are about his own ego. Scared of the consequences indeed. I think he showed a hint that he might be brave enough to face them eventually - when he absolutely can't delay anymore, like in the scene where he told the truth about Pragya's non pregnancy.

Originally posted by: poiu123

A lot has been said that he ready to take the bullet for Pragya and ready to die for her is proof of his love or redemption for his wrong doings.It's not as per me.The situation was that Pragya was standing in front of him and shielding him. She was the one who was ready to take the bullet for him. If he had stood there and watched the tamasha I.e watch another human being die for him from the sidelines he would have officially been the most shameless and spineless lead in the history of tv. He would have done the same if it were bulbul, Purvi, meethu fan girl or a stranger on the road or golddigger pragya. He does have basic decency and humanity ,that I admit.


Eee! God I love the way you've put this! I've not seen anyone else summarize it like that and I find it really compelling. I think for me what would matter is who Neil was intending to shoot, and as far as I remember that was Pragya. So I also accept the point that Abhi deliberately took her bullet.

But as you pointed out - what kind of a wretch of a human being would he be if he hadn't??? And does he deserve outsize credit for a heroic act if we consider it in that light?

You can guess my answer 😉

Congrats on jumping to the dazzler rank poiu!! 🥳
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Posted: 10 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: berrysweet

Love this post! Just shows that we have many strong powerful women among us.

Yayyy!

Thank you Ms Mina .


Thank you. Glad it led to so much talk and discovery of like minds 😃
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: book.worm

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Hi Mina,


I normally don't post anything on
the forum outside of fanfiction threads, let's just say that I learned a big
lesson from my older show days where there were fans fighting and protecting their
fav, but here I decided to take the plunge because the topic is very tempting.


I have to disagree with you that Abhi
needs to be congratulated for what he did, because I still don't think he did
anything to be congratulated. If he had told Daadi the full truth, then he would
have deserved it but he just told her the half-truth, that too the "safe truth".
He did give big speeches but all I heard was "I told Pragya to lie because I couldn't see Daadi hurt." Which means
"I forced Pragya to lie because I couldn't see Daadi hurt as I love her a lot and
I am the ever dutiful grandson." When in truth, the whole lie started simply to
save his ass.


I have only followed Abhi-Pragya
story from the beginning and skipped everything else, so these are my thoughts.
To tell the truth, Abhi has always come across like a dick (please excuse my
language). Granted that he married Pragya because of a misunderstanding created
by Aliyah but I still hold him responsible for everything that happened to
Pragya after she got married to him. Starting with finding him in his bathrobe
at Tanu's on their wedding night. The way Pragya had cried in the middle of
nowhere at night, has been etched into my brains. Then the constant insults on
her, the comparison to his supermodel girlfriend, the pin incident, every time
he dropped her (once two times in a row and in real life, that could have
caused her major harm and he didn't stop that because he felt guilty, it was because
Daadi had taught/told Pragya to not let go of his hand while they danced, and
she didn't leading to him falling down and learning the lesson and being scared
of future such humiliation), don't forget his dirty dancing with Tanu for the
reception, beating up Puneet, trying to get her drunk in the party to humiliate
her (and he deserves no brownie points for looking after her, he did that because
Daadi was mad at him and he didn't want to cause more troubles and he had no
choice other than to stop her from creating more problems.), then the time, he instead
of stopping Aliyah and Tanu, he joined them in the trying to project Pragya as
a thief etc. Lots more but can't remember everything at once.


In spite of everything, I still LOVE and ADORE Abhi, not because he is a good at heart, loving person. NO,
I care for Abhi so much because he is being played by Shabbir Ahluwalia.If Abhi was played by any actor other than one
of my fav, I would have definitely hated him and wanted Pragya to find someone
more deserving of her.


Granted, that Abhi has done a lot
for her in many big ways, but the truth is that he was a douchebag to her. He
is taking baby steps but he has a lot of growing up to do. He is still Daadi's
little grandson and not a husband or for that matter, a boyfriend.


I know, many feel that Abhi shouldn't
be punished for Tanu's pregnancy when he was not responsible but I beg to
differ. Abhi is the only person to be blamed for this mess. Because he had
given Tanu so much power that she can now claim to be pregnant by him. He didn't
keep her at arm's distance. And they have showed us that Abhi and Tanu trying
to spend the night together before Daadi crash landed on them all the time. If they
had really decided on all keeping the limit blah blah blah, then he shouldn't have
done anything that could lead to sex. When he screams at Tanu about the
celibacy thing, it comes out like a last minute save from the CV, it did look
kinda disgusting to me, as when I recall what they had shown, it was like "let's
make out and do all the naughty deeds just not "sex"" what kind of keeping
their limits is that?

He had thrown Tanu in Pragya's
face a lot of times. He had more than once asked Pragya to get out of the room
as he wanted to romance Tanu. He had let his girlfriend and sister, insult
Pragya and torture her. During the karvachaut, Pragya genuinely kept vrath for
him and Tanu kept fake one, still he appreciated Tanu's and called Pragya's
fake. Till today, he doesn't know the truth but now he knows Pragya and I don't see him recalling all
the times he had hurt her and humiliated her, and realized that he had wronged
her, and it is not in her character to manipulate or do such things he had accused her of. He did apologize to her when he was shot but that doesn't count, simply because
in deathbed, people do apologize to everything that they did. He had to be in
deathbed for him to grace Pragya with an apology. Pragya deserved more than that.


I don't blame Pragya in believing
that Tanu is pregnant by Abhi and Abhi & Tanu wants to be together, because
as far as Abhi had showed her, that is the truth. Pragya's reading on Abhi's
hesitance, regret and inaction in this whole pregnancy situation is that Abhi
is worried about Daadi being hurt, and not because he has started to love her.
In her eyes, she is the hurdle that Abhi and Tanu have to cross for their
happily ever after. The only thing stopping Abhi to "do the right thing" is that
she is his wife and his Daadi adores her. So she goes about doing what she
things is the right thing however illogical or stupid that is.

Even after Abhi found out about Tanu's
pregnancy, the first few episodes, he was more interested in making Pragya confessing
her love than he taking care of the matters. And I guess the audience reacted
badly to that so CVs then changed that track and he became a mute spectator and
he speaks up only when every member of the family had insulted and accused Pragya,
then he would as usual swoop in to save the day.

I still don't think that Abhi has
redeemed himself or done things to deserve the love and adoration Pragya is
giving him. He needs to go a long way before he is worthy of her.


I do agree that Abhi needs to man
up. He needs to man-up and tell Tanu, "Talk to me. Scream at me. Don't scream
and pressurize Pragya for anything because it is not her mess to clear. It is
OURS. Most importantly yours as you were in your senses while I was drunk when
it happened and you could have stopped it or taken precaution as you know my
situation." Here he is avoiding Tanu
like anything while he says that he wants his baby and family's vansh is
growing in Tanu. Abhi has become a mere
spectator while he should be proactive, instead of redeeming Abhi in this
track, the CVs are ruining his character. Abhi told Pragya, that he will take
care of the whole pregnancy issue, if that is the case then he should do
something about it when he knows that Tanu is forcing Pragya to do many of the
stupid things that she is doing. He has seen how Tanu is manipulating Pragya
into doing all this. But he is just standing back and watching the drama. Truthfully,
Abhi is acting like Pragya got Tanu pregnant, and while she sorted out the
mess, he is standing back and wondering how the hell that happened.

And after watching K-soaps for
over a decade, I think it is safe to assume that when Abhi gathers the courage
to tell Daadi the truth, that time Daadi would find out the truth through other
sources. Again, the chances of his redemption goes down the drain. Though I do
have some hope with KKB, as this is one of the few K-soap, that has managed to bring
out most of the truth and proving the innocence of the character but it still
manages to keep the negative character safe from exposure.

Sorry for the rant, but had to
say it. Don't even know if I made any sense as my thoughts were all over the place. Let me, say this once more that I LOVE
Abhi, and want Pragya and Abhi to get together, (only because it is Shabbo❤️).


- Lazy

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👏 u have expressed all exactly like how I felt...I felt the same way too..thanks for the post
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Posted: 10 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: -mina-


The mistake was keeping Tanu in his life and putting her in the position to claim it's his baby. He thinks it is his baby and he has pledged to support Tanu (to her and and her parents and in front of Pragya) so yes, he has to publicly take responsibility.

He keeps saying he wants to fix his mistake of ruining Pragya's life. Taking full blame for his own actions would be a first step. He cannot undo what he has done but he can be honest about it.



i really agree!
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Posted: 10 years ago
#77
Lovely posts, all. Glad indeed to know we have strong women in our midst.
To me too, the actor is secondary to the character (which is a tribute to the actor who can so get under the skin of the character he is playing) but as far as Abhi goes he is totally undeserving of Pragya.
Edited by soapwatcher1 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#78

Originally posted by: anamika.vg



👏 u have expressed all exactly like how I felt...I felt the same way too..thanks for the post



👏👏👏 can't agree with you more dear
@ red- I wanted add Pune trip, the way he treated Pragya and Bulbul's roka by swimming pool, he wanted to spend time with Tanu. After all these, Abhi saied Tanu: we decided the we will meet but will not cross our limits, we will maintain distance blah blah... I can't believe how CV's took U turn here to save Abhi, did they forget what they have been showing since Abhigya marriage OR they think viewers are suffering from amnesia?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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The part bolded in red is so key. The writers can retcon the whole sex thing but they can't retcon that Abhi put Tanu in the position to do this in the first place by keeping her close, declaring his love, etc. Tanu being pregnant is, in a sense, moot because the problematic behavior isn't simply sleeping with her (or rather not sleeping with her); it's keeping up extramarital relations with her on any level at all, which he did.

That's the same reason I don't like the MU argument when it comes to Abhi marrying Pragya either. The MU deflects from the bigger problem, which is what kind of a problematic person do you have to be to marry someone to inflict revenge and prevent your best friend from marrying who he wants?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Abhi is not just scared of loosing dadi, he is also scared of loosing all the respect and pride that dadi/family has for him. Now he is also scared of loosing Pragya. Abhi has said many times that dadi is his inspiration etc etc. He is emotionally weak person, he depends on dadi & pragya most of the times. Now he has no one so I don't think he will be in any position to understand tanu's lies. I would love it if he figures out everything and clean up the mess.

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