(Non) Sense & (In) Sensibility - Page 3

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

<font color="#0000ff">I liked this part very much. In general commentary. And the bolded, very beautifully said. No matter how many action movies or soaps we watch or violent video games we can indulge in, the matter of someone lifting their hand to slap or beat someone, shows a temper that needs control. There is no excuse for that and the present times are not the barbaric times of old. Heros torturing their heroine in the name of revenge or passionate love is not in good taste and likewise heroines going around slapping men is also not warranted, keeping in mind how the weaker men can get violent in reactionary rage. Its Social Manners and Social Preservation.</font>

<font color="#0000ff">Beating up is associated with Bully and Thug behaviour. Period.</font>

<font color="#0000ff">We should ask ourselves, can we lift our hands like that? Would we be able to take that slap or beating?</font>

<font color="#0000ff">Has anyone...how literally its traumatic with "Din mein taare nazar aana?" when we get hit. One simple fall on the road leaves us with scratch or bruise or sprain. And one strong swoop or press of even finger, brings tears to your eyes.</font>

<font color="#0000ff">Forget the idea of pain, Indians do not even know anything about Trauma handling. India lacks the culture of asking when one is in shock..."Are you okay? Can you see clearly? Do you see my fingers?" Without even giving time to recuperate, the person is treated like a robot to give systematic answers. Sigh!!! Human Values...where are Thou?</font>

Thanks for affirming what I said :) You are absolutely right, asking ourselves the question, "would we be okay in such a situation being dropped and prodded with a pin or even hitting another?" does put a lot in perspective.

The actors are awesome, their comic scenes are grin worthy but this shifts a lot of responsibility onto the writers, even if they write such tracks for TRPs, the progression of the storyline should demonstrate that such vile behavior is always punished, never rewarded. That is what made me mad when Pragya gave those "come hither" looks to Abhi. She should be shown of sterner stuff, standing her ground and teaching the cad a lesson, however endearing he appears, not forgiving all and begging for crumbs just because he is her patidev. If such feelings were to be warranted from Pragya's side as a stepping stone to the love story that is inevitable in the soap then the CVs should portray alongside of Abhi realizing he has feelings for her, an almost subconscious avoidance of Tannu and not an avid seeking out of bird brain for hugs and kisses at a family event.

So I read over the written summary and I'm not even sure I want to watch the episode anymore. Ugh.

Originally posted by: -Tia-

Abhi beats up men when they bother his women. No question on that. He has a temper and violent streak in him but he reserves it to men (so far at least).

But does Abhi get physically violent with women, especially Pragya?

My answer is NO.

We also need to consider when Abhi is really mad at Pragya. Their first confrontation the next day of wedding... and when they argue over if she loves Purab or not (she is wearing a red suit, him in black Tee, he says he will get independence on Aug 15), and when they come back from police station and Daadi shouts on him for the first time..he is also mad at Pragya for good.

But those times, he doesn't even touch her. Just means, when he is serious, he does not get physical with her.

Rest of whatever he has done is to be taken as light hearted annoyance.. more in a childish, tit for tat manner.

Pragya once makes him dip his finger in hot coffee.. although unintentional, he thinks it was intentional. That's not violence either! Lol.

Technically, we dont know the answer... and we dont know if the answer is indeed NO.

We want to believe Abhi is kind and gentle towards women and he is certainly charming and endearing. But the same way that he can beat up Punit for "spying" on him and Tannu, the same anger he could turn on anyone.

What if it was Bulbul or Purvi who saw him with Tannu? Then what? What would he have done... maybe not physically beat them, but hurt or threaten them in some way too. Right? Cause really, I DO NOT believe that Abhi hit Punit for spying on Tannu... he was more mad about being caught and maybe guilty as well.

To save his own skin, Abhi threw the blame on Punit... making Punit the issue instead of manning up and facing his OWN issues.

Violence starts off small and can end up big. We never know whats the true trigger that can set violence from pins to other things.

No sort of violence is justified despite how cute the scenes are.

Like Janhvi said, if he dropped Pragya 3 times, he did them intentionally and he did not know that she was going to be hurt or not. He doesnt have the power to know that dropping her would NOT hurt her.

AND - something intentional that I did not like... and we cannot say it wasnt intentional, cause it was.

When they started decorating for Aliya's wedding activities and Pragya fell and he caught her, then he dropped her onto the ground after she was in his arms and she complained she was hurt and her back was hurting... Daadi made him take her to the room and instead of laying her on the bed knowing that her back was in pain, he dumped her there and she was in MORE pain.

So... The little things add up.

Please note - this in NO way takes away from the actor. He is sooo good, Shabbir makes me think Abhi is adorable sometimes.

Abhi did not beat up Punit for spying on him and Tannu.. but only for peeping through to see Tannu... It was obvious Friday itself and he cleared it today again to Pragya.

Originally posted by: veeleo

So I read over the written summary and I'm not even sure I want to watch the episode anymore. Ugh.

I enjoyed reading ur post and sharing ur views!

Can agree with many of ur views.

I know soaps are all for entertainment value. But as the audience, we can still request that entertainment be something of substance and realistic to some degree.

@soapwatcher1, why did you like my last post? LOL.

Ash, absolutely delighted to see you here :)) BTW, love this show inspite of all its irrationalities.

Originally posted by: -Tia-

@soapwatcher1, why did you like my last post? LOL.

I have got used to seeing (non ) sense in daily soaps having watched some 50-60 of them over the years. So it does not bother me and I do find this one entertaining and performances of the 2 leads awesome. And yes though I thought dropping P was not in good taste, I did not mind the hairpin at all. My mom has long hair and uses a similar hairpin. The tips are blunt . it does not really hurt if someone pokes you with it. I tried it 😃 I ts mildly annoying that's it. Its not that Abhi pokes her really hard with it.

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

Because you wrote it and I like reading your views even if we may not agree on all things being said/shown in this soap. 😉