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Posted: 13 years ago
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Deepa , in my estimation, mallu is like this because of long term personsonal problems. If you remember Inthe beginning episodes Aditya, in an emotional scene with Mallika, he had said that Mallika, had helped raise her siblings, educated them etc, and that she had sacrificed her youth and had not even gotten married, for that reason. Mallika has latched on to ashu because he has been a constant in his life, he has been always been there as a person who has supported her during most of her adult life, in all situations, from the smallest like plumbing problems, to the big things like getting her the position at KGH. And to some extent ashu has inadvertently encouraged her, he knew she loved him, he should have made it clear that there was no hope what so ever for anything other than friendship. Letting it go for so long, also increased her dependency. If you get used to something , it's hard to give it up. He is her security, in her insecure world, he is her pillar, where asshe has had to be the sole support of her family. So it is hard to give him up. Giving up ashu, means rocking the foundation on which she stands.
This is just my POV.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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On a serious note, this also begs the question why didn't Ashu ensure that she let go of her obsession...I know you can't blame another person for an individual's actions/decisions...but Mallika is not any other person...she is his dearest friend...and, forget the personal level, even at a medical level Ashutosh should have known what an unhealthy obsession could do to a person...why then did he not do something drastic about it...

I would like to draw a comparison here with Nidhi's decision to leave for Europe...I believe that the decision was as much for her peace as it was for Rohan's...she knew her continued presence would feed Rohan's hopes and there would be added family pressure too...she knew she would never be able to give them what they wanted...so she chose to remove herself from the scene to spare them all the agony...I am not saying running away is the solution...but putting a distance surely works...in helping you, and in case the problem too, gain perspective...

On whether Ashutosh was aware of her feelings for him or not, I think he certainly was...there was no evidence of surprise at any point,,,,and he clearly said that he had not asked her to wait and in fact made himself clear to her on umpteen occasions...so he was aware she was not moving on...if you loved your friend and cared for them as much as Ashutosh did, should this not have pained him? I realize he could not have forced her but he surely could have done something to take himself out of the equation...sometimes, you got to be cruel to be kind...he could have moved away at least for a short period to help her gain perspective...however, it suited him fine to have a platonic friendship that fulfilled whatever little need he had for companionship he had...to be fair to him, he did offer her the same in return...but he knew that this would never be enough...she would always want more...he certainly was not to blame for that...you can't blame him as a person for his choices but he certainly failed as a friend...

As for Mallika, Ashutosh was probably her only failure...the only thing that she wanted but could not have...so it was a combination of a love turned obsession and a serious case of hurt ego/pride...so long as she did not get Ashutosh, she would remain a failure,,,and that was something she just could not take!

Edited by Sujatha.rao - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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she is just following DK-sheena's thinking- mere nahi to kisi aur ke bhi nahi- too the extreme.

Normally if your friend falls for u and u know that u will never feel the same,U make it clear - Like Ashutosh did . But when u see that even after that , your friend is still not moving on, then u got to distanciate yourself from her.. Plus he continued to be a bachelor and complimented her, called her his best friend etc This put Mallika in a make-believe world and she refused to see the truth and also was wrongy encouraged By Sue.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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very interesting ques raised deepa...

i am not sure if anyone will agree... i feel ashu is also in some way responsible for her obsessive behavior... although unintentionally.. he did behave in a certain way which made mallika assume that she is 'special' for him... the first episode itself had a dialogue from a mallika " mujhe lagta tha meri jagah kuch khaas hai tumhari zindagi mein"... and why she said so was proved by the many dialogues we have heard .. they used to spend hours in london together... maybe 24/7..he used to smuggle pizzas on her demand... stand in long queue for concert tickets... become her plumber whtever... and finally.. be in same overcoat in london tubes... any normal girl will think tht this man has special feelings for her... and this certain confidence later became arrogance and obsession..when nidhi entered a space which she thought she owned...
and like u said..in pyar tune... i agree fardeen khan was also responsible..the kind of looks he gave urmila...
here ashu might not have given physical/s****l signals to mallika...but his acts /behavior ( unintentional ) brought him emotionally very close to mallika..which is worse than physical bonding i feel..

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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Sujatha-I completely agree with ut later part regarding Ashu.Ashu and Mallu shared the closeness which they didn't have with anyone else,be it from Ashu's side or from Mallu's side,be it Male friend or Female friend.Regarding Armaan,he was in Mumbai since long and Ashu always said that Mallu is his best friend-so even Armaan was nowhere to be compared with Mallu as the close friend of Ashutosh.

Now as a close friend,how Ashu couldn't feel Mallu's Love or Obsession towards him especially when Mallu wasn't marrying?He must huv gotta clue,in this circumstances he should huv accepted Mallu or had to avoid her completely to discourage this obsession and false hope.But Ashu ignored it and enjoyed Mallu's friendship-thus they remained close.And as Ashu was single,Mallu's hope remained alive-Ashu should huv the idea of it.
If Ashu did nothing wrong and never gave signal then he didn't do right things enough also-so he must has some share of this mess.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Deepa? Is this ur thread post??? Wow. Koi bade emoticons nahi... Aise kaise hua??? Anyway, nice thoughtful post.. Mallu is over obessed with ashu.. She think is made only for her noone else.. She just can't see ashu with anyone else.. Whereas ashu sees mallu only as a frnd.. Even if mallu puts dire sequences on ashu.. He will never marry her..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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from first mallika is seemed good dr.but from first episode ashu called as heart stone.and written about this story track cv written a lucknow based dr who always gave priority to his work not to his personal life.mallika tried to convience him again and again for marriage but he refuse it several time.when mallika told him that she is thinking about marriage he said kar lo.He thinks ashu as her property and on him she is the only[daavedaar] now she losted everything for ahu[ashus pov] so he is takin care of her only as a friend.because he told armaan when mallika commited suicide that mallika is his friend and everytime he will take care of her.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: aardhan

Deepa, I feel the answer is in her need to be a perfectionist and possess all things unique. Remember her perfect house, her perfect career as a successful surgeon, her collection of unique antique jewellery. So in her mind Ashu was the perfect candidate as a husband, tall, handsome, very intelligent, sophisticated tastes, a thorough gentleman. So she wanted to have the perfect married life. I feel more than Ashu its this dream of becoming a perfect couple with Ashu that is her obsession. Maybe they were complimented a few times when they would have gone out together. And as long as Ashu remained single she was not threatened but when Nidhi came on the scene she felt this perfect dream evaporating and that was something she could not let happen.

I feel Mallu is also vain, she is very proud of her beauty and brains. Look at he way she used to dress, nothing out of place, everything perfectly selected to enhance her beauty. I feel Mallu also has a huge ego and always wants to be the center of attention, the most important person. Like you said she could have had anyone falling at her feet but the fact that the one person Ashu whom she wanted falling at her feet did not just irked her to no end. Initially her ego must have been hurt that Ashu was not giving her the type of attention she craved and this probably motivated her to keep pushing him. She just could not accept that Ashu would refuse someone as beautiful and intelligent as her. So, he became a challenge for her. Finally he would have relented enough to be her friend and over the years they became very good friends but never more than that for him. He was simply not interested.

As long as she feels needed and everyone is dependent on her she is fine. Example is her brother who never stopped thanking her for looking after him or bringing him up, etc, etc. So when Ashu did not want Mallu as a GF, I think every time he praised her for being a doctor, helping him, she must have been elated just being praised by him, it fanned her ego. In the earlier epis we have seen him praise her as a doctor but everytime she steered the topic towards their relationship he either refused point blank or diverted the topic.

As Nidhi came along, she stopped being his center of attention and also her vanity took a beating as she simply could not comprehend that Ashu found someone other than her beautiful. When he praised Nidhi as having a potential of being a brilliant doctor her inner radar kicked on and she perceived her as competition. How could Ashu find someone else with beauty and brains! Thus started her struggle to keep Ashu to her side and very quickly spiraled into an obsession with Sue constantly fanning the flame of jealousy. After years of being his only friend and sharing everything except his name and physical intimacy, she probably could not bear to see him change for this young girl. She probably saw love in his eyes for Nidhi, the kind she had always wanted to see for herself and it angered her. After being on the mainline for so long she just refused to get sidelined!

Well, Deepa I tried to explain the issue only from Mallu's POV. This does not include what Ashu thought or did in this relationship. As you said he never encouraged her by giving any signs and in fact on a couple of occasions even suggested her to get married.



i do agree wid u when u say mallika was a perfectionist.. perfect house ,perfect career and a perfect husband was all she wanted .. in short a perfect life..
but i dare say,ashu was not a perfect husband material.. a terribly insecure and house OCD...he was a good person..and a good friend no doubt .but he was always involved in his own insecurities!

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: khush93

Mallika is an obssessed lover. Untill Nidhi came in Ashutosh life , noone was there in his life and Mallika is always his closest friend.Ashutosh never gave any signal and always rejected her proposal but politely.
So Mallika always thought that one day he will accept her as a wife. But when Nidhi came in his life everything ruined and she became obssessed lover.
just my POV


i know she is a obsessed lover.. am tryin 2 understand why?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Malvika_rajeev

Deepa, Very valid question, and a nice pondering thought over the weekend.

Well, in the past episodes, AShu never gave any committments to Mallika for anything further than a friendship (the dialogue: dosti se kam aur dosti se zyaada...) even when she proposed to him pointblank, even to the point of emotional blackmail with BB's house as a bargaining card, he refused to comply.

Well, from a psychological POV, this is a combo of ego-vanity-comfort zone. She just refused to see the facts and dwelt in the illusion that Ashu will be hers some day. All this was fuelled by her SIL (remember she even made Aditya get a ring for Ashu?)

When Ashu confessed his relation with Nidhi, Mallika blew up...How could you? mein itne barah saal se tumhara intezaar kar rahi thi aur woh kal ki aayi ladki...AShu told her, I didnt ask u to wait!!

That should have been enough for Mallika to wake up to reality. But she never chose to go that way.

From a medical college POV, deep friendships are common. when two classmates spend 24X7 together, (they could be of opposite sex) they know each other so well, so well, (well I dont mean the term soulmates nahin to joote padenge mere upar) and even when one of them gets married, the friendship continues, but at a different platform. Mind you, I am not talking about an obsessed relationship, as displayed by Mallika.

I have had such friends, all male, and even today, they continue to be that way, even after marriage and with kids. The joke being that my husband turns to them for help after a jhagada with me!!! I am friends with their wives, their wives ask me their favorites and the college gossips etc etc..

Wont bore you further with these details...but Mallika should have woken to reality a long time ago. There is a saying: when dreams take command of your life, you end up in the pigsty.

Malvika


malvika ,when u put it that way ,it does make sense..yes ,collage frens often fall in love .. but in this case,ashu never ever gave the hints ..and she should have woken up 2 reality.. but why didnt she?
@ sumi.. do u think that we woman have this intutive thing ? could u please elaborate that?

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