*Season 2, Week 30* Analysis Thread - Page 12

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Posted: 8 years ago
@ Lakshmi, I am in the same boat.
I stopped watching the serial. Only visiting forum & reading updates.
Being a loyal fan of shaheer, this much only I can take.
My heart sinks at the evil winning.
I can't take anymore. Maybe I will skip another 25 episodes.
Hopefully by that time track changes.
I survived everything. This I couldn't tolerate.
I think Dev is better off without 3 ladies in his life.

I think Vicky should again endanger dev's life.
Then only these 3 will realize.
I am sure that is what is going to happen.
I cannot watch that.
Will continue reading this thread.
Sorry for my rant.
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Posted: 8 years ago
Just finished watching the episode. I might be way off. But felt that they are working together this time. Sona's dialogue on changing their approach as parents, not confronting Soha, Asha's dialogue on taking your better halves help because you complete each other 🤔 May be I am seeing things I want to see. Anyway will wait and watch.
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Posted: 8 years ago
I do not know if I am overanalysing but a couple of instances in yesterday's episode caught my attention. The first was when Sonakshi was asking Asha that can she take her old things to Dixit house, she first said "Kya main inhe apne ghar le jaa sakti hoon " and then clarified saying I meant Dixit House, was it an indication that eventhough Sonakshi is with Dev now she still has really not come to terms in accepting Ishwari Niwas as her own home or was she in a cryptic way telling to Asha that though she has shifted to Dixit house still Bose house was her first Own home??
The second one is the conversation which Asha had with Sonakshi about being the better half and how Dev was fulfilling it and asks Sonakshi that it's her turn now, was she in way indicating Sonakshi that it's time you start giving your partner equal right in the relationship and allow him to iron out your flaws, what adds to this was the way Sonakshi was remembering Asha's words when she was with Dev, it seemed that she understood what Asha meant and the efforts Dev made to be an equal partner in the relationship.

As I said I might be overanalysing but these two things caught my attention. This series is like quicksand the more you try to come out of it the more it pulls us into it.
Just my POV, no offence.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: ltelidevara

Asha2012

You still have a doubt in which way Sona's Charecter is being moulded by CVs? Yes. Your fear is right. It is going just the typical TV heroine way. Whatever little hopes I have reg. her realisation in Vikky issue I completely lost it. Finally I tuned my mind towards the fact that she won't let Dev deal with Vikky in his own way. The way she is asking Iswari to persuade Dev to personally visit Vikky and convince him to return home made me sad and heartbroken for Dev.


Throughout Season 1 Dev had to dance to Iswari's tunes. Now it looks like he has to bend before his daughter and Ofcourse his wife who is hell bent on bringing Vikky back . Dev clearly said asked when did Vikky really take care of his parents? Still she fails to see reason and sense in his words.

Surprisingly she is not finding any other solution to win Soha back except getting back Vikky and family to Iswari Nivas. Dev is confident when he said we will prove we are good parents. Isn't it advisable to chalk out a plan to appease Soha ? Children are like clay that can be given any shape.They won't keep bad feelings at heart for a long time.So may be a trip abroad,or a visit to friends place ...anything they can try. First and foremost they have to spend time with her and make her realise she is their life support system.

Coming episodes will certainly break me down but can't stayaway... Shaheer won't let me do so.

Sorry if my post offended any one.

Lakshmi



For me what was more surprising was that she had a discussion with Asha on how husband & wife are better half to each other and she seemed to understand that yet she was committing the same mistake again of letting others have a say in a matter which actually should have been resolved by both working as a team . I could not connect with her on that and unfortunately she is falling into the same trap which Dev fell into in season 1, searching for short term solutions instead of getting a solution which will help in the long run
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: sp12



For me what was more surprising was that she had a discussion with Asha on how husband & wife are better half to each other and she seemed to understand that yet she was committing the same mistake again of letting others have a say in a matter which actually should have been resolved by both working as a team . I could not connect with her on that and unfortunately she is falling into the same trap which Dev fell into in season 1, searching for short term solutions instead of getting a solution which will help in the long run



SP12, as I have mentioned earlier, Sonakshi's biggest flaw is her thinking that she knows right from wrong and hence never makes mistakes. We as viewers feel that she is making the same mistake again because we think that she made the same mistake before. But Sonakshi doesn't think so. She doesn't think she did anything wrong. From her pov, the circumstances were such that I had no choice but to believe Vickky. But I am smarter now and in longer mistrusting Dev. The circumstances are not the same. Hence I am not wrong this time too. And since I am a good judge of character, I see Vickky trying to change and I am right. 😃 .

As to remembering Asha's words, Sonakshi has selective hearing and memory. She only heard what she wanted to hear. And that is "Dev is flawed and imperfect and I am the one to complete him. It is my responsibility to fill those gaps where he is not strong and fix his mistakes". That is why she is now trying to fix what she perceives as a mistake that needs immediate attention for everyone's good. She has assumed and accepted that Dev is miserable without Golu. It is true that he is miserable, but if he is asked to make a choice between Suhana and Golu, he will pick Suhana as she is his flesh and blood. He will be sad and sorry to see Golu go, but if having Golu in life means losing Suhana, he has his priorities set. But he has not communicated the same to Sonakshi. And she is going by her assumption and her belief that she knows Dev. Since Dev earlier used to say sorry to her on behalf of his family, she is now doing the same.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Shaavi: Following along with your posts, and I totally agree with what you are saying for the most part, but for this idea that Dev would choose Soha over Golu. Knowing Dev, he simply will not entertain the idea of choosing in the first place. He is very confident that he is the one who has given Golu the most love (was happy to hear that!), and confident in Golu's love in return, and in his eyes, that gives him more right over Golu than Vicky or Elena. That is what I think Sona is missing -- she sees Vicky, Elena, and Golu as a legitimate unit that should be treated as she, would wish her unit of Dev, Sona, Soha to be treated. Dev sees them as a farce, because unlike Sona, he has watched Vicky and Elena neglect Golu for seven years. A week or ten days is not going to change his perception overnight.

In Dev's mind, he and Golu are the real unit, and he will fight for that just as much as he will fight for his unit with Sona and Soha, though perhaps with a different approach. He does need to communicate this to her properly, though. I can understand not wanting to bad-mouth Vicky in front of the kids, but at least tell Sona about the way he has behaved in the past seven years. I liked his candidness about Vicky the son. Like you said, this family has tiers, unlike the Bose family and it's easy to get lost in the complex relationship between reality and facade. That is exactly where Sona and Soha are faltering now, and where they do need to depend on Dev and Ishwari more for guidance.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Sam, @Shaavi please take a bow... 👏

You gals have been on an absolute roll... And, your wonderful posts coupled with this intriguing and exciting track have just inspired me to begin an analysis, like I used to do when I joined this thread...

It will be uploaded on this thread, either today and if not, then, definitely tomorrow...

-Suyash.
Edited by Harryfan011 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
hello everyone first time in this analysis thread
i was pretty sure that sona's actions will not go well with the forum members and this is the best place to interact with other people.
actually sona reminds me of my own mother. my mom also used to make sure that i get along with my pa's family. the reason of distance between me and my grandparents was the fact that my mom was an orphan and was never respected by the family members. my mom always believed that my grandma will love me because i was her own blood but this never happened. my rich grandfather never helped my mom in my education or when me and my mom used to stay on benches before she was able to arrange a home for us. But despite all this my mom tried her level best for me to keep healthy relations with my so called family by taking me to my cousins birthday party, forcing me to make cards for them during festivals etc
i never had the courage to ask her why she used to bend so much but during my graduation ceremony my then boyfriend( now husband) questioned her and for the first time she cried in front of me and told that despite all the insults she wanted me to have a family because she didn't wanted me to live a life like her with no one to support and care( my pa actually died while i was in my mom's tummy)
this is what exactly sonakshi is trying to do now for her child to have a normal childhood with support of all family members
her intentions might be right but her actions are not
can't really say why she is not considering vicky a threat
if i remove my experience mentioned above i would not hesitate to say that she is a very big fool( although she is my fav in the show)
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Sam, I understand what you are saying and yes it is true that Dev does consider himself and Golu as an unit. But I am talking about if push comes to shove like it did during the second breakup. When Ishwari came to the farmhouse and asked him to choose either her or Sonakshi, he chose the later. Till then he didn't think he would ever have to choose between them. And that is the path the current scenario is leading to from my pov. If it comes to the extreme case that having Golu would mean losing Suhana, then I am sure that he will choose Suhana. That is not to say he wouldn't be sad to do so. But he will make that choice. And I feel that is the reason he still hasn't bowed down from his decision of throwing Vickky out yet. That is the reason he stepped back when Elena asked him that are you ready to accept Vickky. And going by this season where it is Sonakshi who is being placed in those positions, my guess is she will be the one who will be asked to choose. Between whom she considers family -- Dev, Soha and Ishwari or Golu and what he entails.

After throwing Vickky out, when Sonakshi comes to his room, he clearly tells her that nothing is more important to him than she and Soha. And clearly mentions them as the family unit. He doesn't include Ishwari or Golu in that group. And that is something that Sonakshi needs to accept, understand and support in the end.
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Posted: 8 years ago
Pheww!! Finally finished reading all posts. Thank you all again for giving insight of different valuable perspectives.

For me, last few episodes was really disappointing. I was still upset over how makers handled over possessive/protective (depending on how each viewers perceived it) track. There was so much potential to address Dev's childhood trauma and Sona actually listening to him and Dev feeling heard. Can't believe makers made everything about mother's love vs lovers love. And they decided to end it in a very romantic rain dance and puff.. DevaKshi back to normal and viewers are all happy. (BTW I am ShaRica shipper so I was happy too)

Then they introduced Soha and Vickky track, foundation of this track was layered during whole Dev's new Rang track. Now, I have new found renewed faith in makers that they will address Sona's 'emotional dismissive' behaviour. (I could be soo wrong but one can hope right?)

Sona has always been problem solver, without sitting with someone's emotions and trying to figure out why they could be feeling in certain ways, and she jumps into 'fixer mode'. Sona focuses so much on problem solving that at times she misses out on letting one express their emotions and miss crucial opportunities to connect with them on an emotional level ( i know I am exacerbating a bit).

She is doing same with Soha now. She is not getting in Soha's level and holding her 6/7 yrs old daughter's big emotions. Soha is currently experiencing big escalated emotions. She is overwhelmed and anxious and needs adult's support to label her emotions, label them and validate them. Whereas, Sona is being 'emotion dismissive' parent and trying to solve problems around her, trying to distract Soha and trying to keep her happy. Sona is thinking 'how could Soha be unhappy' ' i will solve everything'. In doing that, she is doing anything but connecting with her daughter, her daughter, who is confused with her new found emotions and its scary for her. She needs her mother and father to hold her emotions, understand why she must be feeling and be emphatic and then may be guide her in proper direction when they have gained Soha's confidence.
Can't say for Soha and Sona's attachment in last 6 yrs as its not highlighted exclusively. But I am inclined to think that if their relationship could be affected due to adversities then probably it was not healthy 'secure attachment'. I know I may be reading too much into it, but maybe Sona will realise that its not always important to have a positive outcome. Maybe she will realise that what Soha needs is her parents to understand that its difficult for her to stay away from her brother but it doesn't have to be a happy ending as long as she feels she was heard and her parents are connected to her in an emotional level. Reaching out for positive end result might not be as helpful as the journey you share with the person when they are in so much pain.

Makers always go for sloppy ending, and I will be delighted if I'm proven wrong this time.
My POV, I don't intend to hurt anyone.

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