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Posted: 8 years ago
I guess we praised Sona too much for the CVs' comfort🤣

Wow, she went ahead and did just the opposite of all things right in today's episode, and Asha's timely, relevant lecture went whizzing way over her head. WIth the track record the CVs have with her, I would be worried but for one assurance they have given us. This time, when it comes to Vicky, Dev is right and Sona is wrong. I thank them for at least giving us that tassali. That said, you never know. He could genuinely become a good father, husband, and uncle in the process of performing one, just as he fell in love with Elena in the process of getting his great revenge, and nobody would be the wiser. I won't count my chickens before they hatch.

The way I saw it, Soha desperately wanted her parents to confront her about bunking school. When the came to meet her, she had a guilty expression on her face as though she expected to be caught. Then in the car, when Dev said, "par Soha..." and Sona stopped him, Soha egged him on, curious to know what his question was. I think she is craving the kind of treatment Dev gave Golu yesterday, where he just swoops in and takes control of the situation, but Dev is following Sona's lead where Soha is concerned. After today, I kind of wish he would go rogue. He has the right idea. Moreover, Sona abandoned the important gesture of quality time with Soha for some ambiguous "kaam" -- giving her exactly the wrong idea about her parents' real priorities, and reinforcing her anger and insecurity.

Dev assured her that he would show Soha they were good parents -- and he has accomplished this once before. What everyone needs here, and what Sona is compromising, is time. Even if Vicky were genuine, they should consider the fact that their family looks so much happier outside of IN. Vicky is keeping a steady job, being an attentive father and husband, and is talking about his self-respect. If you are taking him at face value, why not entertain the possibility that getting out of IN was very healthy for him, and he is able to flourish as his own individual outside of Dev's shadow?

It all comes down to the conversation they had amongst Sona's old memories (why were they in the guest room, btw?). Sona said she wanted to give Soha *only* happy memories while Dev said he wanted to give her *lots* of happy memories. That cleared up a lot of Sona's motivation for her current behaviour -- she is trying to make everything "perfect, just perfect" for Soha because she can't stand the idea that her daughter will have unpleasant memories. So without even asking her why she is bunking school, she deduced the problem and attempted to solve it to spare Soha the emotional turmoil. She is trying to treat a deep wound with just a band-aid, not realising that it could get infected. Yes, an injection and stitches might hurt more, but they are what will ultimately heal.
Edited by Samanalyse - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Sam, wonderful post. 👏 . That song "tu mujme mujse zyada hai" is what I was remembering while reading your post. Sonakshi had once told Dev that he only comes up with short term solutions and that is exactly what she is doing now. 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Shaavi: It seems like as parents, they have taken on the opposite roles from when they were spouses, Freaky Friday style! 😆 Seven years ago, Sona was all gung-ho about threatening Mami and Vicky and making IN safe from their exploitation. Now that she sees Soha happy in this family, she dreads moving even a hair for fear that her daughters idyllic childhood will be "contaminated." Back then, Dev was worried about Ishwari's perfect family facade being ruined, and refused to hold Mami and Vicky accountable for anything. Now, on Soha's behalf, he is ready to make those tough calls that may mean short term suffering but long-term protection. When will these two ever meet in the middle, I ask you?

I think Sona also has to understand that she can afford to think only as Soha's mother where Golu is concerned, feel sympathy for another mother who doesn't know where her kid is, and worry about what would happen if the same thing happened with Soha. Dev has to think both as Soha's father and as Golu's Bigcha. As we have seen all through out S2, Dev never takes Golu's love for granted when he is angry (a tangible lesson he learned from how their marriage ended). He recognised that there was a very limited window in which to ease Golu's anger and reassure him of his love, and he exercised his haq (jo pyar deta hai) to do that. Later on, this reassurance is what is going to keep Golu from feeling totally alone when his parents start to show their true colours, and I think it was really important to establish that before he drifted too far away.
Edited by Samanalyse - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

I guess we praised Sona too much for the CVs' comfort🤣

Wow, she went ahead and did just the opposite of all things right in today's episode, and Asha's timely, relevant lecture went whizzing way over her head. WIth the track record the CVs have with her, I would be worried but for one assurance they have given us. This time, when it comes to Vicky, Dev is right and Sona is wrong. I thank them for at least giving us that tassali. That said, you never know. He could genuinely become a good father, husband, and uncle in the process of performing one, just as he fell in love with Elena in the process of getting his great revenge, and nobody would be the wiser. I won't count my chickens before they hatch.

The way I saw it, Soha desperately wanted her parents to confront her about bunking school. When the came to meet her, she had a guilty expression on her face as though she expected to be caught. Then in the car, when Dev said, "par Soha..." and Sona stopped him, Soha egged him on, curious to know what his question was. I think she is craving the kind of treatment Dev gave Golu yesterday, where he just swoops in and takes control of the situation, but Dev is following Sona's lead where Soha is concerned. After today, I kind of wish he would go rogue. He has the right idea. Moreover, Sona abandoned the important gesture of quality time with Soha for some ambiguous "kaam" -- giving her exactly the wrong idea about her parents' real priorities, and reinforcing her anger and insecurity.

Dev assured her that he would show Soha they were good parents -- and he has accomplished this once before. What everyone needs here, and what Sona is compromising, is time. Even if Vicky were genuine, they should consider the fact that their family looks so much happier outside of IN. Vicky is keeping a steady job, being an attentive father and husband, and is talking about his self-respect. If you are taking him at face value, why not entertain the possibility that getting out of IN was very healthy for him, and he is able to flourish as his own individual outside of Dev's shadow?

It all comes down to the conversation they had amongst Sona's old memories (why were they in the guest room, btw?). Sona said she wanted to give Soha *only* happy memories while Dev said he wanted to give her *lots* of happy memories. That cleared up a lot of Sona's motivation for her current behaviour -- she is trying to make everything "perfect, just perfect" for Soha because she can't stand the idea that her daughter will have unpleasant memories. So without even asking her why she is bunking school, she deduced the problem and attempted to solve it to spare Soha the emotional turmoil. She is trying to treat a deep wound with just a band-aid, not realising that it could get infected. Yes, an injection and stitches might hurt more, but they are what will ultimately heal.


This is beautiful! 👏
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Posted: 8 years ago
Sonakshi = Dev of season 1 in EVERY way

Looking for temporary happiness and solutions for her daughter..Dev did by hiding truth from her of her pregnancy and infertility to keep her happy & safe..Sonakshi fixing the situation by doing everything possible to get Vicky home for fresh start to get situation under control bring Soha closer to her parents again..Right from talking to Dev to Vicky Elena to Ishwari

No offense My POV




Edited by sjain - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

When will these two ever meet in the middle, I ask you?



Sam, One of the things that Sonakshi has to start accepting is the fact that she is not a miss know it all. That she has made mistakes and can mistakes. That not all her decisions are good or right for the family. That she doesn't know everything and that Dev does know a lot of things. Only when Sonakshi acknowledges these traits about herself, starts listening instead of just hearing is when they can meet in the middle.

That is one of the reasons why I constantly mentions about Sonakshi and her image of perfection. Just like Ishwari who molded Dev as her reflection in a way, Bijoy has done the same with Sonakshi. For her that public image of how she is seen has become so important that she fails to realize that more than being perfect to the world, she needs to be perfect for "her family". That Dev and Soha are more important than maamaji, maamiji or even Ishwari up to certain extent. They form the second circle of the family unit. If ok then Dev and Sonakshi can have Ishwari in their inner circle, but no way maamaji or maamiji are part of that inner circle. And Sonakshi needs to understand that.

And for that she needs to make a mistake leading to harming Dev or Soha or both and one where she cannot hold anybody else but herself responsible. Only then will she stop running down the path she is going and retrospect her actions.

On a side note, I feel that to each other Dev and Sonakshi are like Elizabeth and Darcy. But when they are considered with the family, they are like Jane and Bingley, who constantly give importance to others and don't give much time for their own emotions or needs. 😃
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Shaavi: I really hope that that is where all of this is leading, ie, Sona accepting that she can't know it all. Sona's behaviour in today's episode makes sense only if they are building up to that self-realisation. Vicky's guilt and Asha's words about everyone having flaws and having to depend on your spouse do give some hopeful foreshadowing, and they have been pretty consistent in giving Sona these realisations over the course of S2, from her foundation of realising that Bijoy wasn't perfect, to admitting that she hadn't trusted Dev or their love during Khatri, to the rain proposal after the Nisha fiasco. I think we have finally come to the point where she accepts Dev as a co-parent in the true sense, and not just in name (after all our predictions, she became Suhana Dixit so casually! 🤣).

The truth is, if Soha has to grow up in IN, she needs to develop a thicker skin, something that her mother really struggled with. Very much like Bijoy, Sona is trying to block any unpleasantness out of Soha's life, something that is impossible in a family like this one and which makes her unprepared for harsh realities when they do hit her. Instead, she needs the tools to be able to deal with confusing emotional situations like the ones she finds herself in now, and the confidence of knowing that no matter how many people are around, she can always reach out for her parents and they will be there. This is exactly what Dev has given Golu -- whether he is at the house or not, Golu always knew that he could reach out to Bigcha for support and attention.

Hopefully by the culmination of this arc, we get that balance in Devakshi as parents.

I think you give Lizzie and Darcy more credit for drawing boundaries than I do. 😉 I still don't see Dev and Sona as Jane and Bingley because they aren't generally naive -- just overly generous when it comes to their kin.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

@Shaavi: I really hope that that is where all of this is leading, ie, Sona accepting that she can't know it all. Sona's behaviour in today's episode makes sense only if they are building up to that self-realisation. Vicky's guilt and Asha's words about everyone having flaws and having to depend on your spouse do give some hopeful foreshadowing, and they have been pretty consistent in giving Sona these realisations over the course of S2, from her foundation of realising that Bijoy wasn't perfect, to admitting that she hadn't trusted Dev or their love during Khatri, to the rain proposal after the Nisha fiasco. I think we have finally come to the point where she accepts Dev as a co-parent in the true sense, and not just in name (after all our predictions, she became Suhana Dixit so casually! 🤣).

The truth is, if Soha has to grow up in IN, she needs to develop a thicker skin, something that her mother really struggled with. Very much like Bijoy, Sona is trying to block any unpleasantness out of Soha's life, something that is impossible in a family like this one and which makes her unprepared for harsh realities when they do hit her. Instead, she needs the tools to be able to deal with confusing emotional situations like the ones she finds herself in now, and the confidence of knowing that no matter how many people are around, she can always reach out for her parents and they will be there. This is exactly what Dev has given Golu -- whether he is at the house or not, Golu always knew that he could reach out to Bigcha for support and attention.

Hopefully by the culmination of this arc, we get that balance in Devakshi as parents.

I think you give Lizzie and Darcy more credit for drawing boundaries than I do. 😉 I still don't see Dev and Sona as Jane and Bingley because they aren't generally naive -- just overly generous when it comes to their kin.


Sam, Why was Ishwari so convinced that Sonakshi was the wrong choice for Dev and that she knew what was right for him. She had based that on her understanding of him as she had seen all those years. But she had seen/known only that side of him that he chose to reveal. What he chose to hide, she couldn't figure it out. That was the reason why Dev and Sonakshi could have that courtship period away from everyone. The thing is both Ishwari and Sonakshi have seen only that side of him that they saw. Neither of them saw the complete person, Dev Dixit. He on his side, maintained these 2 personas without them overlapping each other so to speak. Ishwari didn't really know much about Dev Dixit, while Sonakshi knows very little about Dev. Yet these two believe/believed they they know Dev. With Dev falling in love to all that has led has finally made Ishwari open her eyes and say that she doesn't really know him all that well.

But since Sonakshi always spoke with such authority of knowing him and Dev too behaving that way, Ishwari thinks that Sonakshi knows everything about him. And that is what she kept repeating till now. But with current track she is realizing that Sonakshi might not know everything about him as she had thought. But is still coming to terms with that fact. Since she knows she has made several mistakes in the past of trying to change Sonakshi she is trying not to rock the boat and don't want to do anything that might uupset Sonakshi.

Sonakshi on the other hand has gained her confidence as the person who is eligible to make executive decisions by the constant "yes you are right" from Ishwari and Dev. She lost that during Dev taking theft blame track when Asha retracted that privilege which was earlier given to Sonakshi. With Ishwari, Dev and the sisters attributing the reunion to her, maami saying that she was wrong and Sonakshi was right, she is kind of swept off her feet so to speak. This is the utopia that she had always wanted. The one where she was acknowledged as the one who is always right and validated at every step.

In season 1 during Natasha track, there was one episode when Sonakshi comes to IN, Vickky purposely collides with her resulting in her bag falling down and all her things spreading out. At that time Vickky says that she was their employee and not vice versa. So she shouldn't expect him to help her get her things together. She asks him to spell the word "respect" which he misspells. This is followed by Dev coming there and helping her to put her things together.

In today's episode, Dev asked Sonakshi if she was ready to take Vickky's responsibility and guarantee that he wouldn't do any further harm to the family. Going by how CVs use the parallels and also how they make these conversations come true, there is a possibility that Sonakshi might hire him in her company once he is back at IN. Maybe even against Dev's advise. In the episode where she moves to the same office building, she builds a wall against regulations. She admits that she didn't read the small print. Probably that is what will happen. Just like Dev signed prenup without knowing, Sonakshi might end up signing something that Vickky gives. There was also one episode where Dev had told Vickky that if the later can get rid of Sonakshi from the office space, he would give his entire company to him. And CVs haven't usually added any such dialogues without making them come true, in their own way.

In this season that is one of the things that I am predominantly seeing, the dissection of Sonakshi and Bose family. In season 1, it was Dev and Dixit family. With each track giving new information to Sonakshi and making her realize that she is flawed and imperfect. It will take time, but from the way the story is going, I feel it is leading to this. As you said she very much like Bijoy is trying to block anything negative in Suhan's life. And it is no coincidence that they are bringing this flaw to light at this time. I am referring to Bijoy's attitude just before and after the first break up. The moment Ishwari said that she was not that happy with the intended relationship, he advised Sonakshi against it. He didn't want her to have any challenges in her life. Also when Sonakshi came back from hospital and told him that Dev had broken up with her, instead of acknowledging her pain, he tried to wipe it clean and told her to just forget it. He wanted to just remove the whole of Dev or his influence on her life in any way possible. And Sonakshi is trying to do the same. Remove anything that even remotely looks like Soha feels sad, block it and paint a rosy picture on that.

The current banner has intrigued me for a while and for me that is where the story is leading. In that picture Suhana is safely encircled by Ishwari and Sonakshi. But dev is behind Ishwari and not touching anyone. Also Sonakshi and Ishwari are supporting each other with one hand, while with the other they are holding onto Suhana. And for me this speaks volumes. For Ishwari and Sonakshi to support each other Sonakshi needs to admit that she is flawed and that she is not a miss know it all. Dev standing behind is like a protector of the family and not really dependent on anyone anymore. That he is now independent of that guilt that was consuming him. he is now relying on his judgement independent of it being validated by either of the ladies. While Suhana who used to behave like adult will go back to being a child who is guided by Ishwari and Sonakshi.
Edited by Shaavi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
@sam and @ shaavi
And all the other viewed!

How I wish I could be as objective as you all in analysing each of the heartbreaking episodes these days. I think for my better mental health I am skipping the next few episodes - at least this track is over one way or the other - this is no longer a love story and turning into a family drama

On the other hand I will personally beat up the makers if they turn sona into a typical SP type Bahu who is self sacrificing and shedding copious tears all the time and ever willing to give the evil underdog yet another chance.

Sorry for my rant but just wanted to get it off my chest,
Edited by asha2012 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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You still have a doubt in which way Sona's Charecter is being moulded by CVs? Yes. Your fear is right. It is going just the typical TV heroine way. Whatever little hopes I have reg. her realisation in Vikky issue I completely lost it. Finally I tuned my mind towards the fact that she won't let Dev deal with Vikky in his own way. The way she is asking Iswari to persuade Dev to personally visit Vikky and convince him to return home made me sad and heartbroken for Dev.


Throughout Season 1 Dev had to dance to Iswari's tunes. Now it looks like he has to bend before his daughter and Ofcourse his wife who is hell bent on bringing Vikky back . Dev clearly said asked when did Vikky really take care of his parents? Still she fails to see reason and sense in his words.

Surprisingly she is not finding any other solution to win Soha back except getting back Vikky and family to Iswari Nivas. Dev is confident when he said we will prove we are good parents. Isn't it advisable to chalk out a plan to appease Soha ? Children are like clay that can be given any shape.They won't keep bad feelings at heart for a long time.So may be a trip abroad,or a visit to friends place ...anything they can try. First and foremost they have to spend time with her and make her realise she is their life support system.

Coming episodes will certainly break me down but can't stayaway... Shaheer won't let me do so.

Sorry if my post offended any one.

Lakshmi

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