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Posted: 8 years ago
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Why did Dev and Sona have a conversation about Sonakshi's career? I mean I know Dev is suffocating her and asking her to shift her work place to their house so he can rest in peace that she is safe (😆) but I don't think he stopped her at any point from working? Dev in fact has always encouraged her to pursue her dreams even when she lost interest post marriage. He even told her in the first scene that he wants her to become a big name in the business field. Then why did it become a conversation about Sonakshi having a career of her own and not giving up everything cos her husband said so? If that was not weird enough, Dev even went ahead and questioned her about her responsibility towards Soha out of no where in the same scene just so the makers could plug in a woman empowerment message 😕 What is this track about? Dev's paranoia and over protective behavior I assume but why did we jump to a lecture on women making a name for themselves? Does every scene have to advocate a social image? 😆 Trust me am not ranting or bashing. Am just trying to understand their random conversation here. I really wish the makers don't mix up issues where on one hand we are seeing Dev go crazy and then on the other hand impart social messages about women being independent. Cos Dev's behavior has nothing to do with chauvinism and everything to do with his abandonment issues. Please give them proper dialogues which have a context 😕

P. S. You don't have to work outside or have a career to be a role model for your kids. It's upto the women to make a choice at the end of the day and kids can look up to their parents irrespective of their career choices. A house wife can be as much of a role model as a businesswoman and an IAS officer. I don't know if the makers intended to generalize but I'd have preferred them laying more emphasise on Sona making her own choice and Dev not acting like a puppet master and dictating how she runs her business instead of making it into a woman empowerment issue and Sona having to work for Soha to look up to her. But that's just my opinion.
P. S. S. Shaheer and Erica looked so good in every frame today. Unfortunately they were only fighting 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I agree!
They could not direct it well .. No link at all !
Even home makers are role models for their kids .. It's not even a point
Some choose to work & some choose to stay at home .. It's all about personal choices!

And also I feel there has to be a balance in family life & work .. Dev is going crazy here & sona is attending her meetings !
Ridiculous 😆
She can skip a meeting to talk to her husband about his crazy behaviour .. And if something is wrong with him
She has skipped many many meetings for nikki riya etc .. Can surely take out some time to talk to her husband ..



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Posted: 8 years ago
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@NN07- The problem is not with what Sona or Dev said. It was a perfectly valid argument cos in a country like India, most seem to assume it is the sole duty of the mother to take care of the child while it's essentially both the parent's responsibility. But it made no sense in the context of the track. Dev has never stopped Sona from working. He has always taken pride in her career and achievements. Giving him lectures on women empowerment is not gonna cut it. The writers are going over board with the crazy Dev and practical independent Sona track IMO. Cos Dev in his paranoia is being blind to Sona's emotions and Sona is just not noticing that he is being abnormal. Talk to him, take him to a psychiatrist, fight, explain. Neither of them are making an effort yet they are ready to go out of the way for the rest of the family 😕
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I agree that conversation was toatally random and did not fit in, he never said her to give up working but unfortunately seemed like makers wanted to give out a message on woman empowerment but failed to do so at least in my opinion, probably added just so that they can add one more attribute to Dev's over possessiveness and add drama.

As far giving out Social message unfortunately for me whenever the makers have tried to take up any of the social issues they have failed to do justice to it. Be it the infertility track where instead of showing how a husband supports his wife they showed how a mother in law forces them for a child. They never showed the struggles of Sonakshi as a single mother. Interrelated the live in and Ishwari re working track where as it should have been dealt separately.

I though just have one doubt, are the makers undermining the role of homemakers, do you set an example for your children only by working. Asha is a classic example wherein she is a homemaker as well as a successful author today. Why do they have to demean one just to give out a social message.

Apologies for the long rant, just my POV, no offence.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sp12

I agree that conversation was toatally random and did not fit in, he never said her to give up working but unfortunately seemed like makers wanted to give out a message on woman empowerment but failed to do so at least in my opinion, probably added just so that they can add one more attribute to Dev's over possessiveness and add drama.

As far giving out Social message unfortunately for me whenever the makers have tried to take up any of the social issues they have failed to do justice to it. Be it the infertility track where instead of showing how a husband supports his wife they showed how a mother in law forces them for a child. They never showed the struggles of Sonakshi as a single mother. Interrelated the live in and Ishwari re working track where as it should have been dealt separately.

I though just have one doubt, are the makers undermining the role of homemakers, do you set an example for your children only by working. Asha is a classic example wherein she is a homemaker as well as a successful author today. Why do they have to demean one just to give out a social message.

Apologies for the long rant, just my POV, no offence.


Haha. This show sucks at imparting social messages anyway. Made a mockery out of everything from infertility to feminism to divorce 😆 I really wish the makers stop with this social Issie angle right away and deal with this track the way it's meant to be. That is making them talk and take Dev for counseling if required.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I think cvs just want to ensure that viewers dont get confused that dev has any regressive thoughts that women should stay at home. They just want to clear it for viewers...

Dev's "soha responsibility " is just an excuse to keep sonakshi at home. He knows very well that sona is very responsible.
Not that sona asked dev " is soha only my responsibility?" .. now bells will start ringing and he would come back andsay.. "sona you are brilliant.. yes soha is my responsibility too.. so i am shifting my office to home as well.. so that we both can be available... but u going out and risking your life to make a career is out of question..lets do whatever we want at home... 😎 🤣

Sona phas gayi yaar. Kuch bhi bolo dev logic baat karega.. hmm
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Copying from other thread n some additions -
I really liked the episode today...getting to know more about Dev's paranoia and him trying to justify everything using Soha. Dev also knows Sona is not liking it but bcoz of her mistake of not telling him d truth, he is not giving her weightage to her pov.

After a very long time...happy to see Sona back to being sensible n sensitive and all her counter arguements were right on point 👏 n like Dev she also took Soha's example to make him understand. Lot of their arguements are very typical of working women homes in India..n really enjoyed all their talks n fights today.

She wants to do her work the best she can so Soha wud look upto her. Fair enough. And she believes her work will suffer if she completely works from home. Her work...n so it shud be her decision coz only she knows abt her work. Do not confuse Sona's aversion of working from home is like insulting someone who is a homemaker. She just wants to do her work her way, sometgshe has done for last 7yrs n its been successful too.

Both Sona n Dev are able to notice that something not correct with the other's pov and they did try to talk about it. But its just d beginning n this will only be resolved thru more n more talks n confrontations.

Regd Sona not able to see Dev's weird behavior..she is indeed noticing it n kinda understand where its coming from but then its too early to ring alarm bells. Also at times Dev again becomes so considerate n his normal self..that his weird obsession takes a back seat.



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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: dlavanya

I think cvs just want to ensure that viewers dont get confused that dev has any regressive thoughts that women should stay at home. They just want to clear it for viewers...

Dev's "soha responsibility " is just an excuse to keep sonakshi at home. He knows very well that sona is very responsible.
Not that sona asked dev " is soha only my responsibility?" .. now bells will start ringing and he would come back andsay.. "sona you are brilliant.. yes soha is my responsibility too.. so i am shifting my office to home as well.. so that we both can be available... but u going out and risking your life to make a career is out of question..lets do whatever we want at home... 😎 🤣

Sona phas gayi yaar. Kuch bhi bolo dev logic baat karega.. hmm


Lol I actually think it's the maker's penchant to introduce social issues and lectures in every track so they can call it a progressive and socially relevant show even if the conversation makes no sense in the context of the track 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: randommusings

Copying from other thread n some additions -

I really liked the episode today...getting to know more about Dev's paranoia and him trying to justify everything using Soha. Dev also knows Sona is not liking it but bcoz of her mistake of not telling him d truth, he is not giving her weightage to her pov.

After a very long time...happy to see Sona back to being sensible n sensitive and all her counter arguements were right on point 👏 n like Dev she also took Soha's example to make him understand. Lot of their arguements are very typical of working women homes in India..n really enjoyed all their talks n fights today.

She wants to do her work the best she can so Soha wud look upto her. Fair enough. And she believes her work will suffer if she completely works from home. Her work...n so it shud be her decision coz only she knows abt her work. Do not confuse Sona's aversion of working from home is like insulting someone who is a homemaker. She just wants to do her work her way, sometgshe has done for last 7yrs n its been successful too.

Both Sona n Dev are able to notice that something not correct with the other's pov and they did try to talk about it. But its just d beginning n this will only be resolved thru more n more talks n confrontations.

Regd Sona not able to see Dev's weird behavior..she is indeed noticing it n kinda understand where its coming from but then its too early to ring alarm bells. Also at times Dev again becomes so considerate n his normal self..that his weird obsession takes a back seat.




I get your POV here but I have a few points to make-

1. Dev never had a problem with Sona making a name for herself. In fact post marriage when she got involved in family issues, he told her to chuck it and go to work. Dev may have a lot of flaws but one thing I'd always give him is the fact that he is very proud of Sona's achievements. So to make this argument about Sona giving up her career for Dev is both random and ridiculous. Sona actually told Dev ' what if Soha questions me in the future? Should I tell her I gave up everything because your father said so? ' and then after a while when Sona says she will always work, Dev randomly questioned her about her responsibility towards Soha. Which just doesn't make sense. Cos as far as I know, Dev explicitly mentioned that he is very proud of her professional achievements even in the first scene and even when Soha was sick and he was angry, he only told her to work from home. So the issue is about Dev's paranoia and his obsessive need to control the way she chooses to run her office just so he can make sure she is safe. How and why did that become about Sona having a career of her own? Cos as far as I can see, both are completely different issues.

2. Sona said she wants to work cos she wants to be role model to Soha. That is a generalization on the writers part IMO cos a house wife can be an amazing role model too. It boils down to individual choice at the end of the day and what Sona should have said is that she wants to work and do it her way cos that's her choice and that's what she has been doing all these years. It's as simple as that.

3. Sona is shown incredibly patient with everyone else. She went so many times to Nikki and Lakshya's house, understood their POV, could figure out Lakshya must have eaten Ishwari's lunch and shared it with Nikki based on one missed call on the land-line yet she can't be a lil more patient and perceptive with Dev? IMO the writers are going overboard showing both in the extreme. Extreme craze and extreme lack of emotions 😆

4. I genuinely think the writers randomly fit in social issues and lectures just for the sake of it even if it makes no sense in the context of the track. What Dev needs is therapy not lectures of women empowerment. But am assuming we will get to that only after these two drive us up the wall with their behavior to the point where we might need therapy 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Confusing track... While I support Sonakshi's stance to be a working mom.. she doesn't get it that Dev is NOT obligated to share parenting responsibilities as Sona didn't give him that right.. Legally, she is Suhana Bose whose father's name doesn't exist in her birth certificate..Hope someone shows her the Mirror and pulls her out of denial world...

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