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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: deepsel


Suyash, this is such a brilliant piece of writing my brother 👏 I simply couldn't logout without appreciating the sheer beauty of its content and the way you have penned them and it surely deserve a separate post in main forum for others to savor ...ofcourse decision is yours😳 !! Do continue to post your thoughts 😊


Sam, Shaavi, Mallika and Lakshmi, some stupendous discussions to and forth ⭐️


A special shoutout to Chits for your post on page 32 ❤️ Agree 100%, we can't undermine Sona's magnanimity as superiority complex 👍🏼


Thank you so much for your kind views... Just read your post (Ultimatums- A milestone for good) in the main forums and would also request you to link it here for others to read and enjoy..

Will definitely think about your suggestion..
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: ltelidevara


If we want that dev and sona shoud come together and they relation shoud get survive then dev shoud stand now. It will give her confidence that he is changed and he can take a stand infront of his mother and it will give her strength to go aginest her father for her happiness. This is very much important form future point of view. So i want dev shoud act as a man. Not as a son of ishu mata. I realy hope this gudgav vist will help dev to think. Lets hope this happens.

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Sorry to disagree with your view. Right now Sonakshi is running away from truth and Dev. She readily agreed to wipe away his thoughts and promised her father so. By now Dev revealed his feelings before her umpteen times and Sonakshi is smart enough to know his inclination. Just recently he said if I can control your mind break up wouldn't have happened. What more could he do when every time Sonakshi snubs him and shows her reluctance!

Iswari gave him option to reunite with Sonakshi but Dev told her it won't be possible. Why did he do so? He understood Sona would never let that happen. Hence he doesn't want to persuade her to rekindle her feelings and give another chance to their relationship. He cares for her and realises his part in their separation. Still in the pre cap we see him raising the topic before Sonakshi and I am sure she would advise him to move on.After all the word given to her father counts for her.

Dev already is man enough to accept his mistakes and say sorry. He can be her sun Ofcourse for that Sonakshi should first gain enough courage to let him be. Iswari or no Iswari Dev will shine like a sun just like she dreamt of had she shown slightest inclination toward giving a second chance to their relationship.

Yes Soha will suffer more than anyone else like I said in my previous post But her parents are ill fated. Despite loving each other hopelessly they can not live a happy life together . Soha's fate also looks bad as she has to grow up in such situation where she may have to see her parents drift apart in different ways.

I am sure if Bijoy asks Sonakshi to prove her point that she is able to wipe off Dev and his thoughts by marrying Jatin,she will readily agree to do so.

Now the situation demands both to stand up for their togetherness. Dev can do it by all means but Sonakshi may not. So I feel Dev's honesty and commitment in love towards her are still intact . Given a chance he will grab the opportunity to be with Sonakshi till his last breath. Let Sonakshi admit it for a change...


Lakshmi


I am understanding what you are trying to say but only confessing his feeling and say sorry is not going to give her the confidence. You know like dev still loves and respects ishu in the same way sona also. I understand that she shod stand out for her feelings but the problem is she cannot ignore the fact that dev and her relationship is responsible for her struggle from past 7 years. Mami and red 's doing in the separation and bose house is not out so how can she say to her family any thing related to her feelings. I know she is running away but if we want that she shod consider her feelings then dev shod stand out for his love for without considering what will be the output. He shod act honest about with his feelings and shod consider the consequences of his yes on the any girl who is coming in the picture. This is my view.If he relay understands sona then he shod make the efforts to build the trust in her for him this will happen when he will stand for him and for soha.
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Posted: 8 years ago
A lot is spoken about Dev's decision versus what Sona promised Bijoy

One difference I would like to highlight is what Sona promised or assured Bijoy is that the current dynamics wont change.. that nothing will topple the cart. So in that sense, Dev and Sona get time to understand each other, rebuild the trust and then decide to take the next step when both are ready to confront their parents and for themselves. In that sense, Soha doesn't stand to gain her parents in a relationship but doesn't stand a chance to lose them either.

But what Ishwari is asking of Dev or Sona is "It's my way or the highway". Mein teri maa nahi rahoongi is similar to what she threatened Dev preleap if he drowned himself in sorrow.
Ishwari is trying to get the cart before the horse, I am worried how the Dev Sona dynamics will get affected by this... Soha will only suffer in this situation. It would end up as choosing one parent over other.

Will we continue to see a Dev completely in Ishwari's shadow? Won't he ever stand up for himself, his daughter, his love?
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: ashakd





Dont worry I went eekks too, but I thought that was orange and not pink. The cleavage yes,...was there to be peeped...if they dont care to show it then why should we feel shy to oogle at it🤪



😃 One likes to ogle only if it is liked. The same design is worn by many stars and yet looks so cool. Prabhas, for instance. 😊 It's the way you need to carry out an outfit. That's truly an art. Else...



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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Harryfan011


@Drcs I feel that my previous post might have sounded a little bit too harsh or rude... And, if anyone feels that I am discouraging anyone from openly expressing their views... Then, I sincerely apologise for my words... It was not definitely the intention...

This thread has been like a haven for me.. A place where I was welcomed and encouraged to express my own views without any kind of inhibitions..

So, I will never wish to change the positive environment of this thread which provides everyone with a sense of comfort and reassurance that they can open their true selves...

I definitely agree with your views that everyone has been product of different circumstances and exceptions... Hence, their way of looking into a particular event or perceiving a particular event might be completely different from mine and consequently, we might interpret the same event in different ways...

I have always welcomed them and this is why, I am such a frequent visitor to this thread since I am able to read and see the different perspectives which might or might not be similar to my own views..

Most of the opinions has just provided me with more material to ponder on... It has been an absolute delight for me to see how people life experiences shape up their own thought process and beliefs which end up providing me with an opportunity to discover and explore the hidden shades of each character or event...

But, sometimes, I feel lost in the sea of all the posts and hence, writes the above kind of posts to express my discontent, not for the different views that has been expressed but for my utter lack of understanding to find relevant substance in their posts...

I am extremely sorry if I have hurt anyone's sentiments... And, I hope that you will forgive me for my indiscretion..

I feel that my previous post has failed to convey this message correctly... And, I hope that I clarified doubts of both you and anyone else who had similar questions... Otherwise, let's put my above post in the category of "let's agree to disagree" and move on...

-Suyash.


Dear Suyash...myriad of feelings...Now I am unable to express myself...you don't have to apologize my dear...sometimes how much ever I hide it, the TEACHER in me comes out inadvertently in such circumstances...being in the academia for more than a decade I have observed how people withdrew into their shell even at a constructive criticism...I am more than humbled to read your above post...only few people like you, are blessed with articulation skills...so sometimes what happens with many, what they want to convey may not be transmitted in the manner in which they want it to be conveyed due to some barriers...but I always appreciate the effort and the feeling behind the effort rather than the outcome...God bless you for your maturity which is quite uncommon nowadays...stay blessed and pl entertain us with your thought provoking write-ups

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Posted: 8 years ago

Lakshmi: Sorry to disagree with your view. Right now Sonakshi is running away from truth and Dev. She readily agreed to wipe away his thoughts and promised her father so. By now Dev revealed his feelings before her umpteen times and Sonakshi is smart enough to know his inclination. Just recently he said if I can control your mind break up wouldn't have happened. What more could he do when every time Sonakshi snubs him and shows her reluctance!

Agreed he has been very transparent with her...but what next? He has taken a 360 degree turn after the Khatri incident...he is whining in quilt which is unwarranted...dynamics of IN hasn't changed nor the people there...to a greater extent Dev also the same when it comes to his mom...what's new there after 7years which should propel sonakshi to accept him?

Lakshmi: Iswari gave him option to reunite with Sonakshi but Dev told her it won't be possible. Why did he do so? He understood Sona would never let that happen. Hence he doesn't want to persuade her to rekindle her feelings and give another chance to their relationship. He cares for her and realises his part in their separation. Still in the pre cap we see him raising the topic before Sonakshi and I am sure she would advise him to move on. After all the word given to her father counts for her.


Dev should take a reality check on why Sona would never let that happen...even today she is dreamy-eyed in his presence...so what is deterring her? A self-introspection is highly warranted...I hate to reiterate it again I don't blame Dev for this...if anyone thinks he should discard his mother for Sona or stand by her side and go against his mom...the way Dev Dixit's character is portrayed he can never do that...if he does then he will be no longer the Dev we all know...the corrective action is required from Ishwari only

Lakshmi: Dev already is man enough to accept his mistakes and say sorry. He can be her sun Ofcourse for that Sonakshi should first gain enough courage to let him be. Iswari or no Iswari Dev will shine like a sun just like she dreamt of had she shown slightest inclination towards giving a second chance to their relationship.

Agreed Lakshmi, but give me one instance where Sona is reassured that whatever happened will not be repeated...we always tell this to our children...say sorry for your mistakes only if you will not repeat it, if you are going to repeat the same mistake don't apologise... isn't this rule applicable to dev also? umpteenth time he makes mistakes and comes back with a puppy face...how long this will continue???

Lakshmi: Yes Soha will suffer more than anyone else like I said in my previous post But her parents are ill fated. Despite loving each other hopelessly they can not live a happy life together . Soha's fate also looks bad as she has to grow up in such situation where she may have to see her parents drift apart in different ways. I am sure if Bijoy asks Sonakshi to prove her point that she is able to wipe off Dev and his thoughts by marrying Jatin,she will readily agree to do so. Now the situation demands both to stand up for their togetherness. Dev can do it by all means but Sonakshi may not. So I feel Dev's honesty and commitment in love towards her are still intact . Given a chance he will grab the opportunity to be with Sonakshi till his last breath. Let Sonakshi admit it for a change...

(in bold) I feel it has nothing to do with commitment and honesty...a relationship will not survive simply due to love, honesty...the building bloc is trust and supporting each other in difficulties...in that department both Dev-sona has to go a long way...in the current scenario if they unite, sonakshi will be at the receiving end again and the history will repeat and casualities will be not only on Devakshi but on Soha also

For peaceful co-existence I don't expect Devakshi to change but the change should come from their respective parents...will it happen? Lets wait and watch

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: dlavanya


Also bijoy only asked her to promise and tell the truth of their relationship and he did not ask her yo promise there will be no chance in future.


@Lavanya, I think so too.. I could be wrong and may have heard what I wanted to hear... I thought Bijoy asked Sona to promise she isnt thinking about Dev... I dont know if that means she isnt "allowed" to think in future

PS: I still feel both Bijoy & Ishwari cornered Sona & Dev yesterday.
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Posted: 8 years ago

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@Lavanya, I think so too.. I could be wrong and may have heard what I wanted to hear... I thought Bijoy asked Sona to promise she isnt thinking about Dev... I dont know if that means she isnt "allowed" to think in future

PS: I still feel both Bijoy & Ishwari cornered Sona & Dev yesterday.


If I say what ever you are saying is true for a minit. But there way was wrong Its not always" my way or High way". For Ishu I am always doubtful. This is my View.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Lakshmi: Sorry to disagree with your view. Right now Sonakshi is running away from truth and Dev. She readily agreed to wipe away his thoughts and promised her father so. By now Dev revealed his feelings before her umpteen times and Sonakshi is smart enough to know his inclination. Just recently he said if I can control your mind break up wouldn't have happened. What more could he do when every time Sonakshi snubs him and shows her reluctance!

Agreed he has been very transparent with her...but what next? He has taken a 360 degree turn after the Khatri incident...he is whining in quilt which is unwarranted...dynamics of IN hasn't changed nor the people there...to a greater extent Dev also the same when it comes to his mom...what's new there after 7years which should propel sonakshi to accept him?

@ Chitra

What Dev felt after the Khatri incident in no way determines the way his relationship with Sona be . He may feel for his mother and regret his behaviour towards her . How can it effect Sonakshi who herself admitted her undaunted reverence for Iswari?

@ Chitra To me Dev changed for certain. He did not readily oblige when Iswari told him her demands. He is thinking. People in IN did not change. So what? Now Dev knows what went wrong in the past. He ascertained before RR that it is his house and Asha is his guest. I found him just right. If he takes a decision to remarry it won't be totally for Iswari, It is also for his sake.


Lakshmi: Iswari gave him option to reunite with Sonakshi but Dev told her it won't be possible. Why did he do so? He understood Sona would never let that happen. Hence he doesn't want to persuade her to rekindle her feelings and give another chance to their relationship. He cares for her and realises his part in their separation. Still in the pre cap we see him raising the topic before Sonakshi and I am sure she would advise him to move on. After all the word given to her father counts for her.




Dev should take a reality check on why Sona would never let that happen...even today she is dreamy-eyed in his presence...so what is deterring her? A self-introspection is highly warranted...I hate to reiterate it again I don't blame Dev for this...if anyone thinks he should discard his mother for Sona or stand by her side and go against his mom...the way Dev Dixit's character is portrayed he can never do that...if he does then he will be no longer the Dev we all know...the corrective action is required from Ishwari only

@ Chitra Dev need not do a reality check. He respects Sona's decision. He believes he is the reason for her reluctance. At the same time he may try to analyse the propriety of Iswari's demand and then take a decision.

Sonakshi should introspect where her happiness lies. Then she can discuss openly with Dev the hurdles and the ways to overcome them to make their marriage a success. Dev is always receptive to her ideas.

Lakshmi: Dev already is man enough to accept his mistakes and say sorry. He can be her sun Ofcourse for that Sonakshi should first gain enough courage to let him be. Iswari or no Iswari Dev will shine like a sun just like she dreamt of had she shown slightest inclination towards giving a second chance to their relationship.

Agreed Lakshmi, but give me one instance where Sona is reassured that whatever happened will not be repeated...we always tell this to our children...say sorry for your mistakes only if you will not repeat it, if you are going to repeat the same mistake don't apologise... isn't this rule applicable to dev also? umpteenth time he makes mistakes and comes back with a puppy face...how long this will continue???

@Chitra well Both of them crossed the stage of verbal reassurances.It is not only Dev who should not repeat his mistakes. Sonakshi has equal share in their separation. I think she said it once. I won't target only Dev for the break up. You and me differ here. I blame Bijoy Bose also as he like Iswari drove them towards separation. So both of them should try their bit to sustain their relationship if they have inclination to do so.

Lakshmi: Yes Soha will suffer more than anyone else like I said in my previous post But her parents are ill fated. Despite loving each other hopelessly they can not live a happy life together . Soha's fate also looks bad as she has to grow up in such situation where she may have to see her parents drift apart in different ways. I am sure if Bijoy asks Sonakshi to prove her point that she is able to wipe off Dev and his thoughts by marrying Jatin,she will readily agree to do so. Now the situation demands both to stand up for their togetherness. Dev can do it by all means but Sonakshi may not. So I feel Dev's honesty and commitment in love towards her are still intact . Given a chance he will grab the opportunity to be with Sonakshi till his last breath. Let Sonakshi admit it for a change...

(in bold) I feel it has nothing to do with commitment and honesty...a relationship will not survive simply due to love, honesty...the building bloc is trust and supporting each other in difficulties...in that department both Dev-sona has to go a long way...in the current scenario if they unite, sonakshi will be at the receiving end again and the history will repeat and casualities will be not only on Devakshi but on Soha also

For peaceful co-existence I don't expect Devakshi to change but the change should come from their respective parents...will it happen? Lets wait and watch

@ Chitra the bond exists between them So they are the ones who will make it or break it. Others will just contribute either in cementing their relationship or in breaking their relationship. Dev and Sona are the main players who has to take charge . They have to change for better. If you remember Dev instantly became ready to live separately with Sona and Soha but Sona declined his offer. I am sure Dev will do the needful once Sonakshi approves to be with him. I don't think their parents need to change. RR or GKB need to change. No. Dev and Sonakshi should change . If they do there are many ways to make their relationship work.
Dev definitely changed according to me. Sonakshi should realise the effort they have to put up to see Soha happy,to give Soha a normal childhood like any other kid who gets both her parents to live with.

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Posted: 8 years ago

Thanks for all these discussions everyone... I wanted to write a bit about Dev & Sona and their predicament.

Both of them are being incredibly honest with themselves and each other. Dev has confessed his love and Sona has not refused it either. What she refused is his suggestion to get back together. She has not said she loves him, but she has not said she does not love him either. All she said is they are both very extreme in their love and hatred. Dev also agrees that as much as he loves her and she completes him, right now Soha is their priority.

Dev has not said anything conclusive to Ishwari except that Dev & Sona cannot be together anymore. All Sona told Bijoy is she has no feelings of getting back together with Dev. This can change and nothing that was said yesterday makes me think it cannot.

Their respective parents heavily blackmailed them both and I am eager to see them amputate their minds from their parents'.

PS: No comments on the precap...

PPS: The sufiyana lover in me is brutally injured

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