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Posted: 8 years ago
I feel that, in the last few pages, we are losing the plot... Instead of analysing the actions or events, we are passing judgements on how a particular character should act or justifying one over another...
This thread is not about who is more right or better, Sonakshi or Dev (or for that matter, Ishwari or Bijoy)...

Yes, we can predict how a character might act depending on our own interpretation of their history..

But, I guess, it is high time that we should stop discussing on events which have not yet happened or might not even occur...

I am enjoying the episodes because I am more focused on the present than what's going to happen in the future... I can use the past to understand the present and compare the two to understand the similarities and differences in the mindset or the actions of the characters (or how they act when put under similar circumstances)...

I guess, like Dev and Sona, we have reached a point where we also can't predict the future (even after having a bird's eye view to all the events and perspectives) and hence, should stick to decoding their present behaviour...

In fact, I felt more depressed after reading some of the posts than watching the episodes...

I understand that we all love the characters of Dev and Sonakshi (or love to hate some of the other ones)... And, I guess, the due credit should be given to writers as well as the actors portraying these characters that we feel are close to the people that we see in our real lives...

But, at the end of the day, all of these characters (especially Dev and Sonakshi) are a work of fiction and hence, are the brain child of the writers.. And, only they know, how will they act or think in the future...

So, what I wish to simply convey, is that instead of superimposing your views on the characters and getting disappointed pr angry when they don't act in the manner in which you want them to act... Start cherishing and enjoy this experience of witnessing these two amazing characters...

Believe me, otherwise, it's only you who will end up being disappointed and hurt... And, if you don't enjoy or don't feel any kind of connection, then watching this show will end up being a meaningless exercise...

I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings... This thread has always been the one place where anyone could express their views... But please try to support them with solid reasoning or evidence, so that we can understand your opinions with a lot more clarity...

Probably, my mind is not at the right place, at this moment (since, I have been awake since 4 in the morning) and will probably reread the posts to identify some things or aspects which I failed to identify or understand (if time permits)...

-Suyash

P.S: Thank you to all the people who have read and appreciated my posts... If you have any doubts or questions regarding my views or interpretation of the events, please feel free to ask them.. I will try to clear them as much as possible..
Edited by Harryfan011 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Harryfan011

I feel that, in the last few pages, we are losing the plot... Instead of analysing the actions or events, we are passing judgements on how a particular character should act or justifying one over another...

This thread is not about who is more right or better, Sonakshi or Dev (or for that matter, Ishwari or Bijoy)...

Yes, we can predict how a character might act depending on our own interpretation of their history..

But, I guess, it is high time that we should stop discussing on events which have not yet happened or might not even occur...

I am enjoying the episodes because I am more focused on the present than what's going to happen in the future... I can use the past to understand the present and compare the two to understand the similarities and differences in the mindset or the actions of the characters (or how they act when put under similar circumstances)...

I guess, like Dev and Sona, we have reached a point where we also can't predict the future (even after having a bird's eye view to all the events and perspectives) and hence, should stick to decoding their present behaviour...

In fact, I felt more depressed after reading some of the posts than watching the episodes...

I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings... This thread has always been the one place where anyone could express their views... But please try to support them with solid reasoning or evidence, so that we can understand your opinions with a lot more clarity...

Probably, my mind is not at the right place, at this moment (since, I have been awake since 4 in the morning) and will probably reread the posts to identify some things or aspects which I failed to identify or understand (if time permits)...

-Suyash

P.S: Thank you to all the people who have read and appreciated my posts... If you have any doubts or questions regarding my views or interpretation of the events, please feel free to ask them.. I will try to clear them as much as possible..


Suyash Yes you are a fantastic writer no doubts to that...kudos to you for expressing your views in a constructive manner appealing directly to the reader..👏...I have read one or two posts of yours which is testimonial enough to realise your mettle...having said this I disagree completely with your take on other viewer's posts..people's perceptions differ so too their views...let's respect the views of others and co-exist with differing views of our fellow readers...its a real treat to read your views and waiting for more to come...Good night and sleep tight

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Posted: 8 years ago
last time dev said to bijoy meri maa hume alag rehne de rahi thi maine mana kiya...(which I feel ish didnt mean to sona she meant them to sepeate)

exactly now he will say maa toh chahti thi hum 1 ho sonakshi ne mana kar diya

she played her masterstroke..true manipulative she is...sorry I will b disappointed if dev gives up this time...forget soha sona...what he wants he should do...where is that dev who says main apne dil ki karta hu

I agree with bijoy this time coz unless ish is there devakshi cant live 2gather...though I didnt like d way he fired sona without allowing hr to speak...I felt sorry for her

I ll only say grow up ish bijoy dev sona
Edited by dhank - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Episode left me with mixed feelings.. i didn know if i shud get confused, angry, sad , then i thought to keep calm n watch the show.
Ishwari demanding dev to marry either sona or any girl was really confusing for me bcoz hardly 2 days ago i heard her telling to GKB that she'll never interfere in dev's life as she can c a happy dev now. Matajee n her opinions r like ...kehti hai kuch, karti hai aur kuch ! 🤪 She asked dev to marry sonakshi for suhana @ first but wen dev denied , she very calmly suggested him to marry another girl , if nt sonakshi. Then dev denied possibility of another marriage & he was in confusion as this will b injustice to suhana to which ishwari replied, suhana will understand wen she gets old enuf. Wat a strategy , matajii. She can again b a Goddess in front of dev or she can completely remove sonakshi from dev's life. Either ways it'll b a WIN-WIN situation for ishwari.

But wen'll dev learn to say NO strongly to things he didn want to do. Same goes with sonakshi too. Both of them r adults, entrepreneurs n most importantly parents to a 6 yr old girl. Still they r falling prey to their parents emotional black mailing is something unbelievable. If bijoy wants happiness for his daughter, sona can seek the same for her daughter. After all dev is a good father & a man of good heart . Though he was shown as a drunkard n a casanova post leap, i cudn take the latter in it's true sense .During the confessions he made after having mami's magical juice, he described himself as a shattered & broken man who never cud get bak to his old self once sona left him . He used to go to sleep wishing that he wud never wake up again in order to avoid the pain of their separation. So this man can't b that bad as bijoy assumes him to b. Yess , he had done so many mistakes in the past .( I cudn forgive for him for infertility track n baba accidental slap, to b honest but still ) After all everyone makes mistakes . Who's perfect ? No one actually. V can only say , jst perfect .

@ shaavi ..u'r predictions. Ufff !! 😲 Next time wen u'll start u'r prediction, i'll close u'r mouth in case if it's heart breaking 😆🤣 i think many more will join for that 😉 I don like this 3rd, 4th , 5th angles. V already had enuf angles & still feels sorry for natasha n ritwick. Such a nice n +ve characters. Recently sona said to dev that her life is going in repeat mode . Actually as viewers , v r witnessing the repeat mode of our show. Wash, rinse , repeat !
Cvs 're able to make bijoy too to the level of ishwari or shud i say stoop to that level. If v put both of them in a weighing balance , it's almost equal now . Change of dynamics in human nature ! Only difference is Bijoy is straight on u'r face, no pretence. That's y i'm having zero tolerance towards ishwari so far. 🤔

P.S Glad that ishwari changed her "meine kya kiya" to "meine bhi kuch kiya ". Some improvement @ least .
Edited by aarcha - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Hi every one. Yesterday's episode ones again distriubes us and some of us liked what is happening and some of us was not. Before i put my thoughts. Yesterday bijoy had dispointed me a lot. First with his decision to go to kolkata. And second how he was using the jatin to tount dada. And some how asha was not able to control the sitition. I feel very bad for sona during her communication with bijoy. It was very much painful for her to give that promise or say any thing related to her and dev's relation but it was true in s2 she is standing on the place where dev was. Form last 7 years she is in the gulit that her happiness and love has given so much pain to her family thats why she had a very strong fasad. But from last some episodes for her it was very difficult to hold it after dev's confession. Now comming to the ishu mata this time she has changed her manipulation technich by saying that she is not having any right to ask any thing.but i am happy that dev say no to her and it was very much clear. His mind and brain at the correct place that why he think about soha. And after the ishu's talk he did not go after her and say yes. Like he used to do in s1. So still I am having an hope that dev will able to take correct decision because now it is high time that he shoud think and act wisely. Sona is not in that position. She is having very less option. In my one of the previous post I mentained that dev shoud say no to remarriage. I want him to think as father and as a lover also. His decision shoud be based on how this is going to impact soha. Ishu says that when soha will grow up she will understand but she is not thinking about the impact which will happen on her at this point. And another aspect if dev truly loves sona then why to marry to another girl and give her pain.every girl want that her life partener shoud love him. And if the place sona is holding in dev's life cannot be get relaced then why to go for it. And it is not like after the dev's remarrige soha will be away from dev and he and sona not going to meet. I want that this time he shoud take the stand for his self and for soha's childhood. That girl shoud get the normal childhood which she wants. I know dev and sona is going to be together but still i want dev shoud say no to ishu. If he able to do that then actual fight between the heart and brain for sona will start. If dev says yes for remarrige then max to max what will happen she wil be jelouse but still her brain will tell her that her decision is correct as dev is not taking the stand means he canot act as a sun. So she will bare the pain.
If we want that dev and sona shoud come together and they relation shoud get survive then dev shoud stand now. It will give her confidence that he is changed and he can take a stand infront of his mother and it will give her strength to go aginest her father for her happiness. This is very much important form future point of view. So i want dev shoud act as a man. Not as a son of ishu mata. I realy hope this gudgav vist will help dev to think. Lets hope this happens.
Edited by timbarucha83 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: timbarucha83

Hi every one. Yesterday's episode ones again distriubes us and some of us liked what is happening and some of us was not. Before i put my thoughts. Yesterday bijoy has dispointed me a lot. First with his decision to go to kolkata. And second how he was using the jatin to tount dada. And some how asha was not able to control the sitition. I feel very bad fir sona during her communication with bijoy. It was very much painful for her to give that promise or say any thing related to her and dev's relation but it was true in s2 she is standing on the place where dev was. Form last 7 years she is in the gulit that her happiness and love has given so much pain to her family thats why she had a very strong fasad. But from last some episoes for her it was very difficult to hold it after dev's confession. Now comming to the ishu mata this time she has changed her manipulation technich by saying that she is not having any right to ask any thing.but i am happy that dev say no to her and it was very much clear. His mind and brain at the correct place that why he think about soha. And after the ishu's talk he did not go after her and say yes. Like he used to do in s1. So still I am having an hope that dev will able to take correct decision because now it is high time that he shoud think and act wisely. Sona is not in that position. She is having very less option. In my one of the previous post I mentained that dev shoud say no to remarriage. I want him to think as father and as a lover also. His decision shoud be based on how this is going to impact soha. Ishu says that when soha will grow up she will understand but she is not thinking about the impact which will happen on her at this point. And another aspect if dev truly loves sona then why to marry to another girl and give her pain.every girl want that her life partener shoud love him. And if the place sona is holding in dev's life cannot be get relaced then why to go for it. And it is not like after the dev's remarrige soha will be away from dev and he and sona not going to meet. I want that this time he shoud take the stand for his self and for soha's childhood. That girl shoud get the normal childhood which she wants. I know dev and sona is going to be together but still i want dev shoud say no to ishu. If he able to do that then actual fight between the heart and brain for sona will start. If dev says yes for remarrige then max to max what will happen she wil be jelouse but still her brain will tell her that her decision is true as dev is not taking the stand means he canot act as a sun. So she will bare the pain.

If we want that dev and sona shoud come together and they relation shoud get survive then dev shoud stand now. It will give her confidence that he is changed and he can take a stand infront of his mother and it will give her strength to go aginest her father for her happiness. This is very much important form future point of view. So i want dev shoud act as a man. Not as a son of ishu mata. I realy hope this gudgav vist will help dev to think. Lets hope this happens.


beautifully written...unbiased...kudos to you👏
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Drcs


Suyash Yes you are a fantastic writer no doubts to that...kudos to you for expressing your views in a constructive manner appealing directly to the reader..👏...I have read one or two posts of yours which is testimonial enough to realise your mettle...having said this I disagree completely with your take on other viewer's posts..people's perceptions differ so too their views...let's respect the views of others and co-exist with differing views of our fellow readers...its a real treat to read your views and waiting for more to come...Good night and sleep tight

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@Drcs I feel that my previous post might have sounded a little bit too harsh or rude... And, if anyone feels that I am discouraging anyone from openly expressing their views... Then, I sincerely apologise for my words... It was not definitely the intention...

This thread has been like a haven for me.. A place where I was welcomed and encouraged to express my own views without any kind of inhibitions..

So, I will never wish to change the positive environment of this thread which provides everyone with a sense of comfort and reassurance that they can open their true selves...

I definitely agree with your views that everyone has been product of different circumstances and exceptions... Hence, their way of looking into a particular event or perceiving a particular event might be completely different from mine and consequently, we might interpret the same event in different ways...

I have always welcomed them and this is why, I am such a frequent visitor to this thread since I am able to read and see the different perspectives which might or might not be similar to my own views..

Most of the opinions has just provided me with more material to ponder on... It has been an absolute delight for me to see how people life experiences shape up their own thought process and beliefs which end up providing me with an opportunity to discover and explore the hidden shades of each character or event...

But, sometimes, I feel lost in the sea of all the posts and hence, writes the above kind of posts to express my discontent, not for the different views that has been expressed but for my utter lack of understanding to find relevant substance in their posts...

I am extremely sorry if I have hurt anyone's sentiments... And, I hope that you will forgive me for my indiscretion..

I feel that my previous post has failed to convey this message correctly... And, I hope that I clarified doubts of both you and anyone else who had similar questions... Otherwise, let's put my above post in the category of "let's agree to disagree" and move on...

-Suyash.

Edited by Harryfan011 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

If we want that dev and sona shoud come together and they relation shoud get survive then dev shoud stand now. It will give her confidence that he is changed and he can take a stand infront of his mother and it will give her strength to go aginest her father for her happiness. This is very much important form future point of view. So i want dev shoud act as a man. Not as a son of ishu mata. I realy hope this gudgav vist will help dev to think. Lets hope this happens.

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Sorry to disagree with your view. Right now Sonakshi is running away from truth and Dev. She readily agreed to wipe away his thoughts and promised her father so. By now Dev revealed his feelings before her umpteen times and Sonakshi is smart enough to know his inclination. Just recently he said if I can control your mind break up wouldn't have happened. What more could he do when every time Sonakshi snubs him and shows her reluctance!

Iswari gave him option to reunite with Sonakshi but Dev told her it won't be possible. Why did he do so? He understood Sona would never let that happen. Hence he doesn't want to persuade her to rekindle her feelings and give another chance to their relationship. He cares for her and realises his part in their separation. Still in the pre cap we see him raising the topic before Sonakshi and I am sure she would advise him to move on.After all the word given to her father counts for her.

Dev already is man enough to accept his mistakes and say sorry. He can be her sun Ofcourse for that Sonakshi should first gain enough courage to let him be. Iswari or no Iswari Dev will shine like a sun just like she dreamt of had she shown slightest inclination towards giving a second chance to their relationship.

Yes Soha will suffer more than anyone else like I said in my previous post But her parents are ill fated. Despite loving each other hopelessly they can not live a happy life together . Soha's fate also looks bad as she has to grow up in such situation where she may have to see her parents drift apart in different ways.

I am sure if Bijoy asks Sonakshi to prove her point that she is able to wipe off Dev and his thoughts by marrying Jatin,she will readily agree to do so.

Now the situation demands both to stand up for their togetherness. Dev can do it by all means but Sonakshi may not. So I feel Dev's honesty and commitment in love towards her are still intact . Given a chance he will grab the opportunity to be with Sonakshi till his last breath. Let Sonakshi admit it for a change...


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Edited by ltelidevara - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Harryfan011

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This episode has pushed both Dev and Sona to stand on the crossroads where they need to decide whether they will continue to remain Dev Dixit and Sonakshi Bose and hence, put their roles as the son (of Ishwari Dixit) and daughter (of Bijoy Bose) as the most important part of their identities...

Or, will they gain the courage to embrace their roles as the father and mother of Suhana and her happiness... Hence, accept their true selves as Mr. Aubhodro and Ms. Khargosh..

-Suyash.


Suyash, this is such a brilliant piece of writing my brother 👏 I simply couldn't logout without appreciating the sheer beauty of its content and the way you have penned them and it surely deserve a separate post in main forum for others to savor ...ofcourse decision is yours😳 !! Do continue to post your thoughts 😊


Sam, Shaavi, Mallika and Lakshmi, some stupendous discussions to and forth ⭐️


A special shoutout to Chits for your post on page 32 ❤️ Agree 100%, we can't undermine Sona's magnanimity as superiority complex 👍🏼
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Shaavi read your post on Ishwari in the last week's thread. But if you look at it from that angle, everything that went wrong seems like more of Dev's fault and as much as we love Dev , he is more of a helpless spectator rather than the culprit.

Would love to read your followup thoughts on that.

I am equally confused by yesterday's epsiode. Dev showed a lot of progress post leap but I am not able to place my finger on exactly what about him has me so confused. I am just not able to read him now.

Would love to read the general thoughts while I collate mine.

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