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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Shaavi

From today's episode and the precap, I feel Dev and Sonakshi are at the place they were during Ritwick track with role reversal. Dev is in Sonakshi's place where she had agreed to go ahead with Ritwick's proposal and get to know him. At that time even though Sonakshi knew she couldn't live Ritwick, she still was ready to accept him as her life partner and spend her life with him. Dev on the other hand couldn't bear that Sonakshi was moving on in her life away from him and that there was nothing he could do about it(kind of). What I mean is he felt trapped between the fact that he couldn't go and ask Sonakshi to return as part of his life nor he was ok with the fact that she would be someone else's forever at that time.

When in tomorrow's episode he will talk about wanting a "life partner" for himself, Sonakshi will be in the exact same place as Dev was previously. She will not be able to stop Dev from planning to resume his life with someone else while will definitely not be happy with it.

On the face of it, it might seem like Dev is giving into Ishwari's manipulation, but I don't think it is 100% true. Her words did and will play a part in his decision to remarry, but it will not be the only reason. With Sonakshi accepting to leave IN taking Soha with her as soon as Bijoy told her has made Dev uncomfortable. He is once again not sure if Sona will stay with him or when she will decide to leave. What if Bijoy says that he doesn't like this weekly arrangement anymore and Sonakshi agrees with him. What is he to do then. If Sonakshi had given him confidence that she would stand by her decision then Dev probably would continue his trust in her. But after what happened and all the conversations ensued later, he is seeing things in a different light.

Right now Sonakshi has Suhana, a family and a really good friend. But who does Dev have. No one, not really. He might be living in a house full of people, but still there is no one he can call "apna". Even Golu is not his own, not in that way where he can ask with "haq". It is true that he loves Golu and excercises certain rights in his regard. But that is because Vickky and Elena let him for their own selfishness. He is truly lonely. In the past few episodes he did tell his true feelings to Sonakshi. She has snubbed him. Although he is sad that she did that is also in a place where he accepts that she may never come back. He wants to detach himself from his need of Sonakshi so that he can survive if and when she leaves.

The guilt of not being there with his mother when she needed him the most is also something that he now wants to correct. Taking all of these into account, I feel Dev might say yes to remarry, but may also say that he needs some time or spend some time with that person or will meet them or something like that.From his perspective it will be like I will give it a shot. Maybe my mom is right this time and even though I may not be able to love that person as I loved Sonakshi, still she will be someone I can trust and respect. She will be my "apna".

I am now very eager to see the transformation of both Dev and Sonakshi as Devakshi. 😃



@Shaavi, I always loved your analysis and predictions!
Kudos to you 😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
If i were in Dev's position, i will just tell ishwari that Sona is not ready for remarriage at this time and she may need some time to agree or he can even say he also needs time to think about it.

He doesnt have to stick to Ishwari's schedule. when dev and Sona are actually starting to have some good time -- be it as friends.. there is no point in putting pressure to remarry at this time. By telling Sona that maa asked to remarry and he has to decide like NOW - whether to marry sona or some other girl... this is exactly same scenario where dev forced Sona to agree to infertility treatments upon his mom's zid even thought it was not sonakshi's fault.

So Dev needs to put his foot down and make it clear to ishwari... instead of ruining another girl's life
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: dlavanya

If i were in Dev's position, i will just tell ishwari that Sona is not ready for remarriage at this time and she may need some time to agree or he can even say he also needs time to think about it.

He doesnt have to stick to Ishwari's schedule. when dev and Sona are actually starting to have some good time -- be it as friends.. there is no point in putting pressure to remarry at this time. By telling Sona that maa asked to remarry and he has to decide like NOW - whether to marry sona or some other girl... this is exactly same scenario where dev forced Sona to agree to infertility treatments upon his mom's zid even thought it was not sonakshi's fault.

So Dev needs to put his foot down and make it clear to ishwari... instead of ruining another girl's life


Exactly. I completely agree with you.

Shaavi, as much as I applaud your analysis and predictions, I'd be very disappointed if Dev considers remarrying someone else at this moment in time, because of Ishwari's emotional manipulation yet again, given his strong feelings for Sonakshi. I would much rather see the Dev Dixit work patiently to win Sona back- to give her and their relation as co-parents time (exactly what GKB and Ishwari don't want)...given Sona's core character, I do not see how Dev considering remarriage to someone else will achieve that. Nor do I see how that would be good for Soha at this point in time. What happened to the parents staying together for Soha? I was disappointed in Sona today too- just leaving Soha because of GKB's nasty words. This was not digestible to me. A remarriage track will do nil for helping to forge the all-important trust factor between them.

Dev was shown philandering the past 7 years- he could quite happily continue in the same vein with Soha in the picture. There is absolutely no reason for him to give up on Sonakshi this soon, especially because of Ishwari- especially with Soha in the picture now, just as he is starting to feel some contentment in his life. Given that he overheard Ishwari speaking to GKB, and Sona heard GKB and Ishwari speaking, Dev really ought to be able to see through this manipulation now. If anything, I'd much rather see him use this as an opportunity (and it is a golden one for him to start slowly building Sonakshi's trust) to go after the life he wants- and always wanted. But how he does that now (can he stand up for himself and what he truly wants??) will be interesting. I do not find a role reversal replicating the Ritwik track palatable in this scenario at all.



Edited by AbAnamika - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

@AbAnamika : The tracks are becoming unpredictable. And looking at the previous episodes, the pre-leap scenes are playing a lot of significance. So there appears to be a possibility that Dev would agree to marry someone just like Sonakshi agreed to marry Ritwik. The only difference is how Suhana would react to this news and will she play a role in Sonakshi choosing Jotin? The possibility is also high for Dev's stand on this issue if Sonakshi is brutally honest with his immature behaviour. After all, the last seven years have shown him to have come out of Ishwari's shadow. The only reason he feels again indebted is because of Khatri and his mothers role in the entire sequence of events. It's time to close the Khatri track and give time for Dev to reflect. Considering Dev's immense love towards Suhana, it seems unlikely that he would agree until Sonakshi chooses Jotin!!!



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Posted: 8 years ago

Shavi dear sorry disagree with you...bit busy now will get back with my response by tomorrow morning...by then Im sure Ishwari' s "Tum donom shadhi karlo" would have been out also...Ishwari should supply a new dictionary to her dearones bcoz what she means only she understands...its beyond the comprehension of the normal people

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Shavi: Sorry to disagree but if Dev is a mamma's boy then Sonakshi is a daddy's girl. if Dev was blindly following Ishwari's words, Sona did the same with Bijoy. When Dev fell in love with Sona, he was not dancing to his mother's tune.

Did he really went against his mom? My understanding is contrary to your views...the moment he knew that his mom doesn't approve Sonakshi he broke their relationship without realising the depth of their relationship and its adverse impacts on both parties...Always Dev dixit followed his mom disregarding the fact that she is right or wrong...(I don't blame him for that. Given his background and constraints, he can't manage his life better than the way he managed. I would say even though he is impulsive and short-tempered and blatant, he has understood himself better than the 2 important women of his life...he knows his life is complex and it will be very difficult to live with him)...he went back to sona after the engagement fiasco, because his mom asked him to do so...if she hasn't agreed he wouldn't have taken that drastic decision at that juncture...

Shavi: Even when he married her, he kind of forced Ishwari to accept her and did not really go by Ishwari's way of thinking. He did everything to please Sonakshi going against his mother, be it not questioning Ishwari regarding vrath or when he supported Sonakshi during Ayaan track or any of those n number of times when he went against Ishwari just to make Sonakshi happy.

Did he support sonakshi during the VRATH???? Mein ithna sanskari hum ki I don't want to elaborate the hidden agenda behind that...that's the only incident where he openly criticized his mom but knowing the reasons behind it I willn't consider it as his SUPPORT to sona...you know what I mean😉

Shavi:He did everything to please Sonakshi going against his mother

Again diagree on this...he couldn't tolerate a tiny furniture in his room inspite of knowing how much happiness it gave to his wife. He didn't wait for his wife to comeback to start his birthday celebration just to appease his mom...Only incident where he went against his mom's interest is when he agreed to keep non-veg in the wedding...there I saw the "street-smartness" of Dev dixit the businessman, because he wants the BOSE family to be happy whom he has wronged so he took it as a damage control act rather than his support...

Shavi: But Sonakshi has not really done it till now. She has toed the line that was drawn by Bijoy. On the face of it, it may look like Sonakshi was independent and took her decisions against Bijoy, but it is not so. She has not really owned any of her decisions as "hers" when it was questioned by Bijoy.

Agreed Bijoy is an influencing factor in Sona's life and her decisions, but staying 7 days in each house was a decision taken by Sonakshi without consulting anyone and she openly admitted and admonished him (Bijoy) in everyone's presence by saying her decision is for the sake of Soha...

Shavi: She constantly distributed the blame of such decisions to others. Dev took the brunt of it most of the time. If today Bijoy hates him, Sonakshi is very much responsible for it by not being honest and telling the truth.

As of I know I couldn't find many reasons for the above...would like to hear from you

Shaavi: If Sonakshi is sensible, then so is Dev. If Dev is insensible, then so is she. They are very much a mirror of themselves in lot of ways. They differ too in many ways in their approach. But underneath it all they complete each other. As much as Dev needed to change, Sonakshi needed to change too. But she hasn't. Unless she does change and really start working as a team with Dev, there is not much future to their relationship. A relationship is made with 2 people. It goes both ways. And it is not just one thing that goes both ways, but everything goes both ways.

Agree to part of it...agreed she and Dev should work together as team...will it be feasible? I don't think Dev has changed...may be he has realized his share of mistakes in their break-up however if a similar situation comes up I don't think he will behave differently...history will repeat that's all I can say...here I would like to reiterate I don' t blame him...I would blame his parent who should have behaved selflessly prioritizing her son's happiness and not to be blocking them

Shavi: Neither Sonakshi, nor Bijoy did any favor to Dev or Dixits. But believing that they did is incorrect.

Yes I agree Bijoy hasn't done any favor to Dixits on the contrary thanks to him he has ruined his daughter's relationship with her in-lwas...but Sonakshi has been a very responsible daughter in law...atleast she has tried to be...there are umpteen examples to elucidate her selfless acts...it wasn't a favour but she considered it as her responsibility towards her loved ones...enumerable examples I can give like 1) helping Nikki from the nightout 2)Ayan's case 3)agreeing to undergo fertility treatment and agreed to go to Shimla trip 4)hiding many of her inner demons and not bringing out the true colour of many in IN for maintaining harmony of the house...its not becuase she is weak she knows how indebted her husband is to his family so as a responsbile wife she ignored the taunts 5) her role in Khatri's case...

Shavi: This image of themselves being superior than Dixits has to be broken. For that to happen, the spoiler and the current path chosen by makers is one of them.

In the current scenario she is much better than any Dixit's including Dev...Only a person with golden heart can say "I respect your mom" ...the same person who has ill-treated her and hasn't respected as a woman ...she is exceptional...Bijoy hasn't been unfair to Dev the way in which Ishwari has been to Sona...I would say it's incomparable, the atrocities she has met in Dixits is no way comparable to Bijoy's treatment to Dev...still she has forgiven them means we have to credit her...we can't undermine her generosity by saying it's her superiority complex or her feeling of "I am perfect" hence I forgive you' kind of attitude...this a rare quality of Sona and it is her magnanimity which needs to be venerated...


Edited by Drcs - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Shaavi
Agree with you. Dev should be strong enough to take the decision to move on. Even though it breaks my heart I realised you are just right in saying so. Yes. Dev is alone. He has no one to call his apna. Sonakshi did not create any kind of hope about her reconsideration to reunite with him. On his part he conveyed to her where his heart still lies. But in response he got nothing to feel hopeful.

I don't think if he decides to remarry it is completely because of Iswari's persuasion. He also must have realised he needs a Jeevan sathi who will sail with him in his journey of life. It doesn't mean he stopped loving Sonakshi. His love is his core identity. Still he is driven into a position where he could see no future for him and Sonakshi together. Sonakshi succeeded in making him detached towards his love Yes Shaavi I agree with the word you used. Detached. Now he is forced to keep his love and his life separate. I hope like Mallika said he should empower himself to lead his life without Sonakshi.

Suhana is the one who is going to lose if the dynamics of her parents change in a way that she can not fathom at all. She being an introvert and adjusting type may reconcile with the situation. But I know how such kids suffer internally. I literally saw with my eyes.God knows what is in store for her.

Dev is blamed for accepting his mother's suggestion. What about Sonakshi? She straightaway promised Bijoy she has nothing to do with Dev. So both of them are vying with each other to get loyalty award but Sonakshi wins hands down.

Iswari gave the option to reunite. it looked like she just did it for formality sake. Atleast she agreed to see them together. Bijoy Bose has no second thoughts. At any cost he has to keep Sona away from even Dev's thoughts. But is it possible Mr.Bose?


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Posted: 8 years ago

If Ishwari is wrong, then BIjoy is also wrong..if Ishwari is a manipulator then Bijoy is also a manipulator...if Ishwari is emotionally blackmailing Dev so too Bijoy...if Ishwari is selfish and prejudiced so too Bijoy...according to me they both have failed miserably as parents...being a parent it's disheartening to see how the selfishness and hatred of Ish- bijoy duo has ruined the peaceful life of their offspring's...this is a lesson to the parents how their over-protectiveness and prejudice can destroy the happiness of their kids...parents need not be correct all the time...and it is wrong to force our opinions and desires on the children...being in academics I have seen how some parents force their kids to take science stream disregarding the child's interest and acumen...and I have witnessed many a times how the child fail at the end due to a wrong decision taken by the parents...KRPKAB is an eye-opener for the over interfering parents how their decisions can ruin their children's life

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Drcs

<font color="#0000ff" size="3">Shavi dear sorry disagree with
you...bit busy now will get back with my response by tomorrow morning...by then
Im sure Ishwari' s "Tum donom shadhi karlo" would have been out
also...Ishwari should supply a new dictionary to her dearones bcoz what she
means only she understands...its beyond the comprehension of the normal people</font>


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<font size="3"><b>Shavi:Sorry to disagree but if Dev is a mamma's
boy then Sonakshi is a daddy's girl. if Dev was blindly following Ishwari's
words, Sona did the same with Bijoy. When Dev fell in love with Sona, he was
not dancing to his mother's tune.
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<font size="3"><font color="#0000ff">Did he really went against his mom? My
understanding is contrary to your views...the moment he knew that his mom doesn't approve
Sonakshi he broke their relationship without realisingthe depth of their relationship
and its adverse impacts on both parties...Always Dev dixit followed his mom disregarding the fact that
she is right or wrong...(I don't blame him for that. Given his background and
constraints, he can't manage his life better than the way he managed. I would say even
though he is impulsive and short-tempered and blatant, he has understood
himself better than the 2 important women of his life...he knows his life is
complex and it will be very difficult to live with him)...he went back to sona
after the engagement fiasco, because his mom asked him to do so...if she hasn't
agreed he wouldn't have taken that drastic decision at that juncture..
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<font size="3">Shavi: Even when he married her, he kind of
forced Ishwari to accept her and did not really go by Ishwari's way of
thinking. He did everything to please Sonakshi going against his mother, be it
not questioning Ishwari regarding vrath or when he supported Sonakshi during
Ayaan track or any of those n number of times when he went against Ishwari just
to make Sonakshi happy.</font>


<font color="#0000ff" size="3">Did he support sonakshi during the
VRATH???? Mein ithna sanskari hum ki I don't want to elaborate the hidden
agenda behind that...that's the only incident where he openly criticized his mom
but knowing the reasons behind it I willn't consider it as his SUPPORT to sona...you know what I mean😉</font>


<font size="3">Shavi:He did everything to please Sonakshi going against his mother<font color="#ff0000"></font></font>

<font color="#0000ff" size="3">Again diagree on this...he couldn't tolerate a tiny furniture in his room inspite of knowinghow much happiness it gave to his wife. He didn't wait for his wife to comeback to start his birthday celebration just to appease his mom...Only incident where he went against his mom's interest is when he agreed to keep non-veg in the wedding...there I saw the "street-smartness" of Dev dixit the businessman, becausehe wants the BOSE family to be happy whom he has wronged so he took it as a damage control act rather than his support...</font>

<font size="3">Shavi:But Sonakshi
has not really done it till now. She has toed the line that was drawn by Bijoy.
On the face of it, it may look like Sonakshi was independent and took her decisions
against Bijoy, but it is not so. She has not really owned any of her decisions
as "hers" when it was questioned by Bijoy.</font>


<font color="#0000ff" size="3">Agreed Bijoy is an influencing factor
in Sona's life and her decisions, but staying 7 days in each house was a
decision taken by Sonakshi without consulting anyone and she openly admitted
and admonished him (Bijoy) in everyone's presence by saying her decision is for the
sake of Soha...</font>


<font size="3">Shavi: She constantly
distributed the blame of such decisions to others. Dev took the brunt of it
most of the time. If today Bijoy hates him, Sonakshi is very much responsible
for it by not being honest and telling the truth.</font>


<font color="#0000ff" size="3">As of I know I couldn't find many
reasons for the above...would like to hear from you</font>


<font size="3">Shaavi: If Sonakshi is
sensible, then so is Dev. If Dev is insensible, then so is she. They are very
much a mirror of themselves in lot of ways. They differ too in many ways in
their approach. But underneath it all they complete each other. As much as Dev
needed to change, Sonakshi needed to change too. But she hasn't. Unless she
does change and really start working as a team with Dev, there is not much
future to their relationship. A relationship is made with 2 people. It goes
both ways. And it is not just one thing that goes both ways, but everything
goes both ways.</font>


<font color="#0000ff" size="3">Agree to part
of it...agreed she and Dev should work together as team...will it be feasible? I
don't think Dev has changed...may be he has realized his share of mistakes in
their break-up however if a similar situation comes up I don't think he will
behave differently...history will repeat that's all I can say...here I would like
to reiterateI don' t blame him...I would blame his parent who should have
behaved selflessly prioritizing her son's happiness and not to be blocking them</font>


<font size="3">Shavi: Neither
Sonakshi, nor Bijoy did any favor to Dev or Dixits. But believing that they did
is incorrect.</font>


<font size="3"><font color="#0000ff">Yes I agree Bijoy hasn't done any favor to Dixits on the contrary thanks to him
he has ruined his daughter's relationship with her in-lwas...but Sonakshi has
been a very responsible daughter in law...atleast she has tried to be...there are umpteenexamples to elucidate her selfless acts...it wasn't a favour but she
considered it as her responsibility towards her loved ones...enumerable examples
I can give like 1) helping Nikki from the nightout 2)Ayan's case 3)agreeing to
undergo fertility treatment and agreed to go to Shimla trip 4)hiding many of
her inner demons and not bringing out the true colour of many in IN for
maintaining harmony of the house...its not becuase she is weak she knows how indebted her husband is to his family so as a responsbile wife she ignored the taunts 5) her role in Khatri's case...</font> </font>


<font size="3">Shavi: This image of
themselves being superior than Dixits has to be broken. For that to happen, the
spoiler and the current path chosen by makers is one of them.</font>


<font color="#0000ff" size="3">In the current scenario she is much better
than any Dixit's including Dev...Only a person with golden heart can say "I
respect your mom" ...the same person who has ill-treated her and hasn't respected as a woman ...she is exceptional...Bijoy hasn't been unfair to Dev the way
in which Ishwari has been to Sona...I would say it's incomparable, the atrocitiesshe has met in Dixits is no way comparable to Bijoy's treatment to Dev...still
she has forgiven them means we have to credit her...we can't undermine her generosityby saying
it's her superiority complex or her feeling of "I am perfect" hence I forgive
you' kind of attitude...this a rare quality of Sona and it is her magnanimity which needs to be venerated... </font>


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Beautifully written. I don't know why people feel the burden has to be on sonakshi to be a good wife even today despite all she has done for the dixits & is continuing to do for them. Whether it is handling her over anxious father or the obnoxious dixits she has always been polite & kind.


I so don't want to see sonas deewangi as she has proved in her actions that dev was & is still special to her but for dev it was vice versa. All talk & no action!
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Shaavi



Sona, she has feelings for Dev, but she is hiding it as she feels it will only bring pain for her. Bijoy asking for that promise is very much like Ishwari taking sleeping pills. Ishwari took them because she couldn't accept Sonakshi as Dev's wife, as the other important woman in his life. But she also could not tell it to her son. She felt that Dev had already decided and she wasn't given a choice and she had to live with it even though she wasn't happy with it. It all goes back to what Ishwari and Bijoy feel about their kids.

Both of them think that their kid is one of a kind and that only they know what can make their kid happy. Although ishwari liked Sonakshi as a person and did say she would make someone else very happy, she doesn't think Sonakshi is good enough for "her son". This is the same case with Bijoy. The moment Ishwari said that she doesn't think Sonakshi is good enough for Dev, Dev became the most undesirable partner for Sonakshi for him. From his perspective, Sona did a favor by loving Dev and when Dev broke up with her for his mother, he became most unworthy of Sonakshi.

Today Sonakshi had to kill her happiness because she saw how her happiness affected her father whom she loved with all her heart. She did exactly what Dev did in the hospital with Sonakshi. Tried to kill herself for the sake of Bijoy's well being.

I feel that the role reversal of Dev and Sonakshi is complete with today's episode. They are exactly at the same point where the other one was. I am really liking the way the makers are taking the story forward and bringing forth the raw truths that most people face.

thanks for replying shaavi ..
from the time the post leap epis are aired ..i have always felt and believed that what sona shows is the strong facade and her immense control that does not let her emotions to reflect so the cracks on her facade are less visible ..on the contrary dev's facade cracked long back and now to he has kind to accepted it was all a facade ..

but after yest epi for the first time i felt that either sona's facade runs so deep that she also has started believing it or she really does not feel for dev coz swearing on bijoy is a big thing ...

i feel sona has accepted she played some role in separation but she needs to know what role and some truths den only she ll be able to come out of ger facade cpmpletely and accept dev

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