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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Samanalyse


This is my conviction in any case. If I am proven wrong, I will cross that bridge when we get there.😆

I don't think there is much risk of Ishwari's revelation causing Dev to wonder about Sona and Jatin that way. For one thing, he already went there with Sona during the office tashan and didn't need any help getting to that possibility. Additionally, he is not afraid of Sona having a sexual relationship with Jatin as much as he is terrified that Jatin is so much closer to being a family with Sona and Soha than he is -- that is to say, there would be fewer steps/obstacles involved in a Jatin-Sona marriage and happy family with Sona.

I honestly think that if Sona were to come out and say, yes, I am seeing Jatin then Dev would deal with it (there would probably be a lot of private destruction of property involved). What is bothering him now is that he thinks she is lying to him and he is determined to get to the bottom of it. It's as though this is the reverse of the Neel Lakotia situation, where he was certain that Neel wasn't Sona's boyfriend despite all of her insistance to the contrary. Here he thinks Jatin is her boyfriend and she is covering it up. In both situations, he is completely clueless about who her heart does go boom boom for. Hint: it starts with a D and ends with an -ev. 🤔

Dev needs to move past his jealousy, stop taking Sona at face value, and open his eyes to the glaring non-verbal clues in front of him. Sona wants to be a team with him, at least where Soha is concerned; she wouldn't be living in IN if not. His family and his happiness are at his fingertips if only he has the courage to sieze the day.

EDIT: As for Nikki, I don't think so. Dev clearly mentioned her birth when he proposed to Sona, and that was before their troubles began. It was the last good memory he had before he took Sona to his old house and told her he lost his childhood and himself there. For some reason, I just don't feel like it's that dramatic of a revelation -- the ramifications are going to be the significant part.


@Sam. All your posts have been fantastic. 👏 . They are so thought provoking and insightful.

@bold. This is just the one point I am not so sure about. Right now she is sending mixed signals. At one point she does include Dev with Soha and works as a team. The next moment either by action or words, tells him he is not as important and that she and Soha are self sufficient and don't really need him.

If she is sure about being as a team with Dev, she needs to be clear in her communication, be it verbal or non-verbal.

Sorry about my thoughts. It is not intended to hurt anyone. But constantly trying to row 2 boats going in opposite directions and still maintaining that they are doing nothing wrong, not taking responsibility for the consequences when they do not go as planned is getting to me(I guess 😊 😳). Once again I apologize if I hurt anyone.
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Posted: 8 years ago
p@Shaavi: I know, it's frustrating for us to see them do that when all we want to do is smash their heads together and knock some sense into them. I agree that Sona is not communicating well, but I think Dev has to start working around that if they are to have a shot at being together. People change in bits, but I don't think Sona is ever going to be the type to be open and vulnerable easily. She will always default to the words/actions that make her appear strong.

That is where I desperately need Dev to develop some confidence in himself instead of believing Sona's words so unquestioningly. Take a step back and look at her actions as well. She may be spending a few minutes/hours with Jatin everyday but she is living, and more importantly caring for a sick Soha, at Dev's house. Dev can't see Soha anyway, so Sona could have easily argued that it would have been better to take her back to Bose house where she would have more people to help her. But not once has she even suggested it. He might not know yet that she is still ready to take up arms against the world for him, but he should at least *see* that she is very much committed to this weekly plan. And why? Because she is on this team.

This clueless Dev was cute during the pre-confession phase, but I want to see more from him now that he is a grown man and a father of two kids. Similarly, I want to see Sona at least try to communicate better than she did at that point, now that she is an independent, professional, single mom. But it would seem I am doomed to disappointment. 😛
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Shaavi

Today's episode had 2 highlights for me --

1) Saurabh -- Ronita discussing honeymoon. I get the feeling that they are not going to go for their honeymoon. It will get cancelled because of something involving Sonakshi and Ronita's mom will be upset. 😊

2) Mirror image of Sona scenes with Dev on their coffee date. First of that mirroring is shown when Sonakshi gives coffee to Dev. Immediately Dev remembers the first time she gave coffee to him at his home. Second time is when she says "tumhare saath rehna"...

This mirror scenes with reflection is quite confusing. Today, I was especially puzzled with the second reflection. What was she trying to say or what were they trying to show was not clear. Were the makers trying to say that Sonakshi was still next to him, on his side, but was also away from him and on opposite side. Not sure. If anyone can understand it better, please provide explanations.


@bold pink. I should stop predicting. 😆 😆 😉
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Posted: 8 years ago
Episodrs are so exhausting leaves me with so many emotions..happy frustrated restless worried sad..Like I feel drained man
KRPKAB is crazy

Episode was pacey but I didn't feel so untill last scene ..It just left me stumped..And I was like What :O..And he realized this so quickly..W*F What just happened :O He almost confessed that they both have feelings for each other..And left me with question..Is this patch up from Dev's side??.. I will not get to see meany egoistic Dev anymore

Next I Was discussing This with Charu few days back..that Will they go back to Bose house next week amd With Asha saying..Sona might stay back..Left me with question..Will we get to see abother Vose hoise week??

So many parallels are been created with Saruabh Ronita..Honestly its one cute couple..Saurabh Ronita decided to go to honeymoon but apparently Saurabh canceled US trip due to his sister..which reminded me when Dev did the same..Though Saurabh and Ronita mutually decided about it and Dev Sonakshi succumbed to the pressure of family..Next Dev Sona too faught on first day of their nareiage and Saurabh Ronita too had a small tiff

Dev Sona confrontation..Hmm it needs a proper dissection and I want DQ Sam Shavi and others to do it..Go ahead ladies lol

One more observation..Elena Sona agreed on how much Dev has changed in these 7 years..and Sonakshi wittnessed it after few minutes..His dominant daring avtar even cutting mami and asking her to shut up..Also her talking about Dev was something I Always wanted and it happened..YAYY..Sonakshi's one dislog which was very interesting.."Ye ghar apna lagta hai na paraya"..The feeling of being torn between many emotions..She feels she is interefaring and then at the same time shecwants to protect them

So so much happened today..I need time to get in terms with the epi LOL..Like maby revelations took place



Edited by sjain - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Shaavi


@bold pink. I should stop predicting. 😆 😆 😉


Arey nahi nahi..You have the most accurate predictions ever..Dont stop..and regarding this one..I guess they will come back due to something happening all of suddenly LOL Though my predictions are 100%wrong haha but still I dont stop myself from guessing


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Posted: 8 years ago
It's interesting to see the honeymoon parallel.
When Sonakshi and Dev had to cancel their honeymoon, one reason was Neha's situation. Yes ofcourse it was Ishu's emotional blackmail through neha's problem, but indirectly one reason was Neha.

While here Saurabh and Raunita could not go because of Sona. But here there was no emotional blackmailing from anyone. It was solely Saurabh's decision which Raunita understood.

In that light does that make saurabh a bad husband and good brother, just like Dev was once considered to be?

Also, now that Dev and Sona have both addressed the "love" factor, does that mean that this Khatri move by the CVs is not just for Ishwari but for Devakshi and Vicky-GKB too?

Lots of things to think about.
I'm going to be back with a lot of other questions!
But abhi ke liye itna hi!😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
Also Sonakshi's dialogue about "Ye ghar naah apna raha, na paraya lagta hai" also needs a lot of decoding.
I have thoughts but I can't explain.

Can anyone help?
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Posted: 8 years ago
Honestly I am so lost, what happened today? So Dev was involved in his relationships cause I saw a bunch of topics being closed on that...
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: malikakas

Aishu, you've hit the nail on the head here. This is one of the reasons I strongly relate to his character. For me this is a character that has never really lived for himself. They say if you don't really love yourself, its hard to love someone else. Most of the issues Sonakshi has with Dev's "love" stems from the fact that he had a hard time loving himself without guilt.


This was something I wanted to discuss with Sam, when we were discussing male privilege and gender expectations with respect to a girl moving into a guy's house. I had started a response earlier but didn't have time to really get into it. So I hope its okay that I continue the discussion here. 😳


For me, the degree of guilt that was placed on Dev's character prevented him from having "male privilege" in the truest sense. Early on he was made to feel guilty about the advantages he enjoyed as a male, like the right to an education over Neha. So much so that he was basically "taught" that he was not "allowed" personal happiness without fulfillment of his family's happiness first (e.g. the honeymoon). Dev was required to take on the responsibility as the head male of the family but without the rights that are usually afforded to the head male of the family because he hadn't chosen it from a place of empowerment. Decisions that appeared seemingly his, always required the approval of Ishwari (like hiring Vicky in the company).


Going back to the previous discussion, in my opinion, Dev wouldn't have considered the idea of alternate living arrangements because his primary concern at that point in his life was clearing his debts-- i.e. taking care of his family and looking after his mother. IMO it was far less out of sense of male privilege or personal convenience. More than male privilege, I'd say it was male responsibility. Dev was made to be educated and successful OVER his sisters for that reason.


Obviously a lot of males in Indian culture are expected to look after their family, but I feel Dev got that message in a different way than people like Vicky or Saurabh or even Ranveer. I feel the latter 3 got the benefits of male privilege a lot more. Vicky and Saurabh could easily threaten their mothers that they would move out with their respective wives because they weren't consistently made to feel that they owed the family anything. If anything GKB instilled in Vicky a sense of entitlement that people should owe him. Ranveer's scenario was a lot closer to Dev's... but Ranveer was still taking on responsibility for his family from a place of male empowerment and maybe a little bit of male ego.

Dev, however, was emotionally manipulated into taking responsibility of his family from a place of guilt. Like the scene where Ishwari ensures Dev watches her humiliation to force him to work hard. Ishwari is a very complex character and I don't believe she is totally negative. But frankly she was a bit emotionally abusive towards Dev because of his status as a male. If anything she's more concerned about Neha not having a happy childhood than about Dev not having one.


So what Dev ended up learning was that he is not entitled to happiness unless his family is happy. Taken another way... everyone's happiness is his responsibility. That he isn't valuable unless he directly contributes to someone else's happiness.



Uff this is one stupendous post which made me emotionally feel for Dev after a long time👏 Was quickly glancing through all posts but couldn't leave without commenting for this post. After Shaavi I guess you have managed me to nail me to Dev's heart. This is the exact reason we are all sympathizing with this poor guy who is still struggling to find the meaning of happiness on his own. A boy who lost childhood driven by responsibilty and a man who lost adulthood driven by guilt ! One of the excellent flawed ML created in Indian TV !
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Posted: 8 years ago
Hi all,

Amazing analysis everyone👏I got to read so many different POVs regarding IshTri track and Sona-Jatin-Dev and I loved it! 👍🏼... (and that is why I love this thread with all its peace😳😊)


I am still thinking about what happened today. But I will share about two thoughts that are currently running in my mind.


1. I see two jealousy track running in parallel. First, Vicky competing with Dev for Golu and second, Dev competing with Jatin for Sona, while Dev and Jatin are kind-of (though not completely) oblivious to these respective feelings of jealousy.


Vicky has always been jealous from Dev; how Dev was a good son, more successful than him and his father constantly compared him to his cousin. He, along with his mom, burnt their own house and took shelter in IN. Till a point, Vicky used Ishwari to get his ways with Dev. Then Dev got married to the love of his life and Vicky (and GKB) couldn't see him happily married. So, GKB started instigating Ishwari and the final honor is done by Vicky by throwing out Bose family and showing the prenup to Sona. Sona leaves, Vicky becomes the CEO, but only in name. Dev literally made him his kathputli, but Vicky chose this way of life. Had he not burnt his house, tried to start a business sincerely then Dev would have been happy to help him and he would have been successful and boss of his own life. Had he chose the path of healthy competition instead of a destructive one, the story would have been different.


He even got Dev beaten by goons, did black market business taking advantage of Dev's heartbreak and negligence. But he fails to see that his jealousy is turning him into a criminal. And he is burning his home again in his jealousy; he does not spare even his son, Golu.


It was his plan (and of course, Ex-GKB) to use Golu as a means to take away Dev's wealth, and so he let Dev and Golu bond. Today, Golu loves his BigCha the most and so he feels jealous because he is the father. But then he should have thought the consequences beforehand! He snatches away Dev's love from Golu that were in the form of FD's, burning a hole in Golu's future. He does not think about the consequences. I wonder how much more jealous he would feel watching Dev-Suhana bond.


Now coming to Dev's jealousy, it is very obvious he would feel jealous of Jatin for Sona since he still has feelings for her. I am glad Sona pointed out about his girlfriends to him, though 'tumhe laga mujhe kuch pata nhi h' doesn't fall in place, because Dev knows that Sona has knowledge about his gfs - hotel rendezvous, Dev bragging about them at school to Sona etc.


Honestly, I am okay with the jealousy track, because it is okay and first natural reaction to be jealous in this situation. But I don't want Dev to behave in a destructive manner. Because till now, he has seen enough of life and he should know how to rise above his jealousy; or at least realize how jealousy destroys relationships. Ishwari too was jealous of Sona regarding Dev, however irrational. Dev knows this. But what would he do with this knowledge if he does not put this into any constructive use by improving his own relationships or his own take towards relationships? What did he learn from her jealousy and 7 years of suffering? And so I want him to rise above himself and surprise Sona, like giving cauliflower to Jatin as a cryptic message to Sona about his acceptance of Jatin. Though I doubt this would happen...still fingers crossed.😆... And I think if this happens Sona would fall harder for Dev, as she still loves him and knows the extent of his jealousy.😳😉


2. This part of my thoughts is not an analysis, but a genuine question that I want to ask everybody.😊

Does 'true love' mean not moving on? What if we feel we love someone truly, then it fails due to some reason. Then after a reasonable amount of time we again fall in love with someone, this time also truly. Does this mean we didn't love the earlier partner truly? Can we really compare 'true quotient' of any love equation on the basis of moving on (as mostly promoted by TV shows)?

Also, is it possible to love someone truly while loving the memory of your last partner truly? (since last partner and you are no longer together; all hypothetically of course😆)


And I am strictly talking about romantic love here. Please don't talk about mother, family, siblings etc. Looking forward to some interesting answers.😊.

Good night!

- Tia
Edited by dreamy.tiara - 8 years ago

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