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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

As for Khatri, I still think that the answer is straightforward. Ishwari agreed to sleep with him in order to keep a roof above her children's heads. Before the leap, it seemed obvious how this would affect Dev and Ishwari's relationship because he worshipped her and thought she could do no wrong. It would have served as Dev's moment of disillusionment. After the leap, it is not so clear. Dev and Ishwari's relationship, not to mention Dev himself, has changed so much.

Over the last seven years, in pursuit of his own happiness, Dev has actually expanded his mind a lot. A guy who once said he was only interested in the once in a lifetime kind of love, not the once a month kind, found that the once a month kind has its own merits when the once in a lifetime fails for whatever reason. He has a much more liberal view on that now. More importantly, he has already been disenchanted by his god, and has glimpsed and resigned himself to Ishwari's human fallibility with the whole Sona episode.

He acknowledged yesterday that Ishwari stood like a wall between the kids and her troubles as a single woman. And that, I think is exactly the point. Ishwari's character has always been obsessed with this culturally ingrained concept of the perfect mother, one whose happiness lies exclusively in serving her children. As she said to Golu, main sirf ma hoon. The reason that Khatri has so much power is because, whatever that secret is, Ishwari thinks it will tear her family apart. She believes that her being a perfect mother is indispensible, and that showing her human side is a death sentence.

So I think this reveal will be much more about Ishwari's relationship with herself than her relationship with Dev. When Dev respects her all the more for her so-called fallibility, and short circuits this necessity in her head to be that perfect mother, she can begin to embrace her mistakes and her flaws as a human woman and heal from the trauma of her early widowhood -- the root of her overpowering insecurities and her crippling anxiety.



Would it be so straightforward as sleeping with Khatri? Then, Dev could have obnoxious thoughts about Sonakshi-Jotin and her rise to being a successful business woman!! The story telling here has been very crisp, but Ishwari compromising on moral values could be questioned! Another thought that crossed my mind was when Dev held Golu in his arms for the 1st time, he said, "Maine Pehle bhi..." Was that Nikki?? Was this baby found somewhere and brought home by Ishwari? Is that the secret that she kept someone else's child? Just a thought. 😃



-Rekha
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Posted: 8 years ago
Lot of good analyses . Just one doubt ... if Ishu had a relationship with Khatri it wouldn't become a police case. Khhatri threatened that if police was called Ishwari devi would be more defamed than him
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Aishu13

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I think it was a dig at Sonakshi back, as in saying you are the one who left the relationship. It could be a reference to the slap gate, I felt that their relationship ended there. As Sona left, when Dev kept apologizing.


Aishu, Ananthalaxmi, it is slightly more than what is mentioned here. While Sonakshi referred to his verbal "get out" which made her separated from him, he is referring to her closing off emotionally to him, to her being cold to him.

Dev might have said "get out" in the heat of the moment, but he never expected her to actually leave him. Also even if she is not physically near him, she is the only one with whom he has emotions and relationship and remembers both the good and the bad memories.

Sonakshi on the other hand did not say "get out" before the breakup, but says that she had once loved him, but doesn't love him any longer. That he doesn't have a place in her heart. She has in a way removed him from her life emotionally.

Both of them were able to understand what the other person was talking about which is a good start I guess. 😊
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: grace4317

I am also waiting for unravelling of more details of Jatin's past. And since I feel Jatin is to stay in the show more than all the other third angles, hope these details will be given atleast as a summarised flashback.



Originally posted by: Samanalyse

I thought it was telling that Dev behaved exactly as Jatin said he would. He said his do-chaar baatein and then let Jatin go see Soha. Sona gets stuck on the do-chaar baatein while Jatin saw through them to the fact that Dev is a reasonable man and won't keep him from visiting Soha. The truth is, they settled the Soha issue when Dev asked Jatin to leave that day, and Jatin did. Jatin saw that Dev didn't make a huge issue about the fish to avoid upsetting Soha, and Dev saw that Jatin respected his wishes as Soha's father.

The issue was techinically closed then and there, but Dev continues to have a problem with Jatin's presence. Jatin knows exactly why, as shown by his attempt to talk to Dev when he was feeding Golu and his reaction to Dev warning him to stay away from *Suhana*. The way I saw it, Jatin was just like... you guys do your weird Devakshi dance; I am going to go see Soha. Kthanksbye.

That's a great discussion on my 2nd favourite "Bose" Boy. I agree with you both that we could use some investment in Jatin's character sketch. Till such time, I am allowing myself the flexibility to deduce some areas of Jatin's character by the method of elimination. For example, he isn't letting himself get Ritwicked - That was evident in the scene very early in S2 when baba and asha push sona for marriage and jatin is shown stood in the background but with very little camera focus. Nor is he a Natasha who was suave enough to keep Sona close to get to grips with what the deal between Dev & Sona was.

So far all I can say is, Jatin likes Sona enough to marry her and be Soha's dad however (based on things he has said to Sona about her & Dev), he knows Sona is very far from accepting another man in her life and is romantically affected by Dev. Therefore, Jatin knows, him and Sona are a great idea, but it aint happening anytime soon. Ofcourse, I make some assumptions here but so far they have all been validated so I am getting more confident... hee hee😃

What happened with Jatin's trip to IN yesterday is very interesting if Dev opts to look. There are two separate conversations that Dev had... one with Sona and another with Jatin. He is disappointed that both of them have been invalidated them. However, look closer Mr Dixit... The rule was that none of the family members will visit each other's home. So, Sona didn't technically break the rule because Jatin is not a Bose (See there is a big hint in there so stop hassling yourself over this). And you told Jatin that he should not block your access to Soha. Your access to soha is already blocked so he just came to spend time with her since she is unwell. I can see why the LD & SD are suspicious of Jatin. However, if SD just steps back and checks on where Sona places Jatin and where she places Soha's dad, he will see that he is getting worked up for no good reason.

So while all of Dev's and your questions are valid, I am allowing myself not to be too cagey about Jatin just yet

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: AbAnamika

Hey Everyone!

I'm loving the analyses and the thread here! (as usual).👏👏

Has anyone interpreted the mirror image of Sona, along with her actual presence during the 'coffee' scene with Dev sitting on the jhoola?



Here's what I thought
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Posted: 8 years ago

I think the reason Sona hasn't told Dev about Khatri so far is because on Day 1 when she saw someone, by the time she came back Dev was fuming already and had gone off on a Pati mode tangentially.

When she saw Khatri the second time, she already found out this involves Ishwari. Now Sona doesn't know she is playing with fire. She really shouldn't hide this from Dev but we can say this as a 3rd person. From her point of view, she knows this has potential to defame ishwari and she isn't sure how Dev will take this. He is already edgy and could very well go into his obodro dev-dixit-kuch-bhi-kar-sakta-hai avatar. When he doesn't even trust her words regarding her relationship with Jatin, why will he believe her if she says a strange man said strange things to her about his mother and that he has been keeping tabs on them for 7 years. She thinks Dev told her everything about his past. That is why she reacted the way she did when that tuccha knife was mentioned. She doesn't know how much has changed in the Dev-Ish equation and is not sure how to broach this topic.

We know everything; she doesn't and thus is acting the way she is.

What is also interesting is that Khatri likely doesn't know about Soha and Khatri and Vicky might have a common goal. That is the biggest risk for me and I think that is why Sona needs to tell Dev (or perhaps run this past mamaji/Elena)

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Posted: 8 years ago
@ DQ. I like what you are saying, but the misunderstanding that is happening has more to do with Sonakshi's words and actions than Jatin himself. It is true that she has kept the place of Soha's dad sacred to Dev, but implies to Dev that he is disposable. That Jatin is more important to Suhaana than Dev. She keeps telling Dev that Soha misses Jatin, but does not comfort Dev that Suhaana loves him too and misses him and wants him in her life. She also keeps projecting that she herself cannot stay without Jatin even for a short period of time.
Dev is having periods of clarity and jealousy based on what he sees, hears and Sonakshi's actions and words.

But I feel it is very important the way the story is going. The reason is Ishwari still believes that she is not responsible for Dev's sadness. That Dev did not lose anything due to her interference in his relations with Sonakshi. But when she finds that Dev is the spare with his own daughter, that he does not really have a place in his daughter's life because she drove Sonakshi away, it will have a major impact on Ishwari whether she likes it or not. She will not be able to just blame on Sonakshi or someone else, but will be forced to introspect. She will have nowhere to hide.

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Shaavi

@ DQ. I like what you are saying, but the misunderstanding that is happening has more to do with Sonakshi's words and actions than Jatin himself. It is true that she has kept the place of Soha's dad sacred to Dev, but implies to Dev that he is disposable. That Jatin is more important to Suhaana than Dev. She keeps telling Dev that Soha misses Jatin, but does not comfort Dev that Suhaana loves him too and misses him and wants him in her life. She also keeps projecting that she herself cannot stay without Jatin even for a short period of time.

Dev is having periods of clarity and jealousy based on what he sees, hears and Sonakshi's actions and words.

But I feel it is very important the way the story is going. The reason is Ishwari still believes that she is not responsible for Dev's sadness. That Dev did not lose anything due to her interference in his relations with Sonakshi. But when she finds that Dev is the spare with his own daughter, that he does not really have a place in his daughter's life because she drove Sonakshi away, it will have a major impact on Ishwari whether she likes it or not. She will not be able to just blame on Sonakshi or someone else, but will be forced to introspect. She will have nowhere to hide.



@Shaavi , @bold 👍🏼., it will be great if ishwari is made to introspect this...
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Posted: 8 years ago
So much beautiful analysis going on.. enjoying reading them all..still need to catch up few more pages... u all write so well and unbiased ,love it..😊
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Danseuse


Would it be so straightforward as sleeping with Khatri? Then, Dev could have obnoxious thoughts about Sonakshi-Jotin and her rise to being a successful business woman!! The story telling here has been very crisp, but Ishwari compromising on moral values could be questioned! Another thought that crossed my mind was when Dev held Golu in his arms for the 1st time, he said, "Maine Pehle bhi..." Was that Nikki?? Was this baby found somewhere and brought home by Ishwari? Is that the secret that she kept someone else's child? Just a thought. 😃



-Rekha


This is my conviction in any case. If I am proven wrong, I will cross that bridge when we get there.😆

I don't think there is much risk of Ishwari's revelation causing Dev to wonder about Sona and Jatin that way. For one thing, he already went there with Sona during the office tashan and didn't need any help getting to that possibility. Additionally, he is not afraid of Sona having a sexual relationship with Jatin as much as he is terrified that Jatin is so much closer to being a family with Sona and Soha than he is -- that is to say, there would be fewer steps/obstacles involved in a Jatin-Sona marriage and happy family with Sona.

I honestly think that if Sona were to come out and say, yes, I am seeing Jatin then Dev would deal with it (there would probably be a lot of private destruction of property involved). What is bothering him now is that he thinks she is lying to him and he is determined to get to the bottom of it. It's as though this is the reverse of the Neel Lakotia situation, where he was certain that Neel wasn't Sona's boyfriend despite all of her insistance to the contrary. Here he thinks Jatin is her boyfriend and she is covering it up. In both situations, he is completely clueless about who her heart does go boom boom for. Hint: it starts with a D and ends with an -ev. 🤔

Dev needs to move past his jealousy, stop taking Sona at face value, and open his eyes to the glaring non-verbal clues in front of him. Sona wants to be a team with him, at least where Soha is concerned; she wouldn't be living in IN if not. His family and his happiness are at his fingertips if only he has the courage to sieze the day.

EDIT: As for Nikki, I don't think so. Dev clearly mentioned her birth when he proposed to Sona, and that was before their troubles began. It was the last good memory he had before he took Sona to his old house and told her he lost his childhood and himself there. For some reason, I just don't feel like it's that dramatic of a revelation -- the ramifications are going to be the significant part.
Edited by Samanalyse - 8 years ago

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