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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: mehraan

Dhoti Dhoti.😆...i thought for a saree scene once upon a time in S1..Chalo we r getting the reversal here.🤣...I hope she drapes him pin n proper n tugs IN ... IN ...IN...front n back☺️☺️

Y the hell he is standing in a white vest..?🤣..Yesterdays black vest was apt...😉

The deep blue kurta shows his hairy chest..n No white vest peeping out...So kyun pehna😆...Ye Kya locha hai?😆Let her atleast drool on u DEV😳😳



I just saw some pics posted in the forum and my first reaction was 'please, not again!' 😃 My only fav dhoti scene which has been so aesthetically done is in Swades between SRK and Gayatri. The eyelocks and strictly business attitude by Gayatri rocked. I saw the scene again in ETRETR enacted by Siddhant and Dhrashti. Disgusting!! It was so full of lust with the actor exposing his upper half, I squirmed that this is what TV medium does for TRPs.

Here, Dev is wearing a white banian, so I hope this scene is carried out well too. 😆



-Rekha
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Posted: 8 years ago
@timbaruch
Thanks a ton 😳
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Posted: 8 years ago
I can see where the sentiment with regards to Soha appearing spoilt is coming from. She is pushing the boundaries because she has now a second parent in picture and just like the rest of the family, she is checking to see where these boundaries now lie. The boundaries are getting pushed partly because they are still being drawn and partly because Dev needs to figure out how to build a relationship with his child and her mother.

Dev, Sonakshi, both set of grandparents and extended family all need to resettle in this new set-up and it all takes time and patience. Soha is learning she can push buttons, however, she is also learning that this set-up come with a lot of baggage. Dev for example gave her a very honest answer to her very honest question with regards to his and Bijoy's dynamics. He explained to her that your dad will weather your grandpa's fury because there is a consequence for our actions. There I think is a very valuable lesson for Soha.

Dev has a lot of experience of parenting actually. He was a father figure to Nikki and Riya and definitely one for Golu. Will he "lash out" on Ishwari over something? That will be the day. Will he call Ishwari out on something conflicting? depends. He might choose not to make a mountain over molehill and pick his battles. If I have understood his character at all, he wont bother because there is a lot of bonding that needs to happen between Soha & Dev for longer term benefits of that father-daughter relationship to bear fruits. And he is prioritising that.

Will Sona be painted as a wicked mother by Ishwari? I dont know. If I had to go by how Ishwari parented her own children, unless she had an agenda against Sonakshi, she would actually agree with most of Sona's parenting style. For example, the discussion Dev & Sona had y'day, its highly likely would have happened had Soha been brought up in IN. However, Dev has to catch up for 6 years and he is being over lenient. Dont most parents have a good cop and a bad cop?
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Danseuse




I just saw some pics posted in the forum and my first reaction was 'please, not again!' 😃 My only fav dhoti scene which has been so aesthetically done is in Swades between SRK and Gayatri. The eyelocks and strictly business attitude by Gayatri rocked. I saw the scene again in ETRETR enacted by Siddhant and Dhrashti. Disgusting!! It was so full of lust with the actor exposing his upper half, I squirmed that this is what TV medium does for TRPs.

Here, Dev is wearing a white banian, so I hope this scene is carried out well too. 😆



-Rekha


Yup watched Sidhant n Dhrasti...That show heavily relied on exposing n sexual inuendos...!There was no chemistry as such between the leads as how Devakshi has established subtly n gracefully in a beautiful manner...No comparisons to be made but im rooting for cliched scenes on Devakshi cos the romantic in me wants to see😆😆..They will bring out their own niche n charishma to this kind of romance😆...!I had dreamt of many scenes in S1 but i guess we get to see the makers fulfilling in S2...!

Watched Swades n loved Shahruks smirks n blushing face...If we get to see atleast this from Dev...i will be surely goin to heaven😆😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
Hi all, wonderful discussions! 👏

Just adding my two cents on two ongoing discussions.

I think Dev and Sona are divorced. Asha, like Devakshi themselves, is falling into familiar patterns when she refers to them as husband and wife. Bijoy did object to her doing so with a look and she immediately corrected herself -- okay, not pati/patni, but Soha's mother and father. They would not refer to each other as ex-es if they weren't divorced. However, I do agree that much like Dev's celibacy, they have left this open ended enough (by not showing us the divorce papers or having any character mention the legal proceedings) that if you really want to believe they are just separated, you can do that too.

As for Soha, I do agree that she is testing the waters and pushing boundaries. This behaviour is dangerous if it were to continue in the long term, but I am willing to give Dev and Sona a little time to become a team in this regard. In the mean time, I don't think it is the worst thing for Soha to have her way for a few days. The argument they had yesterday was very predictable, and it would have happened even if they had been together all this time. Sona was given high ideals and principles, Dev had the experience of survival mode. Sona will want to pass on those ideals, while Dev will want to give his child everything he didn't have.

What makes the situation very complicated now, is that Dev has not been a part of the equation for six years. He didn't get the chance to put in his input as Soha grew up, make the mistakes that he would learn from, and help mould Soha's personality by giving her the lessons and the gifts that he had to offer his child. He did the big thing by accepting all the blame in order to be with Soha, but as evidenced by his reference yesterday, the pain of missing out on six years of her life is nowhere near resolved, and if I am not mistaken, it will only get worse as he discovers how different his daughter is from a child he would have helped raise. At some point, Sona will have to accept responsibility for this, however blameless her motivations were.

I am not a parent, but I can speak from the perspective of a child and the way I see it, Soha has been through a huge upheaval lately. At this point, she is craving stability and I can't fault Sona and Dev for giving in to her demands to shore up the emotional ground under her feet. Discipline is not always the answer and sometimes can have very unwanted effects. They have this one opportunity to make sure that Soha's innocence and her childhood doesn't slip through their fingers and they are taking it. I mean, look how deep-down, genuinely thrilled she was sleeping with one parent on either side. If you can give her that to make her feel special and loved, why not? Once Soha is more sure of herself and her parents' love, I think they can start laying down the law with confidence that it won't break her spirit.
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Posted: 8 years ago
Interesting discussions regarding Soha's behaviour.
Actually how is Soha otherwise? Is she a brat as some of us believe? Is she a kid who takes advantage of being the apple of the eyes of every one around? How is her behaviour prior to her realisation of Dev being her father?

Did Soha create fuss for anything? Sona suddenly shifted base to Delhi. Usually kids will take time to accustom or adjust to new environment.But I did not see Soha grumble to move away from her previous school or friends.She never disturbed Sona's busy work schedule barring that night when she insisted on sleeping after her mother returns. Still then also she tried to please her mother through that Vedio.Soha never appeared stubborn or brattish.

Soha made her parents bend before her wish because as a six year old she could not digest the separation of her parents. She doesn't know what happened years back. She is too young even to guess the reasons.Soha felt connected to her father instantly . She suddenly found herself blessed with a loving father who dotes on her and can sacrifice anything for her sake.Her childish heart just wanted to have both her mother and father together with her. Soha showed her zid for the first time and won herself her ultimate happiness.Her parents will live with her either in Bose house or in Iswari Nivas she doesn't bother.

Soha's wish to make her parents sleep in her room did not look absurd for me.My only daughter never liked to sleep in her own room and hardly slept there. Soha never experienced that,so she had her wish fulfilled. To me she acted as per her age and situation.

We viewers do not know whether the leads got divorced or just separated though I firmly believe they were not legally divorced. How could Soha know the nature of their separation? So how could she understand the delicate issue?

I don't want to judge whether Dev and Sona did a right thing by obliging Soha. I felt they both at that moment thought only of their daughter and no one else. I appreciate them for that.

I am least bothered about Iswari's influence on Soha.I very much believe in Soha 's love and faith for Sona. I also knew she understood Dev's ultimate love for her. So I am not apprehensive of the happenings in Iswari Nivas. Soha will never desert Sona for Iswari. She will never doubt Dev despite Radha and Vicky's manipulations.

Soha is not a brat. She is just a child who consider herself lucky to have both her parents on her side. She will grow up into a responsible,mature and sensible girl in future. I feel so.

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: thedramaqueen

I can see where the sentiment with regards to Soha appearing spoilt is coming from. She is pushing the boundaries because she has now a second parent in picture and just like the rest of the family, she is checking to see where these boundaries now lie. The boundaries are getting pushed partly because they are still being drawn and partly because Dev needs to figure out how to build a relationship with his child and her mother.

Dev, Sonakshi, both set of grandparents and extended family all need to resettle in this new set-up and it all takes time and patience. Soha is learning she can push buttons, however, she is also learning that this set-up come with a lot of baggage. Dev for example gave her a very honest answer to her very honest question with regards to his and Bijoy's dynamics. He explained to her that your dad will weather your grandpa's fury because there is a consequence for our actions. There I think is a very valuable lesson for Soha.

Dev has a lot of experience of parenting actually. He was a father figure to Nikki and Riya and definitely one for Golu. Will he "lash out" on Ishwari over something? That will be the day. Will he call Ishwari out on something conflicting? depends. He might choose not to make a mountain over molehill and pick his battles. If I have understood his character at all, he wont bother because there is a lot of bonding that needs to happen between Soha & Dev for longer term benefits of that father-daughter relationship to bear fruits. And he is prioritising that.

Will Sona be painted as a wicked mother by Ishwari? I dont know. If I had to go by how Ishwari parented her own children, unless she had an agenda against Sonakshi, she would actually agree with most of Sona's parenting style. For example, the discussion Dev & Sona had y'day, its highly likely would have happened had Soha been brought up in IN. However, Dev has to catch up for 6 years and he is being over lenient. Dont most parents have a good cop and a bad cop?


Nice post DQ. 👏 @bold. I think Ishwari has made it abundantly clear that she has an agenda against Sonakshi. She did not like Dev saying that Suhaana looked and acted like Sonakshi. Also when Suhaana was @ IN, she became very sad that Suhaana displayed more of Sonakshi's behavior. She has been constantly trying to take away Sonakshi or her influence from SUhaana's life. In her dialogue to GKB, she said "Dev aur Suhana ke beech, yeh Sonakshi kahan se aagayi". Apart from that she is constantly trying to convince herself that Suhana is Dev's shadow and does not have any resemblance to Sonakshi.

With GKB constantly fueling her fear like yesterday, she will blame Sonakshi if Suhana does not behave the way she wants and if she does, then will applaud Dev as the reason for it. This is definitely going to have an impact on Suhana unless Dev makes it very clear to Ishwari not to interfere.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Sam and @ Itelidevara, Brilliant posts. Thank you for explaining Soha's POV so beautifully. 👏
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Posted: 8 years ago

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Nice post DQ. 👏 @bold. I think Ishwari has made it abundantly clear that she has an agenda against Sonakshi. She did not like Dev saying that Suhaana looked and acted like Sonakshi. Also when Suhaana was @ IN, she became very sad that Suhaana displayed more of Sonakshi's behavior. She has been constantly trying to take away Sonakshi or her influence from SUhaana's life. In her dialogue to GKB, she said "Dev aur Suhana ke beech, yeh Sonakshi kahan se aagayi". Apart from that she is constantly trying to convince herself that Suhana is Dev's shadow and does not have any resemblance to Sonakshi.

With GKB constantly fueling her fear like yesterday, she will blame Sonakshi if Suhana does not behave the way she wants and if she does, then will applaud Dev as the reason for it. This is definitely going to have an impact on Suhana unless Dev makes it very clear to Ishwari not to interfere.

Agreed.. and which is why I said, unless the agenda was to make Sonakshi look like an underdog, Ishwari & Sonakshi's parenting styles are very similar - I call it the no nonsense style.
Like you said, Ishwari right now will try and undermine Sonakshi so there is bound to be a conflict.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Laxmi (hope the spelling is right!): That was a beautiful post about Soha, and made me really emotional. This is a child who is just craving something she never had. Devakshi happen to have it in their power to give her this dose of unadulterated happiness, and too am happy they are putting aside their differences to do so (though I would never expect this of separated parents in general). The truth is that both Dev and Sona secretly crave the vision of their little family they had when they were in love and married, and Soha is giving them a reason to experience little bits of it. Whether this ends up with them getting back together is an entirely separate question.

I also like your confidence about our little family in Ishwari Nivas. 😃 I really hope you are right. Being at the Bose house allows them to deal with their differences because the environment is so much less hostile. Bijoy's opposition to their living situation is flimsy at best, and they have the support of the entire family -- they can afford to have and sort out these "first world" parenting problems (indulgence or discipline? Guest room or Sona;s room?). Ishwari Nivas is not going to be like that. They will have to go into survival mode and become a very strong barrier between Soha and all the negativity directed towards all three of them. They will have no support there, and will therefore be forced to support each other. No time or space for this humorous, light-hearted bickering or for putting forward and sorting out their differences.

That is why I am thrilled that their relationship isn't restricted to one location with this plan. Bose house will give them a chance to air their differences and work on the details while IN will force them to think about the bigger picture: what really matters is staying together and protecting Soha.
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