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timbarucha83

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Posted: 8 years ago

#231

Hi to every one.

Now I will pen down my thoughts about the last three episodes.

I will start the episode on 28 Feb. Some after seeing the episode I was initially little dis pointed as a fan of dev and sona I want to see thier shot. but afterwords I understand they are going with the flow. and character's behaved as they are expected and same flow they have maintained in the next two episodes.

Now I will put the points they have highlighted in the last three episode.

I am liking the Dve's character more in the S2. He is changed a lot. e.g. He is not going to see Ishu as a god but now he is going to see her as human. This is the big change. but he is considering her as a mother and happy after seeing her happiness but he has draw a line in between him and Ishu and he is not crossing it that's why he is happy after seeing Isu happy after soha's accidental arrival but he doesn't join her. He was out side the room. He is not allowing Ishu to manipulate him against sona he simply dismiss her. His focus is now soha only and he is focusing on her only so he is on the way to become soha's father. but the same time he is also afraid of loosing soha like sona. so at certain point that fear get represented in the form of his impatiences and this fear is not allowing him to not trust sona and there misunderstanding are still intact.

Now coming to sona from last three episode her fear to loose soha is more clear thats why she was uncomfortable when soha want to talk to dev. But at the same point she is more practical she knows she cant stop dev to meet soha and at the same time she cant stop the process which has being started in soha's mind. she is having a sympathy for dev as she knows he has not say no to meet them it is done by Ishu. so in soha's case he is not at faul from yesterdays' episode why I have a feel that she don't want to talk about the dev and soha's meet to her parents Is she avoiding Bijoy and she handled Ishu very well.

Now coming to Ishu mata she is coming to back to square one with the soha's entry. She need the soha as a granddaughter for which she has many dreams from dev's childhood. and when the things come to her wishes she don't care about any one. I am not saying that she don't love her but ger love is selfish .and she is able to see the change in the dev so she is now having a hope that may be soha's entry may change the dynamics between her and dev. and ones she see the sona which is there inside the soha she is going to have a more problem and she will try to change her which will lead to the situation where dev is going to appose this situation. As soha is small dev will have a complete focus on the soha when she is near Ishu and at dixit niwas and able to the displeasure associated to that in the sona's case some how he was having the confidence that she is able to manage the situation but in case of soha he will more in control. now i will add the point which I have put in the another thread I rellay want to thank ishu because her visit to bose, house has a good effect that unknowingly she has, mention the current state, of her and dev's relationship to the bose family and sona. She mention the loneliness of dev's life and importance of soha and, the, effect of soha. She blames, for changed equations of the her and dev's relation but it gives the idea of the current state of dev and her relation. And about the precap and his promise to bring the soha to meet ishu. Ishu has, a right to meet soha and this fact is accepted by sona also so this is considered by dev also but it is not like, he will fulfill her every wish. The wish which is not having an harm to soha will be get accepted by dev and sona like she allowed to see soha, to ishu. Now, coming to soha's room I think dev is not sure that sona

Will allow this because ishu can hide the fact that sona has allowed to meet ishu.

So from yesterdays episode ex GBK is ones again active and now Ishu is going to be more and more insure and when dev will appose her while considering the soha's wish it is going to add flue and she will have a problem with sona's and Bose families upbringing and want the soha to get molded according to her wish and for that she should be at in the dixit niwas and this will lead to the fight where Ishu and bijoy will fight and dev and sona need to control the situation and act as a team. some how why I am having the feel that After the summer camp they can show this events where they will act as a one team. so with that they can give the deja vu effect.(Fight between Bose and Dixit family after simala trip).

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y.c.yetikaroxx

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Posted: 8 years ago

#232

hello, this is my first post in this thread and i would like to write something which i observed while watching the last few episodes..

most are angry at the fact that dev is still talking to ishu and has forgiven her inspite of her doing so many wrong things,now also he is listening to her that is because ( i agree with Drcs) according to dixits, its okay to be selfish in love...so whatever ishwari did was her love for him...even if it gave him pain...he understands why she did.. what she did.

This story was never about sona.. it was always about ishwari and dev... ishu's journey from good mother to good mother-in-law and dev's from being a maa bhakt to learning how to balance mother and love.

And that is why its not sonakshi who need life lessons but dev and ishwari because sona is not stubborn like dev and ishu, if somebody make her understand something she instropects and try to understand.

Now for dev, to realise ishwari's selfishness , he needs to understand what is unconditional love of a mother

And i think that can only happen if he sees the difference between ishwari-the mother and sonakshi-the mother.( just a prediction)

ishwari keeps on saying that her happiness lies in his happiness but her actions speaks otherwise.

whereas sonakshi though say "she is my daughter", "i brought her up alone" her actions are opposite.. and that surprises dev...

dev knows sona is insecure but still she doesn't do what being insecure ishu does.soha is also attached to her mother but sona doesn't take advantage of it by talking ill about dev or instigating her against dev(which ishwari always did due to her insecurity). when soha told what sona told her about her father,it suprised dev,then sona surprised dev when she told dev she came 6yrs back(ishu would have never come)because despite her ego, hatred,etc she did come(even its half-hearted but dev knows it would have taken her alot to do that much),then when dev thought sona is stopping dev from meeting soha ( he thought that coz ishu would have done that).. she surprised dev by introducing him nicely to soha.. even in precap.. i think dev sneaked in coz he would have thought she would not let her go but she will allow..

sonakshi even if she is insecure, she atleast try once, even if its half hearted.. she still does take risk whereas ishu did not even once do that even for her child's happiness.dev will notice that despite her hatred,anger,insecurity towards him still she is keeping soha's happiness above all whereas ishu does what she wants to in the name of doing bhalai of him without even asking him what is his happiness.

both dev and sona are doing what they have seen their own mother do. as a mother sona is like asha( asha never badmouths dev) and dev is behaving like ishwari(even bijoy behaves the same and dev has never seen asha and sona together) dev decided to patiently wait only coz he saw his impulsive action's consequence when soha almost had an accident and when sona made him understand .. (i think even ishu would have stopped being impulsive if she had witnessed the almost accident)

till dev doesn't understand , ishu can never change.. only sona and dev together can make her understand

i am sorry... its very long

let me know what do you all think of this...am i overthinking.

Edited by y.c.yetikaroxx - 8 years ago

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thedramaqueen

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Posted: 8 years ago

#233

Originally posted by: Samanalyse
Awesome posts, everyone! 👏
Here's something I posted on this thread:

Dev did soften considerably after he found out about Sona's trip to Delhi and her attempt to tell them about Soha, He also took her words about Soha being small, and therefore easily overwhelmed, very seriously. That is why he backed off completely and refused to pressure Soha into accepting relationships that she wasn't ready for. He also didn't want to antagonise Sona in any way that would cause her to recoil and restrict him from seeing Soha. He was still angry at Sona for hiding Soha all of these years, but her words helped him put that anger on the backburner and focus on Soha's needs first. The anger didn't disappear, it was just conquered by a sense of higher purpose.

@underlined - exactly. As much as Dev understands that what he missed out on in the last 5.5 years is a mishmash of destiny, his mother's move, his ex-wife's not-so-perfect attempt to contact him and lastly his lack of contact with his ex-wife, he is still frustrated at the outcome. If anyone of the above hadnt happened, he would have been part of his daughter's early childhood. And like Sonakshi said and he realised himself, once that time is gone, its gone. It never comes back. You just carry those scars with you all your life. Soha also told him she remembers her 2-6 yrs which means he wasnt part of more than half of her life so far. That must be pretty frustrating - kismat ke likhe...

Not only anger, Dev was mashing down a lot of very intense emotion, and it all came bursting forth when Soha called him. He thought this was validation for his patience, and just as he rushed forward, he heard Sona's voice holding him back. Overwhelmed by emotion at that moment, Dev felt like his opportunity was being snatched away by Sona's voice and he reacted emotionally. This was a crucial moment. We already saw what works and what doesn't in the office confrontation. Dev needed to be reminded of that sense of common, higher purpose. Instead, Sona said -- "It's only been three days; why can't you have some patience?" She inadvertently belittled something that had taken all of Dev's will-power, at a moment when he was most vulnerable, and that connection she established in the office was cut off. Dev begins to wonder, "if she doesn't appreciate my efforts, then are we really in this together? Was I naive to believe that we were? Is Sona taking advantage of my deference to keep my daughter away from me?"

@underlined - This according to me is the crux of the current situation Dev/Dixits and Sona/Boses are in. Sona and Boses knew for 6 years that this day will come some day. There was very little preparation if you ask me. Sona is hurting. She is nursing those wounds and must be cursing destiny herself. However, she has decided its best to let Soha and Dev meet. She could have led this process a little while longer and guided Dev because she really does hold the strings right now. Like you say in the para below, Dev is putty in Sona's hands.

Instead, if Sona had something formal like, "I know this is not easy, but thanks for your patience; it will really help Soha in the long run," she would have tapped once again into Dev's sense of higher purpose and his patience would have stretched a little longer. Even after all these years, Dev is putty in Sona's hands, if only she knows the right buttons to press. But then if she had ever known her power, they would still be happily married. She is also scared, and putting up an cold, angry front, which makes a cynical Dev believe that he is being taken for a ride.

Dev is mad at Ishwari, but he mostly blames himself. He couldn't do what was needed to make the Ishwari-Sona bond strong. Neither could he convince his mother that she was the right person for him and their family, nor could he make Sona feel adequately loved and accepted. His happiness walked out the door with Sona, and he no longer willing to do things solely for Ishwari's happiness. He acceptd the fact that their happiness was in different things and he remained without a permanent partner and planned to for the rest of his life. With the knowledge of Soha, Dev has that glimmer of hope that he can at least give happiness to one of the women he failed, and that takes away part of his burden and gives him a lot of peace.

@underlined. I agree. I would go on to add, that when his room was shown post leap, one of the things I wanted to check was where is that memorabilia filled cupboard. And it was right where Mr Dixit had put it the day he moved into this house. His mother's place in his life has not changed. What has changed is his perception of what her happiness lies in. Until Sona happened,(like you say) he did not realise that his mother's happiness lay in very different things. And that is what he has now started controlling. He makes sure he doesnt get sucked in that hurricane anymore, let alone become the vortex.

His mother wishes to see his child. Luckily for him that has happened.

What remains to be seen is, how much of this guard will come down in front of Sona now. He has already been implicitly impressed by what Sona has told their daughter about her dad.

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Samanalyse

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Posted: 8 years ago

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@Chitra: Loved your write up on the Boses vs. the Dixits. Reminded me a lot of the Golu/Soha scenes in school the other day, which were a good representation of what you laid out. Golu expected Soha to side with him even if it meant getting in trouble because now they were on the same team, while Soha prioritised doing the right thing, according to the school authorities. They never really worked through these crucial differences in their core value systems.

@yetika: Welcome to the thread! I don't think you are overthinking; or if you are then that is our full time job on this thread so you are in the right place. Your point that Dev is anticipating Ishwari in Sona's actions is very interesting, and you definitely might be on to something.

@DQ: Is the song lyric, "kismat ke likhe?" I always thought it was "kismat khele khel." The former makes way more sense, and my mind is blown.

You summed up Dev's change in Season 2 so well. In a manner of speaking, nothing has changed at all; Dev has merely adjusted his expectations to coincide with the reality of his family rather than the idealistic picture he bought into all his life.

Like you said, Soha was a happy coincidence for him; one of the rare instances when his and Ishwari's happiness did overlap. He proved with infertility that if he couldn't be the father of Sona's children then he preferred not to be a father at all, and he planned to abide by that all his life until he found that Ishwari's bhagwan had been very generous indeed.

He has illustrated amply that he is thrilled by the fact that this is his and Sonakshi's child, but like you said, it remains to be seen when that guard will come down in front of her. If she showed the slightest sign of softening, he would definitely look to her for guidance. I think that was what that little flick of his eyes towards her when Soha called him Mr. Dixit indicated.

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krpkabpeanut

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Posted: 8 years ago

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I've been really unhappy with the way Dev forgives Ishwari knowing all the things she has done to cause all this grief in his life. Then I started thinking ... Do you think Dev and mamaji treat Ishwari with kid gloves and don't directly accuse or blame her is because they still think she tried to commit suicide?

In season 1, Ishwari accidentally overdosed on pills because she didn't want to face Dev once he realized how badly she treated Sonas family and that she really wasn't happy about Dev and Sona in love. She overdosed, she had no intention to commit suicide, but Dev and mamaji don't know this ... They just know that she took too many pills because she was unhappy and implied that she attempted suicide.

So mamaji never really reprimands her nor does Dev they overlook her glaring mistakes and all the evil things she does because they don't want her to attempt suicide again ... But they don't know the whole pill drama was accidental. Ishwari has never clarified what happened that night.

That is the only way I can explain why mamaji and Dev don't really confront ishwari ...

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Posted: 8 years ago

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@krpkabpeanut hai dear...it was our presumption that Dev is now angry with Ish...In S2 what we saw was Dev's indifference with Ish..still he took care of her...only change is his unflinching belief in Ish has reduced and her slipping down from the pedestal of God (that's also our assumption)...in S1 he rarely questioned her but now he is curt with her and doesn't allow give her the freedom to interfere in his life...it's not because he is scared that she will commit suicide or end her life by some other means...the real reason is she has been a part of his life and it's very difficult to remove her from his life...because she is his wajood and if he remove her from his life dev dixit will not be alive...so accept her with her follies...that's what he has been doing and he will do it again..only soha can/may bring some change

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Danseuse

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Posted: 8 years ago

#237

March 03, 2017 - Friday

Feminist versus Independent woman

The observation made by Dev - would Sonakshi reflect or brush it off as a male ego? Feminism is about equality in status for women socially and economically - equal rights. Independence is about decision-making powers, being self- sufficient and headstrong, having strong opinions etc. Sonakshi was a proud parent speaking about Suhana's honesty and the six year old being strong! Really? Do children understand the meaning of emotional strength at such a young age! I would say NO. Why did Dev feel that Sonakshi had turned into a feminist?? Was it her very high expectations from her six year old? Did she believe that she could complete the dual Role of father and mother to Suhana and woke up one day to realise that she was wrong! Did she climb the social ladder and become a successful businesswoman to prove that a woman can also be as successful as a man? Did she move from being an independent woman to a feminist to earn fame and respect? So is being a feminist the next role to imbibe after being independent all your life?

Dev tactics versus Ishwari's stubbornness

Dev has realised Ishwari's manipulative ways and how she has interfered in his life! He cannot change that but I felt he didn't approve of the manner in which Ishwari barged into the Boses residence. He used tactics to convince Ishwari that he would do everything to bring Suhana home! It's a better deal because now Ishwari would be calm and let things settle down. Dev wants time and he got it.

Dev's tactics versus Suhana's honesty

Suhana won hands down. 👏The beautiful manner in which she conveyed that she cannot hide anything from her family reflects that she would not break the promise she made to Sonakshi again. Dev has a lot to learn from his daughter. Suhana is also mini Dev because Dev always confided in his mother and was honest with her till Sonakshi entered his life!

Bijoy's confidence versus Suhana's innocence

It was a very delightful convo when Suhana mentioned to Bijoy that she was lost in thought about Mr Dixit. She found him to be handsome and strong too. The definition of strength in the mind of a six year old was pretty clear here!

So, Dev proved to Suhana that he is strong and what a way he chose to do it! 😳 Suhana was all smiles as she never saw Dada do that to Asha! 😉 Dev also proved that Sonakshi is vulnerable and may need a helping hand sometimes- again. Sonakshi was a proud mother today-again, esp. if she had heard the Dev- Suhana convo. Dev has to prove that he can be a good father, I feel he would be better than Bijoy.

I am loving KRPKAB - again.

-Rekha

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coolmeet

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Posted: 8 years ago

#238

Soha bijoy scene was the best and a heart touching scene in tonight's episode.

I can feel that scene.

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Drcs

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Posted: 8 years ago

#239

@sam take a bow my dear...I felt the same when Soha called him Mr Dixit and how he looked at Sona...I think it's in his destiny that he has to always correct his most dear-ones ..earlier it was "its Dev for you" to Sona and now "its papa for you" to Soha

@yetika that would be a great journey for Dev-Ish-Sona, if Soha can be the cupid and make everyone realise what their mistakes

In today's episode for the first time I felt Sonakshi really has stopped loving Dev and whatever feeling she has for him is limited to Dev being her daughter's father...she wants him to be safe, alive but living with him, she is not ready...the love she has felt for him is long lost...but unfortunately Dev still has the same love and what he needs is just an acceptance from Sona..that clearly talks volume about his solitude...Sona doesn't feel so because of the effective support system which she has...so the 7 years has done more damage to Dev than for Sona...he is emotionally wrecked but just holding a facade for the outer world...that's why he is leaning on Soha...I pity this man who is a lovable idiot at the same time a complicated man to handle...he was speechless and cut a sorry figure when his daughter asked him why you didn't contact Mumma all these years...I could feel the pain of the little on who is crammed between the Mumma's family and papa...her heart goes with papa but brain goes with mumma...a tough battle for a 6 year old...Golu is such a sweet heart...he is soha's age doesn't care much about others...very realistic display of the difference in the emotional side of boys and girls...very interesting episode...

@rekha...may be Iam wrong..what I felt from his statement of Sonakshi became a feminist is...she has become very boastful of her achievements and claimed that Soha is "HER" daughter with an implied tone that she can manage well without him...so he felt she is questioning the role of father in Soha's life...he has misconstrued time and again her intentions...they are boasting their ability to be good parents of a 6 year old and portray themselves as less than six year old🤣

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Samanalyse

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Posted: 8 years ago

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@Rekha: I hate to say this, but I think Dev's use of feminist came from the popular confusion between "feminist" and "misandrist." Sona hasn't "become" a feminist, she always was one because she believed in equality between men and women, but the way Dev said it, it was like she took her independence once step too far and the result was this ugly thing called feminism, which in this common misrepresentation refers to a woman who can't admit that she is wrong and if accused, gets personal in the name of sticking it to the patriarchy. It fits Sona's behaviour today, but not so much the actual definition of feminism. I'm gonna try to forget that dialogue was there. 😕 Get it together, writers!!!

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