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Posted: 8 years ago
Sorry i'm late, but here's my take on kal ka episode!
Because more than half of the episode was dedicated to Ishwari, which was annoying.

And I won't waste my words on her.

I'll just talk about the new trio, Devakshihana!

Let's begin with Dev.

I know most of you are outraged by the precap where he promised he'd bring Soha to her, but I perceive it in a very different light. First of all in the beginning of the scene he stopped ishwari when she started speaking against Sonakshi. That is a small change in Dev, but it is visible. The Dev who would NEVER EVER retort to his mother or interrupt her is gone. Maybe he doesn't show it in the full scale yet, but he does it. And changes happen gradually right? Nothing happens within a second.
Coming to his behaviour with Soha, coming through the window, the urge to meet her, this is purely his impulsive nature. He has always been this way. When he loves someone with all his heart getting that person is his sole focus. At one point was Ishwari then it was Sona, now it is Soha. He doesn't think when he acts. And I think he is just using Ishwari as a medium to spend more time with Soha. I'm sure he doesn't even realise what he is saying half the time. All he knows is that he has to meet soha and spend time with her. So when Sona tried to stop him he, without thinking, reached the conclusion that she was doing it on purpose. But then he figured it out and waited patiently. The coming in through the window was like that too. Jab chocolate achha lagta ho toh hum zyada khana chahtey hai, right? That is the same way he came to meet her because he wanted to. And now that Soha took the initiative by calling him, he thinks he is free to do all this because his beti wants to meet him.

Now lets move on to Sonakshi. Sonakshi, is a wonderful mother. And she is a great person too. Keeping calm around Ishwari is not an easy feat i tell you. But Sona pulls it off with utmost ease. Her way of handling Soha and Dev is also excellent. Sonakshi is the perfect balance to Dev. Just that Ishwari needs to be wiped out from the equation to regain that balance. Also the poem she told Soha while waking her up was so meaningful. She's doing a great job in bringing her daughter up, but Soha needs her dad too to complete her personality. Then we'll see the perfect Devkashi product.

But you know what, They already have a perfect product.
Soha is as sensible as Sonakshi. Loves to follow rules. Has a strong sense of right and wrong and is very sharp. This is his mumma ka part. But she has a papa ka part too! The most important one being mumma ki bhakt. Says everything that her mom does. Lets see how long Ishwari takes to figure that out!😉😆
Oh and the other part from her papa is where she lies to keep her loved ones safe, like she didn't tell Sonakshi about meeting Dev because she thought she would hurt her mumma. Did you see Dev in her then? I sure did.
And finally about "Hello MR.Dixit"
Poor Dev. If he was alone in his room after hearing that, he must have bawled his eyes out. No father would ever want their child to call them like that. Even Sonakshi felt bad. But it's not Soha's fault. We need to understand her psyche to understand why she did that. I think she wants to feel secure enough first and then call him her papa. Just like Dev doesn't want Soha to disappear, she too doesn't want him to disappear. What if she calls him papa, grows a strong bond and he disappears again? That would be terrible right? Hence her hesitation. I think this is where Dev is going to make that deal with Soha. And I'm sure soha will soon call him papa!
Summer camp bhi toh aa raha hai naah.
KKHH feels!😆😆

But the most beautiful thing about yesterday's not so beautiful episode was the scene where soha saw her ma papa together for the first time in her life. Such a weird thing it must have been for her naah? I wish we knew what she was thinking. Was she happy? Curious? or sad? Well, that toh future episodes will explain!

So waiting for today!

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Posted: 8 years ago
Wonderful write-ups everyone.👏
@shaavi, I completely agree with you. I feel we are going to see so many parallels in the future episodes. Even if we consider the latest segment where Soha didn't allow ishwari to feed her, immediate thing that came in to my mind was the promo of Sona and ishwari after Dev and Sona marriage where Sona try to arrange breakfast for Dev but ishwari didn't allowed her saying it's her habit of taking care of Dev's needs and she don't have to involve in that.

Now, ishwari want to pamper her grand daughter in her own style but Soha is not dev or Sona to fall for her innocent emotional traps. It's going to be a treat for us to see ishwari tasting her own medicine. I am sure going by ishwari's nature, she won't give up so easily and she will put her best efforts to turn Soha the way she wants.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Absolutely amazing analyses everyone.

This is such a tug of heart. I tried putting myself in Sonakshi, Dev, Ishwari, Bijoy/Asha and little Soha's shoes. What happened?

Sonakshi - My feet hurt. Within a minute of being in her sexy stilettos and walking half a meter in them, I didn't want to do it. She must be so torn between all the various scenarios. She now knows Dev hadn't asked "them" to leave. She is still hurting from back then. Wishing Dev had come after her. However, she is now introducing her daughter to her dad. I am pleased. She will continue to have her moments. Not wanting any aggravation for the little child but still remembering the old hurt and pain.

Dev - Mate, you have big shoes. I couldn't fill them boots. 6 lost years' worth of emotions. You feel let down. Thank God for Suhana otherwise you would have just continued roaming around like an aimless traveller. It's going to be difficult to hold back the floodgates of your sentiments. I sincerely wish you & your ex-wife will work out a plan.

Ishwari - Your tired chappals have a very long story to tell. I get your sense of entitlement towards your grandchild. You acknowledged you made a grave mistake turning away sonakshi and asking her to never return. The only glitch my dear is, when we make mistakes, we have to bear its consequences too. Just by accepting your mistake you aren't absolved of your errors. As a result of what you did, everyone now needs to take it easy. I don't accept that you have any rights on suhana. No. Those "rights" are reserved for Dev & sonakshi. You have every right to ask your son to help you meet your grandchild. You came to the Boses' to make a point and thanks to Sonakshi's timely intervention, you were able to make the point too. However, please don't make it harder for Dev. Slow down. You can't rush and try and make up for the lost time. The time that is lost is lost.

Asha/Bijoy - Determined tough shoes those were. Bijoy, I get where your fears and anger is coming from. But like your daughter said, Suhana needs to meet her dad. They have already lost 6 and a 1/2 precious years of their lives together, any longer will be injustice on them. You have a certain image of Dev and you have seen your daughter suffer a lot because of (you think) Dev. It took a lot of effort and help from Asha for you guys to get back on your feet. However, you can't hide Soha. You did not hide her on purpose. I personally hold that. However, now don't make it harder for anyone. Your reservations are well placed. If a Dixit lands up on your doorstep and "demands" to meet suhana you are bound to get agitated. I felt bad for Asha. She couldn't control Bijoy. Don't involve the authorities so soon. You have rights on Suhana only as long as Sona is in approval. You should have immediately called Sona and let her handle her child's grandmother.

Suhana - aww, those little shoes have a lot to fill. Its difficult baby! We get it and we are all yearning to see your mum and dad come to an amicable solution on how to bring you up. Tell me suhana, why is Golu's bigcha papa in your thoughts but Mr Dixit in speech? Please talk sweetie pie. Start with Golu. He might be a good place to start and then talk to mumma and papa too

PS: I don't think we will ever find out why did Sonakshi come to Delhi and more importantly why now? We will just have to draw our own inferences

PPS: I am glad Dev & Sonakshi finally needed a break and said they were going to rest.

Edited by thedramaqueen - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: preethik

Thanks cscs (sorry don't know your name).

Shaavi as usual a wonderful replay of similar events by opposing players!

Its Charu :)
N i guess we all have to trust makers in telling their story. No other option otherwise also. 😆
Edited by cscs - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Awesome posts, everyone! 👏
Here's something I posted on this thread:

Dev did soften considerably after he found out about Sona's trip to Delhi and her attempt to tell them about Soha, He also took her words about Soha being small, and therefore easily overwhelmed, very seriously. That is why he backed off completely and refused to pressure Soha into accepting relationships that she wasn't ready for. He also didn't want to antagonise Sona in any way that would cause her to recoil and restrict him from seeing Soha. He was still angry at Sona for hiding Soha all of these years, but her words helped him put that anger on the backburner and focus on Soha's needs first. The anger didn't disappear, it was just conquered by a sense of higher purpose.

Not only anger, Dev was mashing down a lot of very intense emotion, and it all came bursting forth when Soha called him. He thought this was validation for his patience, and just as he rushed forward, he heard Sona's voice holding him back. Overwhelmed by emotion at that moment, Dev felt like his opportunity was being snatched away by Sona's voice and he reacted emotionally. This was a crucial moment. We already saw what works and what doesn't in the office confrontation. Dev needed to be reminded of that sense of common, higher purpose. Instead, Sona said -- "It's only been three days; why can't you have some patience?" She inadvertently belittled something that had taken all of Dev's will-power, at a moment when he was most vulnerable, and that connection she established in the office was cut off. Dev begins to wonder, "if she doesn't appreciate my efforts, then are we really in this together? Was I naive to believe that we were? Is Sona taking advantage of my deference to keep my daughter away from me?"

Instead, if Sona had something formal like, "I know this is not easy, but thanks for your patience; it will really help Soha in the long run," she would have tapped once again into Dev's sense of higher purpose and his patience would have stretched a little longer. Even after all these years, Dev is putty in Sona's hands, if only she knows the right buttons to press. But then if she had ever known her power, they would still be happily married. She is also scared, and putting up an cold, angry front, which makes a cynical Dev believe that he is being taken for a ride.

Dev is mad at Ishwari, but he mostly blames himself. He couldn't do what was needed to make the Ishwari-Sona bond strong. Neither could he convince his mother that she was the right person for him and their family, nor could he make Sona feel adequately loved and accepted. His happiness walked out the door with Sona, and he no longer willing to do things solely for Ishwari's happiness. He acceptd the fact that their happiness was in different things and he remained without a permanent partner and planned to for the rest of his life. With the knowledge of Soha, Dev has that glimmer of hope that he can at least give happiness to one of the women he failed, and that takes away part of his burden and gives him a lot of peace.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

Awesome posts, everyone! 👏

Here's something I posted on this thread:

Dev did soften considerably after he found out about Sona's trip to Delhi and her attempt to tell them about Soha, He also took her words about Soha being small, and therefore easily overwhelmed, very seriously. That is why he backed off completely and refused to pressure Soha into accepting relationships that she wasn't ready for. He also didn't want to antagonise Sona in any way that would cause her to recoil and restrict him from seeing Soha. He was still angry at Sona for hiding Soha all of these years, but her words helped him put that anger on the backburner and focus on Soha's needs first. The anger didn't disappear, it was just conquered by a sense of higher purpose.

Not only anger, Dev was mashing down a lot of very intense emotion, and it all came bursting forth when Soha called him. He thought this was validation for his patience, and just as he rushed forward, he heard Sona's voice holding him back. Overwhelmed by emotion at that moment, Dev felt like his opportunity was being snatched away by Sona's voice and he reacted emotionally. This was a crucial moment. We already saw what works and what doesn't in the office confrontation. Dev needed to be reminded of that sense of common, higher purpose. Instead, Sona said -- "It's only been three days; why can't you have some patience?" She inadvertently belittled something that had taken all of Dev's will-power, at a moment when he was most vulnerable, and that connection she established in the office was cut off. Dev begins to wonder, "if she doesn't appreciate my efforts, then are we really in this together? Was I naive to believe that we were? Is Sona taking advantage of my deference to keep my daughter away from me?"

Instead, if Sona had something formal like, "I know this is not easy, but thanks for your patience; it will really help Soha in the long run," she would have tapped once again into Dev's sense of higher purpose and his patience would have stretched a little longer. Even after all these years, Dev is putty in Sona's hands, if only she knows the right buttons to press. But then if she had ever known her power, they would still be happily married. She is also scared, and putting up an cold, angry front, which makes a cynical Dev believe that he is being taken for a ride.

Dev is mad at Ishwari, but he mostly blames himself. He couldn't do what was needed to make the Ishwari-Sona bond strong. Neither could he convince his mother that she was the right person for him and their family, nor could he make Sona feel adequately loved and accepted. His happiness walked out the door with Sona, and he no longer willing to do things solely for Ishwari's happiness. He acceptd the fact that their happiness was in different things and he remained without a permanent partner and planned to for the rest of his life. With the knowledge of Soha, Dev has that glimmer of hope that he can at least give happiness to one of the women he failed, and that takes away part of his burden and gives him a lot of peace.


wow!
👏
amazing Sam Di!
I totally agree with you.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Wonderful ladies, trust all good at your end😛. Trying to read all posts...it will take time...so just posting my take on current tracks

There are currently 2 groups in the forum. One group is angry, desperate and mad to see Dev-Ish relationship reinforced. The other group is calm and compassionate, accept the protagonists as they are and enjoy the track. In which group I belong to? Very intriguing question. Immediately after watching the episode, I am with the former group but after a while when I put my thinking cap on and analyse why each of them behave in the manner in which they are shown, I am with the latter group.

Bose and Dixits are diagonally opposite. For Dixits, If you want them to consider you as one among them, you have to stay with them through thick and thin. Their dictum is among the family members no self-respect is required, they can bash at each other, ask them to leave the house (but you will have to stay back to win their confidence), they may conveniently lie but you have to ignore it thinking the underlying love which has driven them to do that act for you. These are the innate qualities of the dixits. Whereas for Bose family self-respect is most important and they will leave their dear ones if need be rather than live in self-deprecation. So What sona did though correct will not be deemed by Dixit as correct action, because for them being selfish in love is accepted. That's the reason Dev is able to forgive Ish and not Sona. Inspite of his seeming indifference Ish stayed with him where as Sona left him. This is how they (DIXITs) are been conditioned from childhood. In their dictionary staying together inspite of the differences is called love that's why Elena is their Ideal Bahu and not Sona. This is precisely the reason why Dev is still angry with Sona. Yes Ish has lied to Dev according to her its her love for her son and Dev also has done the same he has lied because of his love for Sona...he has forgiven Ish and he expects Sona to forgive him...just like the Fandom expects Dev to behave in the manner in which they would have behaved in a given situation, he expects Sona to accept and come back to his life. How can we blame him? As Shavi rightly said, I consider myself fortunate to see this series, because it enabled me to appreciate and understand people who are so different from me. So it's been a great learning experience for me.

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Posted: 8 years ago
@fantastic analysis Sam on why dev is soft with Ish? I had a different view...but agree 100% with you
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Posted: 8 years ago
I m really not interested in Devakshi scenes or anything as I can't see love in their eyes for each other.
All I can see is hatred.
Only interested Dev Soha scenes

Are parents allowed in summer camps???

Thankfully I am writing this on IF(thanks to TMs) agar Twitter pe aisa likhti toh pata nahi mera kya hota.

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Posted: 8 years ago
Lovely analysis all of u!!
How mny times i land up here ..theres always peace n positive decorum...n so much to learn n understand the different perspectives/functioning n physic of the characters..!

Thanku all !

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