*Season 2, Week 5* Analysis Thread - Page 37

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Posted: 8 years ago
@gmgi -
Geena-my apologies, I've heard a lot about your amazing post regarding decoding-Sonakshi, I still have to read it... will do it soon!

Coming to this point about Sonakshi being Bijoy Bose'a daughter after the turning of events was very true-
And in bullet points..
1. she completely shut Dev off..she hardly took his calls, and refused to even tell him what she was planing! Well one can say if she did then he would stop her.. but atleast they would communicate.. which lies the crux of their major problems!

2. When Dev told her on the phone that he is not feeling well - and that something is not right-she said take a pill!

3. When she entered Dixit house .. she didn't come in as Dev's wife! And one can argue she had to do this for her Father!


Dev and Sonakshi were not DevAkshi they were Ishwari's Son and Bijoy' Daughter that day!

and Ishwari took full advantage of this situation
PS: One sentence/dialogue of Dev's comes to my mind.. right after they were back from Shimla,' we we're so happy alone, we're back and all our family problems are around us'

Both families we're so interfering and dominating at times that the newly weds hardly had any breathing room!

@Deeps recent post about DevAkshi before the 7 year leap is so apt.. fabulously penned


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Edited by amaypranay - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: gmgi

First of all thank you every one for all the appreciation. But I would like to say I was able to shed my inhibitions because of you all, especially Deepa, Sam n DQ. Thank you guys.🤗

Wonderful analysis everyone. I just wanted to read and read and for it to not end. Shaavi, Sam n Deeps outstanding posts.👏

Yesterday's episode the dialogue by Jotin that Sona is best in playing different roles to perfection at the same time whereas Dev could play only single role at a time got me thinking. Didn't the break up happen because Sona refused to play any roles other than Bijoy's daughter? The moment Bijoy asked her to consider his insult above her marriage she just blindly followed him. She shut off Dev completely refusing to be his wife or even his friend. When she came back with the money and gave it to Ishwari indirectly asking her to acknowledge that she was wrong, Dev told her that you hurt my mother even though Sona refused to acknowledge it. But it was Bijoy's daughter speaking not Dev's wife. She didn't listen to anything he said that day. Now my doubt is did he ask Bijoy's daughter to get out? Because his wife would have never hurt him by hurting his mother. Was he asking his wife to appear and assert her rights as his wife and instead Bijoy's daughter who has had enough by that time left him? Is that why he is angry with Sona because Bijoy's daughter wanted to punish Ishwari's son? I don't know if I made sense.😲


Geena, I have been super super impressed with most of the analysis you have presented in this thread. From where do you get this is beyond me.

I am tempted to log in and comment right away but the last 2 weeks I am so pressed for time that didn't even get a chance to read properly.

Accept my 👏👏

I always thought Dev was angry because Sonakshi did not ascertain her right. The same Dev has been screaming get out and she refuses to budge an inch... I think Dev expected her to go back to her room when he said get out... it was more like get out of here for him... Because matters were getting worse.

Dev expected her to look back and say, I am not going anywhere... you do what you like and storm back to her room... but she never felt that room was hers to begin with.
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Posted: 8 years ago
Such deep thoughtful comments..Its like I wonder always how you guys relate sequences,other different aspects and put them up together making such intense posts..commendable I simple can never do that..and I I swear its like I have such superficial perspective regarding episode never really assessing dialogs like members of this thread do ..what command on writing..lovely

I like reading this thread..though I at times feel..just my opinion the process of dissecting becomes so consuming that the enjoying part is lost..somewhere..every line every action is scrutinized so sharply so the genuine entertainment factor goes missing..I dont know if I am able to convey what I feel..just be a little light on discussions at times and no offense to absolutely anyone thats not my purpose at all ..this is my thinking so I decided to share it here :)

Also let me confess..I find much solace here compared to other topics of the forum..No out right insults or no unhealthy hatred no foul words for actor or char..so very peaceful it is !!


Oh my special love for Geena (my-live-WU-thread partner LMAO)..for such a effortless writing..kya kahoon..maza hi aajata hai padh kar lady <3 ahhmazing

keep up the good work everybody !!


Edited by sjain - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Thanks Sam for your response, for taking the time to pen down your thoughts. It is an awesome amazing write up... ⭐️ ⭐️ 👏 👏 . I am now at a loss to express my gratitude. 😆 😆

I remember reading this dialogue long ago in a story and it kind of stayed with me. In that story the lead says the the teachings of Gandhi worked because he used it against British. If he had tried the same(satyagraha and non violence) against Germans(particularly Hitler), he would have failed miserably and he wouldn't be who he is now. It was a way of explaining "know your enemy". That you have to adapt your ways based on the other person too. The outcome of any action is not just dependent on you, but also the other person.

Here Sonakshi was so engrossed in envisioning the outcome as she wanted to be, she failed to take into account all the information surrounding that event. Neha' situation was a very good example of that. In that scenario she failed to to take Neha's view of life or her priorities in life. She just equated Neha's love to her love and went ahead with a solution that works only if Neha was like her or had the same views regarding money or status. I feel Sonakshi wanted to change the situations in such a way that she wanted Dev to be like Bijoy, herself to be Asha and Ishwari to be like Dida.

Most of the posts in the forum(except this one) hold Dev and Ishwari responsible for the break up in such a way that the general opinion is that both these persons, Dev more than Ishwari should beg Sonakshi if they want reconciliation. I do not feel this way. It was not a mistake just from Dev and Ishwari's side, it was also from Sonakshi and Bijoy's side. The forgiveness should happen from both sides and Dev shouldn't have to beg for Sonakshi to return. The reconciliation should be mutual and on their terms not dictated by Ishwari or Bijoy.

I would like to reiterate that I am not saying Dev or Ishwari did not make mistakes or discounting the hurt and pain endured by Sonakshi. I am just trying to view their situation from a neutral point and expressing my views. Once again it is not intended to hurt anyone.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: gmgi


@ jasw, but Sona was perfectly capable of understanding the equation between Dev and Ishwari. She had similar if not to the same extend,relationship with her father. Both were not willing to hurt their respective parents even at personal cost. Dev would never have fallen so deeply in love with a person like Elena. Sona understood him completely and even made him understand his mother when there was conflict of interest in Neha's case. Both Sona and Dev knew Ishwari was insecure and they acknowledged it subtly also. So she would have never expected him to openly support her and her family in front of his mother. That was the reason he felt so out of depth when she pulled out the rug from underneath him when she refused to lend him her usual understanding shoulder. Just my POV. Not intended to hurt anyone.


Completely agree, Geena. In fact Sona said clearly, when Asha asked her, that she wouldn't be attracted to Dev if he was the type to leave his mother for her. That is precisely what Vicky threatened to do if Mami didn't accept Elena. So expecting Dev to do the same and Sona to be okay with it would be completely out of character, both for Sona and for Dev. It was to Ishwari's discredit that, instead of appreciating the fact that they never dangled that threat to silence her, she chose to use this loyalty to her advantage in her manipulative games.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: gmgi

First of all thank you every one for all the appreciation. But
I would like to say I was able to shed my inhibitions because of you all, especially
Deepa, Sam n DQ. Thank you guys.🤗


Wonderful analysis everyone. I just wanted to read and read
and for it to not end. Shaavi, Sam n Deeps outstanding posts.👏


Yesterday's episode the dialogue by Jotin that Sona is best
in playing different roles to perfection at the same time whereas Dev could
play only single role at a time got me thinking. Didn't the break up happen
because Sona refused to play any roles other than Bijoy's daughter? The moment
Bijoy asked her to consider his insult above her marriage she just blindly followed
him. She shut off Dev completely refusing to be his wife or even his friend.
When she came back with the money and gave it to Ishwari indirectly asking her
to acknowledge that she was wrong, Dev told her that you hurt my mother even
though Sona refused to acknowledge it. But it was Bijoy's daughter speaking not
Dev's wife. She didn't listen to anything he said that day. Now my doubt is did
he ask Bijoy's daughter to get out? Because his wife would have never hurt him
by hurting his mother. Was he asking his wife to appear and assert her rights
as his wife and instead Bijoy's daughter who has had enough by that time left
him? Is that why he is angry with Sona because Bijoy's daughter wanted to
punish Ishwari's son? I don't know if I made sense.😲




Thanks Geena and I really love your take on Sonakshi. I had started to feel disconnected with her, but your write up made me like her again. ⭐️ ⭐️ 👏 👏

The thoughts you have penned her make absolute sense. It makes me remember Dev's dialogue to Bijoy when he reminds him that Sonakshi is not just his daughter anymore but also his wife and he knows his responsibilities very well. It is in the episode where Ishwari disappears from home after getting to know about fake pregnancy and infertility.

The beauty of KRPKAB is that it does not follow the norms of media where the leads are perfect and generally are not lacking in good qualities. By good qualities, I mean the leads are usually epitome of goodness and understanding and are always realize where they are wrong by themselves and correct it before someone else realizes it(hope I made sense 😳 ).

Here the leads are heavily flawed and the series is trying to show how it affects relationships. That at the end of the day we are all humans and not super humans or super heroes. We make a difference in our own way. That if one person considers you their idol, there might be the other who considers you a not worth following. It is like two faces of the same coin. The perception of right and wrong is heavily dependent on the persons understanding of them...
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: gmgi

First of all thank you every one for all the appreciation. But I would like to say I was able to shed my inhibitions because of you all, especially Deepa, Sam n DQ. Thank you guys.🤗

Wonderful analysis everyone. I just wanted to read and read and for it to not end. Shaavi, Sam n Deeps outstanding posts.👏

Yesterday's episode the dialogue by Jotin that Sona is best in playing different roles to perfection at the same time whereas Dev could play only single role at a time got me thinking. Didn't the break up happen because Sona refused to play any roles other than Bijoy's daughter? The moment Bijoy asked her to consider his insult above her marriage she just blindly followed him. She shut off Dev completely refusing to be his wife or even his friend. When she came back with the money and gave it to Ishwari indirectly asking her to acknowledge that she was wrong, Dev told her that you hurt my mother even though Sona refused to acknowledge it. But it was Bijoy's daughter speaking not Dev's wife. She didn't listen to anything he said that day. Now my doubt is did he ask Bijoy's daughter to get out? Because his wife would have never hurt him by hurting his mother. Was he asking his wife to appear and assert her rights as his wife and instead Bijoy's daughter who has had enough by that time left him? Is that why he is angry with Sona because Bijoy's daughter wanted to punish Ishwari's son? I don't know if I made sense.😲

You have mentaion the root cause of there separation . in the entire slap gate and before when there was fights of baba, bose at dixit niwas dev wad switching between the ishu son and sona's dev but I must say ishu's son dominated dev who is sona's dev and you know sona's dev allowed thus domination because his, fear to lose, his, lifeline, sona. He don't want to feel the guilty that he, is, not able to fulfill his responsibly which will force him to make the, decision which will cost him to lose sona.

You know, these two fooles dedicated there entire life to fulfilled there, parents wish and still paying price of it. I thik dev some how, undestood his mistake but sona required to understand.
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Posted: 8 years ago
Divya, Mahua, Shaavi n @ Amaypranay Thank you guys😳
@ Divya, this thread and the amazing analysis here is affecting me😆
@ Mahua, what you said is true to an extend but I started loving the show more after this thread and more analysis😃
@Shaavi, completely agree with you. I am glad that I was able make you connect to Sona again. But you helped me to view Dev differently
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Posted: 8 years ago
Such fabulous write-ups guys. I am seriously at loss of words. Thanks to all the wonderful writers in this thread for enhancing my viewing experience of this show with your outstanding posts. Thanks to one and all.👏
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: gmgi

First of all thank you every one for all the appreciation. But I would like to say I was able to shed my inhibitions because of you all, especially Deepa, Sam n DQ. Thank you guys.🤗

Wonderful analysis everyone. I just wanted to read and read and for it to not end. Shaavi, Sam n Deeps outstanding posts.👏

Yesterday's episode the dialogue by Jotin that Sona is best in playing different roles to perfection at the same time whereas Dev could play only single role at a time got me thinking. Didn't the break up happen because Sona refused to play any roles other than Bijoy's daughter? The moment Bijoy asked her to consider his insult above her marriage she just blindly followed him. She shut off Dev completely refusing to be his wife or even his friend. When she came back with the money and gave it to Ishwari indirectly asking her to acknowledge that she was wrong, Dev told her that you hurt my mother even though Sona refused to acknowledge it. But it was Bijoy's daughter speaking not Dev's wife. She didn't listen to anything he said that day. Now my doubt is did he ask Bijoy's daughter to get out? Because his wife would have never hurt him by hurting his mother. Was he asking his wife to appear and assert her rights as his wife and instead Bijoy's daughter who has had enough by that time left him? Is that why he is angry with Sona because Bijoy's daughter wanted to punish Ishwari's son? I don't know if I made sense.😲


Geena ,that's a nice perspective . Regarding break-up this is my take . For me Dev had really started messing up things for some time even before break-up. Specially regarding fake-pregnancy, Ayans blackmail, and then fertility treatment. But she did forgive him, if you think about it she was always ready to forget and forgive as long as the suffering party is herself (Dev's birthday is another example) . Now for Dev the infertility of Sona was a - mind over matter for him , not because the kids don't matter to him , but being with Sonakshi mattered more than anything to him, I think that was the first time Dev chose his happiness over his mother's as he very well knew , Ishwari's expectations , and he was doing injustice to Ishwari by choosing to hide Sona's health condition during marriage. As Sona said Dev always went for quick solutions , so when the fake pregnancy was revealed he only wanted to do damage control by reassuring Ishwari . But the truth is he didn't really care if the treatment succeed or not as long as Ishwari is home and relieved. He expected Sona to understand that , as he already made clear that their love was more than enough for him . As the first thing Sona told after fake pregnancy got revealed was she wanted to be a mother and give Ishwari grandkid , he believed Sona would be onboard and this would be the ideal solution. But Sona was not , as she already started feeling insecure that if Ishwari would ever accept her , if she fails her expectations , also Dev's sudden panic and request for the treatment didn't help either . But in reality for Dev it was only a damage control , and believed Sona also knew what he thought about the issue , as he made it clear to her .

While coming back from Shimla , they agreed they would not let anyone come between them , and Dev believed in it . In his whole life , Sona is the one person he really opened up , and had blind trust that she would always understand him , and would be there for him. So after the slap-gate incident , he knew he created a mess , but was hoping for Sona's understanding that he would never do that intentionally . So believing on their promise he was expecting Sona and him finding a solution together to make things right . But for Sona her family's pride and financial status were always sensitive matters. For Dev the investment was never an "Ehsaan" , and he cleared it in front of the family , but he was scared of Ishwari's reaction as he was only recovering from "Ishwari's run-away " . He didn't want Ishwari to have more misunderstandings regarding Sona n family .

Sona here failed to make him understand how insulting it was for her family, and why it is important for her to return the money by completely shutting him off , and taking some stupid decisions by mortgaging their house . If they acted as a team here , and Sona had let him in , I'm sure he could have given her a better financial solution . Being impatient , Dev did try to make amends on his own , only to be insulted in front of the whole neighborhood .

The situation became a lot worse when Sona came to return the money , I believe it should have been Saurabh instead of Sona as he was the one who took help and could have handled the situation much better just like he did during Sona's muh-dikhayi . Dev was more angry at Sona for acting on her own , and failing to understand his intention. For him it was her ego talking , but what he told about those financial decisions were right , but Sona took offence in his words . In that final showdown , he was witnessing something he feared the most , Sona-Ishwari open fight , and he already knew what was running in Ishwari's mind , and was mad at Sona for acting irrationally making the situation worse ( Sona always chose to be on high horse , and had set his bar high so he could not believe or understand why she was acting this way) . When he told her to go from there , I don't think he meant it as get out from my life , but that was another damage control for him . Just like Sona needed her space when she thought her family was insulted, he wanted the same and make things right .

But for Sona it was beyond her breaking point. In her mind Ishwari was again taking decision for them , and Dev was again the weak person , who would not stand up against his mother even when he knew Ishwari was asking for a separation again or her family was being accused of gold-diggers. To add , final nail on the coffin , there was Vicky's poisonous words , and throwing them out of their house .

Its true Vicky was taking advantage of the situation but they both made it easier for him. I know we can blame him for Bose house issue , but the truth is Sona had to take some responsibility because she practically give it to Vicky on a platter by making a not-so-smart financial decision like Dev said . Dev might not know about Vicky's all evil intentions but Sona did , still her anger made her believe Vicky's words over Dev's regarding pre-nup and Bose house . Dev she saw there was a man who was broken by his own mother's betrayal , angry at his messed up life , when time and time again he only worked hard to make everyone happy . When everyone else including his mother criticized his actions and cornered him his only hope was Sona , whom he thought knew him better but the Sona he saw was someone alien to him ,one who didn't give two hoots about his words but told the most hurtful things to him and behaved like she never ever understood him .

But whatever she said and done would never justify the way he acted after that . Eventhough lots of people call him a MCP , for me he was someone who always respected woman , it doesn't matter he was in a horrible inebriated mental state , I would always hold him responsible for speaking so lowly about her career and lifting his hand against Sona , accusing her of a gold-digger and for being least bothered about Sona's family even after knowing they were on streets because of him .

I believe both of them were responsible for separation , and Sona really had her own share of mistakes . But if we keep scores for me Dev's side is higher .

Edited by desigirl987 - 8 years ago

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