*Season 2, Week 4* Analysis Thread - Page 18

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Posted: 8 years ago
Rekha, I love what you wrote here.
"I read in the forum about a new character being introduced in the show. If that's how it's going forward, I would like the Creatives to show Dev in a different light. The saying goes,"If you love someone fiercely, let go. If the person loves you back, he would come back to you, forever!" Dev should not start acting like the lover pre-leap who insulted Ritwik, ruined their dinner date etc. He should act like Ajay Devgn in Hum Dil... 😃 Sonakshi needs to reflect whether she still wants Dev to be a part of her life forever. The choice should entirely be hers. "

Look fw to see a matured Dev this time.
I will really not be able to view a Dev who sabotages Jatin's business plans(like he did with Ritwik's loan) or acts like a jealous teen. Ek baar kafi hai.

How I had wished for matured talks... Sona letting off her steam of how she felt totally insulted/vulnerable/outcast at Dixit house, etc... and then Dev with whatever it is(honestly I still dont understand what he expected of Sona after he insulted her so badly... but theek hai jo bhi hai wo bole)

Although the new guy is quite easy on the eyes. i wouldn't mind him around Sona.
Hope Dev will not comment on Sona's character again.
Edited by JShukla - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Dear Sabita, to your Ques.. i want all of us to take a journey back to season 1.0 - coz it seems like dev and his thought process is not really understood by many of us...(pardon me for my poor vocabulary)

obodhro to dev1.0 who saved sona1.0 from accident.. he said the same line as yday, had it been anyone else i would do the same... then also ishwari didnt like it.. now also she didnt approve of it...

we saw the dev1.0 desperate n opened up his heart n all vulnerabilities n pain he has hid as facade..to sona1.0 and she remembers it all...n was shell shocked.. that she never realised all this...
(just before the accident.. they both had a conversation... about their relative families.. n that sona indeed is a lucky gal to have such a family like she owns..even as friend.. he wanted sona to understand..more than he could offer... n he always felt indebted... to her.. but cudnt give her that respect which others should have given...)

Sona fell in love with Dev.. but wasnt really strong enough to let him know about it...
Dev also many a times, missed many of his important meetings or occasion in the chakkar of missing sona's presence... n he appeared himself in her doorstep...
It needed a big event like Engagement... and a positive help from his sisters to sit thru this all...n realise what his heart really says... and then he did act on it.. with a confidence that all in his home love Sona.. his mom, his sisters, mamaji.. - he knew vikky n mamiji didnt like.. but he cared any less for their thought, seldom did he think all his assumptions were wrong.. and why were they wrong..?
As DQ said.. he has a poor EQ.. as he was not allowed to be so... "A family provider who has no option to fail..."

He went...with confidence... and what he saw marvelled him... she too loved him.. his raw love confession...
and he felt life is finally being fair to him.. and he got a return gift for all the hardwork n pain..
he became like a child.. and she completed him... there was innocence flown.. and sona was flattered.. seeing this dev... and she believed this dev...who had no constraints...n was the boss..

then they were introduced to "lets talk about it n disclose it to families" - he had a fear of losing sona.. coz he felt.. he is not the man who cud protect her.. and mayb he is not worthy enough of sona.. he never thought his family wud say a no.. he was thinking the other way round... but sona the stronger one saw the other way...which was more real.. as sona was having high EQ... thanks to her family...n their sane happy minds...

Much in contrast to his anticipation.. whom he trusted the most.. will be happy for his one decision.. which she only asked him to.. he was devastated... that his mom wont live... there was this another vulnerability.. he is not selfish to the core.. that he think only for himself.. since then it was known.. he doesnt know how to balance such hard hitting emotions.. which bounce back to him.. "Choose me.. coz u love me" and u have only one option... "was it fair to him" - One is his mother, the other his need, his love...

He was hoping that sona wud not leave him.. (for the promise...he had taken..."u wont leave our fights midway)...but there again in pressure of her family... she also gave in for Ritwick... like he said much earlier.. it hit him hard.. and he cud not bear it anymore... he cud not live without her... but did he have a choice... his mom for which he did all this.. still is believing that what she thinks for him is the best... but he started showing his other side post drinking... he never resorted to this...

[now is this sona's fault.. he said humein alag hona chahiye... tumne dekha nahi... maa humari vajeh se.. and all... - he was still conversing with her - but in his deep trouble - she did not stick to him - he is a kid with her - and a parent to Ishwari - this is Dev - so he wanted Sona to be a mother... remember Neha's marriage time... he trusted Sona has the ability to correct him with love.. and understands him n protect him... and give him hope... ]

Then post devkideewangi... he blurted all what he had in his mind.. and his mom took decision on his behalf.. he said no need when she declared.. but then why wud he not want it.. when she said.. she is happy with it... he believed her this time... and nothing made him more happier than this statement...

he ran to sona again like a kid.. maa haan kar di... what he fails to understand is .. sona is not a object who is only independent.. there are other dependancies on sona.. and who is affected by her vulnerabilities n pain... and they do not want this for her... like ishwari thought, this time bejoy did that.. why? as he is a mamma's boy... he is only when it came to doing household chores.. but not otherwise.. he is an ardent n obedient son.. only coz he has seen his mom struggle more than a woman should have.. n wanted to give her the world.. and he felt that was his duty...

so this time, it was sona who had constraints.. and he was sad that sona whom he thought fought all odds for him last night, would be capable enough to protect this time "their love" which he could not...
His mom took initiative, and he did not do much.. and he saw sona made everyone say a yes for them..

his happiness knew no bounds.. and then comes the worlds best proposal... they had tears in their eyes.. than romance.. they had love.. that overflowed...n they fell...
here it is symbolic.. falling together in love... but all that mattered to him.. is her presence always... and for her also she kept saying he is enough... his companionship...
both meant different... one meant be with me.. no matter what.. and the other be with me.. no matter what.. confusing aint it? dev expected sona.. to understand his complex family..and him..
and sona wanted her prince charming... to be like her mighty dad.. so that she cud b like her mom...

so sona went that way, trying to be with saas... like perhaps her mom... and remember wen he fed sona.. what she said.. feed me.. and make me strong.. so that i can fight my own battles.. she also said all that he wanted... n loved sona even more...

with each passing day, things were getting worse than better... and everytime.. she passified him, consoled him.. and stood by him..
small eg passive decision he once again made.. he wont go for HM.. [like breakup 1 - humein alag hona chahiye : there she left/ but in honeymoon time.. she stood by him]
this one made him believe.. yes unfortantely the dreaded 3 words.. sona became "taken for granted"
he knew he cud take any decision, and she will support him...and stand by him... that's what he saw...
riya's case, he believed in her instincts...and he supported her too.. not his mom's...

then came next unexpected blow.. that she is pregnant...omg, he wud not work the dirty way had he not see the positive home he wanted to with sona's presence..
he the man in control.. tried to do that... but that's where it hit sona badly...wen it all came out...
she saw the damage she did to him...by allowing him to take her for granted... and do quick fixes... which was wrong... but also saw he knew that she was not capable of being a mother..
that broke her completely... now this is where dev failed to understand Sona...

he continued to believe sona is sona.. and will remain the sona who sheltered him.. his wrongs n all... he saw a frustrating sona, at shimla... and he tried to say many things like a kid fight...
who just wants to win.. he did not know how to face it with words.. as he is a man of few words... and he had nothing much to say.. so with love he conquered her...
that when he say no matter what still i love u.. obviously he is hurt, and he know she is.. but he wanted her to be the same old sona...and make her feel complete thru him.. why then feel incomplete.. that she cannot be a mother..."you complete me, and she says.. and u complete me..."

then comes the slap fiasco, n fiancial funda.. and his mom unbearing talks like leave this home and all... he was not able to take that.. coz he thought the man who always only provided is now wrong... and his mom again feels cheated.. [those dialogues she told mamaji at hospital after high dosage of pills] , together with this... sona made it more difficult that she brings 4.5crores risking her family to prove his mom wrong... he was feeling bad, that sona was trying to do that.. n she in her ego was doing blunders..what then did he mean.. about u insulting my mom..
his mom just said, leave home.. n he somehow convinced her... that no she cares.. and there u go.. he cud not tell all this.. before that she brings this.. and makes it all the more worse..
his mom continues what she said to dev, to sona.. in a broken line - that made sona scared.. n she first time yelled to his mom...
in that emotional drain.. he gets scared.. like what was this.. and then in that push n all his mom falls.. and he said.. leave sona... [breakup 2]
next mistake of dev - how do u expect sona to understand why u said all that - but Dev's thought... she was in no interest to even listen to me... then how cud I even explain?

he said leave, and she left.. he was shocked at it.. that once again.. she left him...
again he is an injured soul.. and must say kudos to vikki.. he knows this guy in n out.. he attacked him all corners.. and ensured that sona doesnt get back to dev anyhow.. coz he fears.. n knew.. sona is dev's strength.. and if she is not there.. then everything belongs to them...

And Dev in shock 1.. see another shocker.. his mom n her prenup...
and learns from his mom.. that he made sona shelterless.. the dev who was protecting her in the morning not to do blunders.. felt completely low.. that what he feared happened.. and everyone says its him..
when he know sona is coming to meet him.. he was like now he will make things okay.. and that is his decision.. "HE WILL STAY WITH SONA"

his decision was not a 5 min decision which sona2.0 from the farmhouse took... his decision was based on the entire journey...
he knew only one person loved him irrespective of Dev Dixit n his financial background.. and that is Sona...his own Sona..
the sona who protects him.. nurishes him with love and care..
He did not care about a child or anything.. or to prove his mom anymore anything.. he was done with them ever..!!!

But Sona did not listen to him.. and said she dont want him anymore.. no more chance... [again as she heard Ishwari's name.. he did not know to present it well.. his fault again... n also as her family has no home.. and she dont want to rely on Dev.. as the world will believe that she looked to Dev when she n her family is homeless]

The situation here is wrong, and Sona refused to be with Dev.. she chose her family over him... and in his limited understanding just saw... that she chose family over him...
Neither did he understand her, nor did she...

So he said all that cud hurt her ego more n more as she chose family over him for self respect n ego mix... and now Sona.. who saw while drinking he spoke the truth believed it all...
she failed to understand that this time.. he was fighting with her.. and so is not the truth.. unlike last time.. he was in pain.. and he was asking her for help...so he said the truth...

This is why both are angry at each other and not indifferent...

Am not sure if i cud explain well.. but trust me guys.. we need a deeep understanding of Dev... i so feel for him... he is completely lonely...
yday he was the old dev... when golu spoke to him..
toh batti kar lo.. he was like she said no first.. then why i should?
jeevan bhar saath nibhane ka vaada kiya.. n all..

So to all of u who think.. promises are not meant to be 1-way it is 2-way...
Wish he had the strength to keep them.. he is a poor flawed man.. who needs help..

Just like ishwari.. and that's why dev goes n shelters ishwari yday.. by put her blanket on her...
he knows she need help... and not his anger...coz in anger.. they get more bruised...

PS : Sorry for this very long post... amidst u great analysts.. and analogical pals...


Love,
Sajini

Edited by sajinifaby - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

@ Sajini...Take a bow for this beautiful analysis n writing...i never dare to write as my thoughts n words never match...but can't stop praising your this post...thank you
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: FLW70


@ Sajini...Take a bow for this beautiful analysis n writing...i never dare to write as my thoughts n words never match...but can't stop praising your this post...thank you


Thank u so much for the appreciation.. means a lot to me.. 😃
and i hope i was convincing enough.. why i believe both have their share of reasons for anger..
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Posted: 8 years ago
Dearies.. i still have so much to read.. and i now love reading due to amazing analysis n piece of writing... wow.. u guys nail it.. just like our leads... 😃
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Posted: 8 years ago
take a bow sajini..👏excellent write up😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
I think Dev made pretty clear yesterday, in his own words, why he is angry. Sona promised to stay with him for life, and she left. For Dev, it really is as simple as that. Sona was right when she observed that Dev was angry with himself, but she was way off on the reason for that anger. He is not regretting that he gave Sona up, becasue from his point of view, he didn't. He is angry because the one person he chose for himself, the person he trusted with everything most precious to him, turned around and walked out on him. The anger comes from the fact that he was naive enough to take Sona and Ishwari at face value.

In the car on the way back from Shimla, he promised her that he wouldn't let anything else come between them, and asked her to promise that whatever problem came up, they would face it together as a team, and she did -- and he believed her. Now post-slapgate, the issues arose because Dev followed the letter of that promise and expcted the same from Sona, but ignored the fine print, i.e. Sona's emotions. And I think the reason Sona's reactions confused Dev so much was that she never expressed the emotions that drove her decisions in that moment before. She had just begun to open up about the pressures from her family in that same car ride back from Shimla when she cited "Baba ke questions" as one of the main causes for her anxiety. Expressing that her family was not totally perfect, that they too put a lot of pressure on her, was a big step for Sona in the direction of solidarity with the unit of Dev and Sona, but it was only the first step.

Because she kept her relationship with her family hidden from Dev to a large extent, both before and after marriage, Dev had very few glimpses of Sona, the overburdened daughter. Not only did she shoulder the financial responsibility of her family, she was also expected to uphold its pride and values. That is why she was in such a hurry to gain Ishwari's approval: she wanted her relationship with Dev and his family to be one that her family could be proud of; she had to make her baba's compromise worth it. But she never let Dev in on this side of her struggle, and Dev continued to see Sona and her family as people who were above pettiness and pride.

That is why he was shocked to find them reacting the way they did to the GKB and Ishwari's accusations of theft. Unlike his family, who he knew were loud, dramatic, and clueless about business, he thought the Boses would handle this calmly, being educated and aware that an investment was not charity, nor had he "given" them money. That is why he asked Baba why he was making such a big deal about a simple misunderstanding. He had learned his lesson from the returned car, and tried to find a way to be there for Sona in a way that wouldn't hurt her pride. He didn't expect it to backfire in such an ugly way, nor did he anticipate Bijoy's unadulterated rage; that was something Sona and Asha largely protected him from before. Asha tried to do it again when Dev showed up to apologise after slapgate, but he finally got to see Bijoy in full force.

All in all, Dev ended up feeling like he didn't know the woman he had married at all. She only showed him the side of her that wanted to make their relationship work no matter what, and was willing to do just about anything to gain his mother's approval. She seemed to be a permanent resident of the high road, so when push came to shove, he expected her to remain there and support him through his difficulties, but she pulled the rug out from under his feet with the emotional overreaction to the whole 5-crore fiasco, and a fierce loyalty to her family's pride that defied the promises they had made to each other. She made a similar move during the first break up, when she promsed she would stick with him even if he left her, and the next month, he found her laughing merrily with Ritwick. It was not until their confrontation in the office that Dev understood she still loved him and would drop everything in a second if he were at liberty to be with her. The way she explained it, in his absence, she chose this path to make her parents happy. Again, that is why he was so confident that she would come back to him as soon as he got Ishwari's approval... becasue she said so herself, and he took her at face value.

Sona expected certain things to be givens in their relationship, but as DQ said, Dev had zero EQ and I think things needed to be spelled out to him in the most blunt terms. He did not have the capacity to just pick up on Sona's emotions, and the fact that she had a tendency to keep them under wraps made it all the more difficult for them to communicate. According to her, he had already broken the promise when he lashed out against Bijoy, but according to him, she broke it when she cut off communication and made the decision to pay back the five crores. Problem was that they made promises, but they never made the effort to understand how their interpretations could be vastly different.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@sajini: Wow, beautiful post! 👏 Thanks for patiently taking us through the whole journey to show us the faultlines of Dev and Sona's relationship!

Thanks to everyone who liked the Invisible Ink post!

Just saw the new entry, and I have no issues with more eye candy on the show. It looks like they are following S1 quite literally. Natasha made her entry not long after the accident! So do we get a lovelorn Dev who tries to keep it all inside because he doesn't feel like he deserves Sona/can't compromise his ego once Jatin is in the picture?
Edited by Samanalyse - 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Samanalyse

@sajini: Wow, beautiful post! 👏 Thanks for patiently taking us through the whole journey to show us the faultlines of Dev and Sona's relationship!

Thanks to everyone who liked the Invisible Ink post!

Just saw the new entry, and I have no issues with more eye candy on the show. It looks like they are following S1 quite literally. Natasha made her entry not long after the accident! So do we get a lovelorn Dev who tries to keep it all inside because he doesn't feel like he deserves Sona/can't compromise his ego once Jatin is in the picture?



@Sam.. ty so much... and pls take a bow for your invisible ink analogy.. its so beautiful.. i nearly read it more than twice... 🤗

I guess u r right when it comes to the new entry.. they have a pattern.. quite much like it...
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Originally posted by: Agrata23

take a bow sajini..👏excellent write up😊


Thank you for a patient read.. and that means a lot to me..
wow you guys are really encouraging...and i've always seen u do that for me...ty🤗

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