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Posted: 8 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: Push-pull

Enjoyed reading this post.. 😃

I'm not in favor of Devdas either as a lover or as a character.. So not much to comment on him.. But reading your post I wanted to reply for Dev..

I can't even give the credit of being a complicated character to Dev Dixit 😆. He thinks he's the most complicated but to me he appears to be the most confused guy who doesn't know what he wants from life.. And because he's confused and with an added state of being emotionally weak person, he blames everyone around for his fear of admitting his inabilities.. Because he has no capacity to fix his own confusions and weaknesses it's easy for him to blame the love that he has for everyone as the reason.. 🥱

Totally agree with you there. The reason I brought the comparison is because like Devdas, Dev has to do his own atonement. It should not come from Sonakshi or anyone else. Because it seemed to me Dev has burnt everyone of his credit for good deeds. Just because he is in pain does not justify him inflicting pain on others.

To be honest he's not at all fit for a marriage that too with a girl like Sonakshi.. He should either have been left without a marriage or taken a support from a mistress who can destress him as and when needed.. And if Ishu gets to know about it he can always stop visiting her.. Then after a cooldown period can pick another one or continue with the same as per his wish.

Exactly. I have said it before. The way he is now is what he is suited for. Having affairs outside and taking care of family as needed. Sonakshi and him are incompatible in fundamental level. So they will only end up disappointing each other. Having a child together does not justify two people who should not be together, are forced to be together. Opposite attracts, but they have to be compliments, not substitutes to make it work.

Sonakshi is equally to be blamed in choosing Dev as her love partner.. Her love story needed some Prince charming to which Dev is not at all a suitable candidate.. She overestimated her love for him thinking that he will become the hero of her love story and forgot her role of being the saviour to his pitiful state.. Instead of being there for him like a mistress to release his mental tensions he's put through, she behaved like a well-wisher wanting him to de-stress on his own.. All he wanted was someone all for himself whom he can drop off just like that if his line of gratitude deserving people asks him to... Too bad that Sonakshi didn't fit that bill of his.. She's too hyper for him.. 😆

I agree with you. Sonakshi was those impractical woman who was in love with the idea of love. She wanted a love story just like every woman. But she, like some women, thought just love is enough. But as we saw, love is not enough. It's the most important element in a happy marriage, but it is not the only one. Without respect, honour and dignity, a marriage becomes a shell which even makes eternal love hollow and shallow over time.

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Posted: 8 years ago
#42
Awesome post on Devdas Tia.👍🏼
I think he is Dev Dixit not Dev das since I dont see anytime he is going to be doomed soon. He is tryng to be happy and flirting...he is a casanova...😆..Golu's BigCha...😔
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Posted: 8 years ago
#43
Excellent writing. I commented in your post.

Originally posted by: dreamy.tiara

Excellent write-up Tia di... Agree to each and every word you have written.👍🏼

There is certainly a lot of parallel between Dev and Devdas, his impulsiveness. I could completely relate to your post.


Except, this is a Hindi show, so there is a good chance of happily ever after😆


I don't know whether you had peeped in or not, but I wrote it in a post (please have a look if interested, https://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4793157); Sometimes I also draw similarities between Dev and Sultan Schahriar; the just and kind king of The Arabian Nights, who lost faith in love and turned cruel after his wife's betrayal (that's how The Arabian Nights starts. Also, Sona's betrayal is only in Dev's head; poor girl was manipulated by his wicked relatives).


PS: BTW, I too am a Bengali (who I grew up in Delhi), and I have read Sarat Chandra Chatterjee's Devdas in Bengali 😊


Once again, amazing post!

- Tia

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: tia.o



Totally agree with you there. The reason I brought the comparison is because like Devdas, Dev has to do his own atonement. It should not come from Sonakshi or anyone else. Because it seemed to me Dev has burnt everyone of his credit for good deeds. Just because he is in pain does not justify him inflicting pain on others.

Exactly. I have said it before. The way he is now is what he is suited for. Having affairs outside and taking care of family as needed. Sonakshi and him are incompatible in fundamental level. So they will only end up disappointing each other. Having a child together does not justify two people who should not be together, are forced to be together. Opposite attracts, but they have to be compliments, not substitutes to make it work.


I agree with you. Sonakshi was those impractical woman who was in love with the idea of love. She wanted a love story just like every woman. But she, like some women, thought just love is enough. But as we saw, love is not enough. It's the most important element in a happy marriage, but it is not the only one. Without respect, honour and dignity, a marriage becomes a shell which even makes eternal love hollow and shallow over time.

Dev doing amendments for his mistakes? Are you kidding? The CVs have a line of justification for his mistakes and will come up with thousands of reasons for keeping him sympathized.. 😉 And have many reasons for Sonakshi to be expected to be understanding which she failed to.. 😆

Yes, having a child doesn't need them to be brought together as a couple.. If they can make a new cordial connect with each other as the parents to their child that should be good enough for the kid.. If not for themselves at least they should think beyond themselves for the kid's sake.. And Soha is a reasonable kid whose upbringing is doing wonderful on her.. Her self-confidence and self-contained nature can do wonders on her without being emotionally ridden by the elders.. She can get wonderful friends in her parents while making new friends for herself too.. 😃

Exactly.. Now that Dev-Sona understood that marriage is just not about love and sacrifice.. If the seven years have done anything good for them then it must be their ability to live without each other.. And without even knowing whether the other person is alive or not. If they can form a new friendship with respect and understanding that would do good by their identity as individuals without trying to impress and bend for everything related to them.. That's why friendship in husband and wife makes the bond stronger and honourable.. Friends never fail to give respect to each other's space..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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On a serious note, I personally never liked Devdas. Could never understand the glorification of love as per Devdas standards. Though people of this breed do exist but I prefer to stay away.
Devdas expected Paro to be there always for him...unconditionally...irrespective of how he treats her...irrespective of anything else. What he failed to understand that that kind of love also needs reciprocation. The kind of exclusive rights in love you demand, you need to provide as well.

Dev das tried to redeem himself by destroying his own self. I believe he didnot understand love until his death but yes, he tried to love in his own weird way...though the most impractical thing to do. Yet, it still remains he loved and died for his love...however convoluted it may be.

I dont admire anything about such love..my opinion though...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Push-pull

Dev doing amendments for his mistakes? Are you kidding? The CVs have a line of justification for his mistakes and will come up with thousands of reasons for keeping him sympathized.. 😉 And have many reasons for Sonakshi to be expected to be understanding which she failed to.. 😆

Yes, having a child doesn't need them to be brought together as a couple.. If they can make a new cordial connect with each other as the parents to their child that should be good enough for the kid.. If not for themselves at least they should think beyond themselves for the kid's sake.. And Soha is a reasonable kid whose upbringing is doing wonderful on her.. Her self-confidence and self-contained nature can do wonders on her without being emotionally ridden by the elders.. She can get wonderful friends in her parents while making new friends for herself too.. 😃

Exactly.. Now that Dev-Sona understood that marriage is just not about love and sacrifice.. If the seven years have done anything good for them then it must be their ability to live without each other.. And without even knowing whether the other person is alive or not. If they can form a new friendship with respect and understanding that would do good by their identity as individuals without trying to impress and bend for everything related to them.. That's why friendship in husband and wife makes the bond stronger and honourable.. Friends never fail to give respect to each other's space..


I have a one-liner here. Rem Shurti's dialogue.
Only Sona can calm down Dev. Hence she is his need. So, they will come back together bcoz Dev needs her...weird but its going to be true. Well, Season-1 started with their friendship and see what happened.😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: gaurimisha


I have a one-liner here. Rem Shurti's dialogue.
Only Sona can calm down Dev. Hence she is his need. So, they will come back together bcoz Dev needs her...weird but its going to be true. Well, Season-1 started with their friendship and see what happened.😆

But they never continued their friendship after marriage.. If there was any friendship between them it wasn't much though.. Sona acted like an advisor to Dev before Dev's proposal and like love stuck puppy after the proposal and like a secret affair after marriage.. 😆 Dev was comfortably not willing to make any changes to maintain a healthy friendship too with her..
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Posted: 8 years ago
#48
Agreed on all points. I believe in the same.

Love in its rosy phase seems indestructible. But the real test of love remains in the strength to face the world together.

That's why friendship is so important in a strong relationship. When your spouse is your friend, you can easily talk about your feelings, complaint if their attitude is hurting you, expect them to stand up for you, make demands to share their feelings with you with full right and never think that by exercising your rights or demanding your place, you are reducing your love because friendship gives you that right.

Sonakshi and Dev forgot to be friends once they got married. They let silences fill their communication, excuses and awkwardness fill their conversations and lies fill their true feelings.

That's why they didn't last.

And until they acknowledge that, even if they come together for Soha, they still won't last.

I believe that when you love someone, you live. Because it's easier to choose death, but when you live, you honour that love which gave you strength to choose a much tougher path.

And yes, Devdas always took Paro for granted. But the right he thought he had, wasn't his to take. It was Paro's to give and to take it away when he failed her.

Same situation applies to Dev. That's why I said that love is precious. People who love and get love in return are happiest and luckiest people on Earth. But people who take that love for granted and lose it, they are the most unfortunate people in the world.


Originally posted by: gaurimisha

On a serious note, I personally never liked Devdas. Could never understand the glorification of love as per Devdas standards. Though people of this breed do exist but I prefer to stay away.

Devdas expected Paro to be there always for him...unconditionally...irrespective of how he treats her...irrespective of anything else. What he failed to understand that that kind of love also needs reciprocation. The kind of exclusive rights in love you demand, you need to provide as well.

Dev das tried to redeem himself by destroying his own self. I believe he didnot understand love until his death but yes, he tried to love in his own weird way...though the most impractical thing to do. Yet, it still remains he loved and died for his love...however convoluted it may be.

I dont admire anything about such love..my opinion though...

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Posted: 8 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: tia.o

Excellent writing. I commented in your post.



Thank you Di. Replied in the thread 😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Awesome Tia and everyone else. Loved your discussions and every bit on this thread. Hats off to you tia for excellent analogy and how you put your thoughts through so crystal clear, true and rational in every sense.
Edited by fandw - 8 years ago

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