Dev & Devdas!!! - Page 3

Originally posted by: tia.o

Thanks Doc. I didn't know you are also a Bong. Guddi (Pehchaan Kaun) is Bong too. Bong connection. 🤗

Yes, I totally understand what you are saying. Because of Devdas's many weaknesses, I also didn't like the story when I read it the first time as a young girl. I kept thinking what kind of hero is this? Why am I reading the story of a loser?

My favourite story was "Chandranath". Do you remember that one? Simply because Chandranath married his wife without knowing who she was and what was her past. When he found out her past, the wife left him. She was pregnant then. He regretted not stopping her and kept looking for her. He didn't marry nor he went astray. Once day he found her and the son he never knew and he asked them to come back because he still and only loved her. I found that lot more romantic and respectable leads.

Not to mention, both husband and wife acknowledged their mistakes (hers for hiding her past and his for letting such a trivial thing to matter more than his love) which for me was more fair and respectful way to fix problems.

Even though the story of Devdas was in Devdas's name and the story was essentially about him, I found more respect for Paro and Chandramukhi. Simply because they had the courage to love, go after that love and also continue on when they didn't get that love.

In comparison Devdas seemed to me someone who always wanted what he had lost and never took care of what he had in the present.

I personally believe living in the present and plan for the future. I don't believe in looking back and waste my time moaning over past. My belief is that people who keep looking back, never live in the present and never move forward. So Devdas didn't resonate with me as a young girl reading the book.

But as I grew up and read them again, like you, I saw the layers in the character. I still couldn't respect the character, I still don't. But I understood him and forgave him.

Because he is human and humans make mistakes. He lived his punishment, may be a harsher one than he should have got and he realized his mistakes.

His punishment didn't come from anyone else, but he did his own penance.

You can't hold anger and hatred for him after that.

If Dev had acknowledged his mistakes and had taken accountability for his actions, I would have been able to forgive him as would Sonakshi.

But it's hard to forgive jerks and that's how Dev is behaving these days.

And as I said and you also mentioned, Dev has to be completely destroyed to atone for his mistakes and to be forgiven but the destruction has to come from him because atonement should come from within.

Originally posted by: deepsel

Wow I really liked this post Tia ⭐️ Your comparison seems to be very apt, now that I think of Devdas!! After friday's precap Dev's struggle to overcome his split personality can definitely be viewed as self - destructuion. Thanks for this interesting perspective !!

Originally posted by: siddhi.d123

Beautiful post 👏 I have not read the book but have watched the movie and I think it's one of the best work of Bhansali till date.This days it's really hard to root for Devakshi seeing drastic changes in Dev's character and knowing Devakshi is the end game.But I m pretty sure the CV's will turn the tables and turn Dev into some Mahaan and selfless lover who has been alone loving Sona all this time Indian Tv shows .Dev has always portrayed to have self destructive behavior now he just masks it behind his ' I don't give a damn attitude '.Well you have increased my interest in the book will surely read it 😊

Originally posted by: mily_mathew

Hi Tia,

Loved your writeup,but after everyhting I cant agree to the fact that Dev has sinned.

About Dev being a casanova,well its his life,his choice.Hes trying to move on.I dont think hes wronging Sonakshi here.

He has the Sonas word in front of him -"Woh pyaar aapke zindagi main kabhi vaapas nahi aeega."

Also whatever happened to Sonakshi during marriage and on the seperation day-was Ish's,GKB,Neha and Vickis fault.

Dev's fault here was being spineless and trying to make everyone hapy,and Sonas fault yes I wont say she's totally blameless,her incredulous "good ness to not deserving people".

I had more problems with Sona than Dev in the preleap episodes.

Dev fault was that he never could be harsh on his mother,but Sonakshi willingly gave a lot of importance to Ish in the whole pregnancy thing and their life in general."yaah i understand she was carried away with Ish's suffocating love"Wonder is it some kind of love potion which makes u want more once u have it.

She gave the same treatment to Neha and GKB.They had to be shown their place.It came to such an extent that I used to cringe when Sona uttered her goody goody dialogues which was consumed with love for all these useless people.

I for one love the Sona post leap.Shes smart,beautiful,successful and has a certain zing towards her which is very appealing.

Dev's intentions were always good.He wanted to help Sonas family.

But his blind moms love made him say harsh things to Sona. But seeing the recent episodes I feel he has finally understood Ish for what she is,and he kind of understands his role in the whole seperation yet not acknowledging.That mug breaking scene was significant for that.

But I still want Dev Sona together coz i can see Dev's love even with all his shortcomings and dont want him to live alone,which is what people like GKB and Vicky who consider him as an ATM want.

And yes if anyone has to atone for their sins,its Ish.

She is a failure as a mother who only wants to stay in the bubble of devotion from her son.

The reason she despises Sona is not because Sona can hurt Dev,coz she knows its Sona only who affects Dev more than her.

She cant stand so much importance for anyone in Dev's life.

Originally posted by: Kaustuv

Hi Tia

Thanks for detailed analysis , Devdas story is quite depressing. I would not look forward to watching it if it moves towards that. I had watched SRK version of devdas n was depressed for the state and of SRK at the end. I know some people do end up like that but would not want to watch it in tv. Plus I signed up for mature love story, cv can do whatever twist they want but not tragedy .

My opinion ur welcome to defer

Originally posted by: tia.o

Oh, I am not blaming Dev for being a Casanova. He was a single guy. He can do whatever.

But saying all blames lies on Ishwari, Vicky, Radha and Neha is definitely not right.

When a woman gets married and comes to her husband's house, it's the husband's responsibility to stand up for her respect and dignity in his household. Dev never did that for her.

Sonakshi won't have bend over backwards to please Ishwari, if Dev hadn't did that. How a woman's relationship with her in-laws will be depends on the husband and how a relationship in-laws will have the new daughter-in-law also depends on the husband because he is the one who is connecting the two.

Dev, by his attitude, gave indication that his happiness lies with Ishwari's happiness and approval. So Sonakshi made efforts to get the same kind of comfort level with the woman he worshipped.

But Dev knew how Ishwari was treating Sonakshi and how much effort Sonakshi was putting in this, why didn't he say anything then?

Dev took Sonakshi's love for granted over and over.

Yet when Sonakshi needed him to stand up for her and understand what she was going through, he again pressurized Sonakshi to go through fertility treatment because then she was no more enough for him as he claimed the night before, because his Goddess said so.

Ishwari, Radha, Vicky, Neha could break their marriage because Dev handed them the weapon by letting them control his relationship with his wife.

Sonakshi went with the flow Dev had set and boy, the sacrifices that girl made were so many.

And what Dev do? Throw all of them in her face because she didn't want to be his optional choice again AFTER he found out that his mother had betrayed him and she again gave HER PERMISSION to live separately. Who will be a man's afterthought twice? Why would she again put her life and future on Ishwari's whim again for a man who has no free will and not even capable of keeping his promises?

Sorry, I beg to differ. I don't blame Ishwari, Radha, Vicky or Neha as much because they never claimed to love Sonakshi or want her in their life.

Dev claimed to love Sonakshi and never stood by her. Sonakshi was also at fault for not recognizing that you just can't please everyone and at sometimes you will just have to cut your losses which she did in the end. But if anyone was to blame for the lion's share for the break up, it was Dev.

And I don't know where you saw that he realized his part in the break up. I haven't seen it in anywhere in his attitude or statement yet. If anything, as usual like Ishwari, he is blaming Sonakshi as convenient scapegoat again.

I will be only okay with Sonakshi being back with Dev if a. he realizes his mistakes and redeems himself (long redemption track) and b. he finds out that Sonakshi had same affairs like he did (much more discreet ones of course) and still without question or judgement, he is willing to be with her. Otherwise no way.

Originally posted by: mily_mathew

Tia,I never said Dev is not guilty.I just said Sona also made her share of mistakes.I felt she was too accomodating.There were instances when Dev herself told her not to do certain things like the fast and all.

Ishwari was coming in their relationship thru both Dev and Ishwari.

There was a scene where Dev berated Neha,what Sona does in the next instant is try to pacify the already fuming Neha and she got told off.

She need not come in that equation.I think Sona went a little ahead for acceptance.Its not only because Dev's happiness was Ishwari.

There were lot of places where she intervened and was uncalled for.

If u say that was because of her love for Dev then what Dev did for Saurabh was for his love for Sona's family.

If u remove Ish from the equation from this their life would never have been pathetic.

They both prioritized Ish in thier life,thats when their married life went kaput.

Tell me Tia,would u say this abt ur mother in law "Main unko bacha dena chahti huun".

Wasnt it highly selfish of Sona to bring a child into their equation to smoothen their complicated bond.

Their current status quo is a consequence of all this.

Saying all this Im not a Dev fan,I for one was happy when Sona left that house and him.Sometimes u need a big blow to knock sense into thick head.

And I think 7 years has done that for him.The ish-parda has been removed.

Halleluiah for that

Dev will understand his mistakes,there is no way out for the makers.Its only a matter of time.

All this idiosyncracies of Dev is to just prolong the series.

But even if Sona comes back into his life,I dont want her to be miss goody-goody.

But i feel he should not be punished( I mean by Keeping Sona away from him forever) so much coz his mistakes are more of blunders and not sins.

And I have seen his love for her.And I think its the best.

Love is never wrong,Its people who are.